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SCOTUS Re: Obama....Live Thread

Posted on 12/05/2008 6:33:15 AM PST by maineman

I thought we should have a link to post any and all updates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho; birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; donofrio; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; odinga; scotus
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To: baa39
“That is not Defronio’s rationale. The mother’s American citizenship “does not mitigate” the father’s status as British subject and citizen, regardless of birthplace. One possible interpretation is that neither parent can have a loyalty to any other foreign nation, and that is what makes Obama not a citizen.”

You mean “that is what makes Obama not a “natural born” citizen. Obama IS a citizen if he was born on US soil, ie Hawaii. He is NOT “natural born” because his father was not a US citizen and his mother, thought a citizen, did not meet the age requirement to transfer her citizenship. And Obama’s father being a British subject at the time of Obama’s birth makes Obama a British subject at birth.

421 posted on 12/05/2008 11:10:35 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: DJ MacWoW
"I believe 38 states would have to agree so I don't see that happening."

I don't think whether they get it done is necessarily the goal...the goal is to have the topic of discussion be the validity of the Constitution as it is written for the next however many years to make an easier way for future changes. If they were able to do it now I'm sure that would just be a bonus for the patient "progressive" commies. Seriously, I don't think the party elites give a care at all which puppet they have in the oval office.

422 posted on 12/05/2008 11:10:44 AM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Doesn’t a certain number of states have to agree to change the Constitution?

Three-fourths - 38 states.

423 posted on 12/05/2008 11:11:38 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (NO Usurpers in the White House - NObama)
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To: mnehrling

It’s worse than I thought...


424 posted on 12/05/2008 11:12:57 AM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: mnehrling

I don’t think it would be that easy. If it was, it would have quietly been done already.


425 posted on 12/05/2008 11:13:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Kevmo

Bill and Hillary are corrupt, evil and very smart. They make sport out of destroying people.

If Obama were born in Kenya, the Clintons having the resources to find proof would have done so. Those two do not take prisoners.

And if he were not born in Hawaii, Sarah Palin, being very intelligent would have discovered that fact and brought it to everyone’s attention during the campaign.


426 posted on 12/05/2008 11:14:23 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Sola Veritas; montesquiue; flaglady47; Newtiebacker; GBA; so_real; Publius Valerius; ZekeNY; ...

“We know. The court DID NOT grant certiorari in the Obama case."

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/orders-12-5-08.pdf

NOTE: That link is to a BLOG. It is NOT the SCOTUS's website. That BLOG has had NO mention of the Donofrio case this ENTIRE time.

The orders won't be published until AFTER 4 pm EST today.


427 posted on 12/05/2008 11:14:49 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: seekthetruth
I believe the MSM, DNC, and yes, the RNC were all silent on the issue because they knew both Obama and McCain did not Constitutionally qualify to hold the Office of President.

I ask you, what are the chances that for the first time in US history, not one, but <i>both</i> candidates for the major political parties have issues surrounding their status as a "natural born" citizen?

I see it as further evidence that elections in America are a farce decided well before any "votes" are taken.

428 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:20 AM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: All
YOU, can call those unqualified per the Constitution, 'second class citizens,' until you are blue in the face, yet unqualified they remain.

I am growing increasingly disgusted with the frantic nonsense of Freepers who are willing to adopt the left's vile 'living Constitution' approach in order to justify ridiculous claims against Obama's legitimacy as president.

'Natural born citizen' means what it says, and it says nothing about allegiance. You people keep your dishonest emanations and penumbras to yourself.

429 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:21 AM PST by Sloth (I am the governed, and I hereby withhold my consent.)
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To: Earthdweller
Seriously, I don't think the party elites give a care at all which puppet they have in the oval office.

I certainly agree with that.

430 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:21 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Godsgirl

That is what they use to ask the Supreme court to hear a case. If it is granted, then the court will review the case, if it is not granted, as in this instance, than the lower court’s ruling stands. The lower court threw the case out, so the case is effectively dead.


431 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:24 AM PST by flyfree
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To: jcsjcm

Agreed. The birth certificate is interesting, but only the tip of the iceberg. And Obama claimed he’d make government “transparent” ...


432 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:50 AM PST by so_real
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Thanks!


433 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:50 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: couchpotatoxxx12

Not surprised.


434 posted on 12/05/2008 11:16:13 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Don't trust any politician who tells you that their religion doesn't affect their policies...)
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To: BP2

Thanks, BP2. Waiting and watching here. :)


435 posted on 12/05/2008 11:16:21 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: Godsgirl; BP2
No.

I would like to ask the 'assembled legal minds' to answer something for me, please? ...

Does a case being taken to conference ever get dealt with by issuing a remand with stipulation and not being put on the docket for cert?

436 posted on 12/05/2008 11:16:43 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: trumandogz

Clintons having the resources to find proof would have done so.
***Same assumption. An invalid argument from silence. Freepers and conservatives have plenty of resources and yet none of us can get to the proof. The Clintons don’t have a magic wand, regardless of your vivid imagination.


437 posted on 12/05/2008 11:16:46 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Gov Richardson saying Obama was an immigrant. In Spanish.

Wonder if that's why he got the nod for Commerce Secretary and not Secretary of State, even with backing Obama over Hillary.

When was the comment made? Cannot access Youtube from here.

438 posted on 12/05/2008 11:16:51 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: couchpotatoxxx12

IT IS NOT OVER! Unless we hear it from Leo, it is not over. The answer concerning Leo’s case may not be posted until Monday. Remember, No news is often good news!”


439 posted on 12/05/2008 11:17:17 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: BP2

I pray you are right


440 posted on 12/05/2008 11:17:38 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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