Beware Birth Certificate Hopefuls - You are in for quite a suprise (vanity)

[Scythian]

This birth certificate issue has been going on for some time now and for those hoping for some kind of dramatic outcome you are in for another big disappointment.

First, there is always the chance that there is a valid birth certificate proving Obama to be a US citizen.

Second, enough time has passed such that the Obama cult has manufactured and installed a phony certificate that will re-route us back up to option 1 above, he will have a valid certificate. Who do you think works in these kinds of government offices? They're all democrats.

Third, no court is going to force Obama to prove himself to be a citizen, the burden is on those making the accusation that he is not a citizen. A criminal doesn't have to prove he didn't commit a crime, the state has to prove that he did.

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Flame on, and sorry for the Vanity, but this is driving me nutz, this issue gets my hopes up but then common sense dashes my hope on the rocks, and this now is a daily occurrence. You are going to find a valid certificate at the end of this road if you are lucky enough to get a judge to demand it, and that is very unlikely, whether the certificate be real or phony it won't matter, and will never be able to proven either way.

[texas12joe]

it will have been for nothing, sorry.

if SCOTUS punts, it means we wasted effort chasing this instead of focussing on BHO;s nominees and bailout plans.

[texas12joe]

i agree with Scythian

there is no court that will a US Congressman, US Senator or Us President to prove his/her citizenship.

That work is left to FEC, Parties and the State Govts that certify deaths and births.

so if DEMs say he is, Hawaii say he is, i dont see an issue.

for me the issue is a “clear clarification of the NBC” issue. if SCOTUS punts, it means Obama is NBC.

[Helen]

I think we are getting ready to find out about that one.

[Centurion2000]

***But this candidate won the election. It’s an old fashioned showdown.

The Electoral College meets December 15th. This election is not over until January 6th when the votes are counted. Obama is not President-Elect yet except in the eyes of the media.

[oldfart]

I think it far more likely that his grandmother in Kenya will have an unfortunate accident.

Nonetheless, I think the fix is in and we’re going to have to watch him swear to uphold the Constitution he’s trampling on. We certainly do live in interesting times.

[Centurion2000]

im innocent until proven guilty.

until proven fradulent, the burden to prove he is is not on BHO, but on the “BC movement”.

That's only for criminal cases. Ever tried to get a job without supporting documentation?

[MHGinTN]

So brilliant an observation, it bears repeating! ...

I don’t think the founders ever envisioned that a man so bereft of honor would make it to the Presidency.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

The problem with that scenario, is that even if it were true, it has no bearing.

Was his mother a Natural Born American?

If yes, then Barack Obama is a Natural Born American.

The Founders addressed this back in 1790, a year after the Constitution was adopted, and a year before the Bill of Rights was approved.

[RobRoy]

Trying to get the court to listen to arguments that Obama must prove citizenship is like trying to get a court to listen to arguments that the tax code clearly does not contain language that I have to pay income tax on wages.

Both cases may have merit, but if either of these cases were to actually win, it would seriously damage our country within weeks. So judges throw out the case before it is heard with a remark like, “everybody has to pay taxes” or “Everybody knows Obama is a citizen”.

Next case...

[MHGinTN]

Congress cannot void the Constitution without specific steps. But that was yet another nice try to get your obamanoid kneepads into the game, dumb, but you keep trying.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

But since ‘natural-born’ status is determined by the fathers nationality at the time of birth where he was born is meaningless if Obama, Sr. is really his father.

That is false. If either parent is a Natural Born citizen, then the child is a Natural Born citizen.

[B4Ranch]

NO FOOTPRINTS, NO TRAIL

Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints — none! There is no Obama documentation — no records — no paper trail — none — this is no accident. It is being done on purpose with Media help - but to serve whom? and why?

MISSING-HIDDEN DOCUMENTS:
Original, vault copy of Certificate of Live Birth in the USA — Not Released
(1 version hidden in Hawaii, Original found in Kenya)
Certificate of Live Birth — Released – Proven Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released – Proven Counterfeit
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, not signed)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None (Locked up to prohibit public view)
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
(All other Illinois state senators’ records are intact)
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

WHY DON’T WE SEE ONE WORD OF THIS IN ANY OF THE MEDIA?

[MHGinTN]

McCain doesn’t qualify according to the standards either