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Obama's Birth Announcement
The Schnitt Show (www.schnittshow.com) ^ | 12/4/08 | Unknown

Posted on 12/04/2008 8:37:05 PM PST by Red Reign

According to The Schnitt Show, a radio program available in several Florida markets and XM radio, a birth announcement for Barack Obama was discovered in a 1961 Honolulu newspaper. See link for a PDF image of this announcement.


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To: Rome2000
Maybe Todd Schnitthead can tell us what hospital zero was born in.

According to wikipedia (always reliable, right?) Obama was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu.

Here are the link to the sources used in the wiki article:

1) Though Obama Had to Leave to Find Himself, It Is Hawaii That Made His Rise Possible.

2) Punahou grad stirs up Illinois politics

Back in 1961 why would anyone have cared to fake where Obama had been born and obfuscate his citizenship status?

161 posted on 12/05/2008 12:39:24 AM PST by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: Nipfan
That’s assuming its even genuine, and there is a high probability that it isn’t.

And you are a certified expert?

162 posted on 12/05/2008 12:41:44 AM PST by XR7
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To: ksen

Why would hundreds of thousands of Mexicans illegally cross the border?

There are a lot of benefits to being an American citizen and Obama’s mother and/or grandparents may well have taken steps to secure his citizenship.


163 posted on 12/05/2008 12:43:07 AM PST by Sharrukin
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To: ksen
Back in 1961 why would anyone have cared to fake where Obama had been born and obfuscate his citizenship status?

Because over four decades ago, the Illuminati planners and members of the Rothchild family, as well as higher ups in the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, most of them 33rd degree Masons or higher, examined their astral charts and discovered that at the same time a planned worldwide banking collapse would take place, a false messiah, a black messiah, beholden to them, would arise to establish a one world order. They annointed this particular child to be their chosen One in their diabolical scheme to establish the New World Order.

164 posted on 12/05/2008 12:47:54 AM PST by XR7
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To: Red Reign

Has been around for months and months. I believe we all accept the fact that Obama was born.

Doesn’t say where.

By the way, does anybody have evidence that there was such a thing as “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama?”

The wedding had no witnesses, not even her parents, and no record of the event has yet been found. The only evidence that suggests a February, 1961 date for the wedding was a document included in Ann Dunham’s 1964 divorce proceedings against Obama Senior.

Obama, himself, hints that his father and mother’s wedding may not have been properly documented. “How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I have never quite had the courage to explore,” Obama writes in his memoir.

Michelle obama was quoted as saying Obama’s mother was “very young and very single when she had him.”

There is no evidence anywhere that Senior and Anna ever lived together anywhere, at any time. The living arrangements between the announcement of the wedding and the birth of the child were uncertain. Most likely, Obama Senior remained in his dorm room while Ann lived with her parents.

But, then again, there is no Obama documentation, beyond that in his books, and even Obama admits they are part myth.


165 posted on 12/05/2008 3:11:43 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: XR7

There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion ... to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic.

Where have you been, on the moon?


166 posted on 12/05/2008 3:13:54 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Nipfan

Yawn.

Heard that one before...

I’m not going to argue about something that is asinine on its face.

Have fun in the fever swamp.


167 posted on 12/05/2008 3:36:31 AM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: iowamark
Donofrio is contending that Zero was born in Hawaii (he is not trying to prove that wrong, just accepting that is true). His argument is that he is not a Natural Born citizen due to his father being Kenyan. Kenya was a British colony at that time, and British law conferred citizenship through the father, which would make Zero a British citizen. And in Zero's book and on his web site, he states himself that he was born a British citizen. So even IF he was born in Hawaii, he was still a British citizen at birth, which makes him ineligible.

That is Donofrio's case. It seems to be a pretty good argument.

168 posted on 12/05/2008 4:14:53 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

“That is Donofrio’s case. It seems to be a pretty good argument.”

Would making this case involve viewing his birth certificate, though? Because I think that would probably clarify the issue instantly, without need for complex argument.


169 posted on 12/05/2008 4:28:25 AM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: Scarchin

Thank you for proving my point.


170 posted on 12/05/2008 4:28:46 AM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: Wil H
Have you now got it?

Get over yourself. It's a phony ass certificate. Unless there is a physician named and/or an attending nurse or other witness, the alleged birth cannot be verified. I don't care who issued it or what low bar you of proof you require. I call it phony.

171 posted on 12/05/2008 4:32:05 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Nipfan
Would making this case involve viewing his birth certificate, though? Because I think that would probably clarify the issue instantly, without need for complex argument.

No, that isn't in his argument. He's circumventing that aspect. Enough other suits are including that. With his argument, the Natural Born aspect due to British citizenship at birth, should be enough to prove ineligibility.

172 posted on 12/05/2008 4:43:23 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: FTJM

I think that’s what I was trying to say or get the other poster to say it. You said it best.


173 posted on 12/05/2008 5:07:33 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: YellowRoseofTx

I am not a lawyer but I don’t see it as a good argument at all. Someone born in the US to an American mother is certainly a natural born citizen, regardless of who the father was. Even if he was born in the US to two foreign national parents, he would be a natural born citizen, just as Éamon de Valera.


174 posted on 12/05/2008 5:16:10 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Red Reign

Wouldn’t really make much difference... when my kiddos were born, I posted a birth announcement in 3 different cities. My hometown, the town I was currently living in and the town my parents were residing in at the time.


175 posted on 12/05/2008 6:16:48 AM PST by Faux_Pas (When I die, I want to be buried in St. Martin Parish so I can remain politically active. ~E.K.Long)
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To: Vendome
So what, you gonna toss this in with his Title 9 entitlement to obtain the position...

Title 8 has nothing to do with Title 9 and has nothing to do with race. Title 8 defines citizenship and clarifies what is a natural born citizen versus a naturalized citizen and the requirements of both. (Authorized under Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution authorizing Congress to define citizenship standards)

176 posted on 12/05/2008 6:32:41 AM PST by mnehring
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To: tomkat; et al

I’m fairly new to FR so I had not yet seen this aspect of the story. Thanks to all you FReepers for getting me up to speed.


177 posted on 12/05/2008 7:05:41 AM PST by Red Reign (It will start in Alaska, and the Red Reign will sweep our nation.)
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To: RGSpincich
Get over yourself. It's a phony ass certificate. Unless there is a physician named and/or an attending nurse or other witness, the alleged birth cannot be verified. I don't care who issued it or what low bar you of proof you require. I call it phony..

OK, you obviously don't get it.

We are talking about two different documents.

The one posted on the web is phony, I agree, it's a forgery of a short form certificate.

The other one, the one authenticated by the State, is the original, typed on paper, registration which will be a long form with boxes for all the signatures that you require.

What we don't know is what is on that certificate, however it is authentic, not phony.

Let's suppose he WAS born in Kenya. The long form would state that in the correct box and the certificate would be perfectly legal and accurate but it would disqualify him from being President under the law in force in 1961.

There is enough actual fraud surrounding the 0bama camp without muddying the waters with calling legal, original, documents "phony".

178 posted on 12/05/2008 7:36:45 AM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: Wil H
We are pretty much in agreement that the birth announcement or announcements (not sure whether there were announcements in one or both newspapers) shed no light on where the birth accurred.
179 posted on 12/05/2008 7:39:28 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: XR7
I don't know why in the world you sent me that piece by Amy Hollyfield from PolitiFact.com. What credentials does she carry? What reputation does she have for objectivity? As far as I know, she's never been anything but a leftist MSM acolyte for the St. Petersberg Times.

Useful idiots like her love to tell us to have faith in government. Well, anyone who has ever dealt with government knows that it makes an awful lot of goofs, and even releases disinformation by design on occasion.

In this piece she tries to obfuscate the obvious fact that Barack Obama has never presented a bona fide birth certificate to the American public. I will repeat: A Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" is not a Hawaii Birth Certificate!

FReeper Ron Polarik has put out a scientific paper on the 'Net which specifically rebuts Politifact.com and other pro-Obama web sites by proving that the COLB displayed by them is a forgery. He carries a heck of a lot more profesional credentials in this area than the likes of Amy Hollyfield.

180 posted on 12/05/2008 8:13:58 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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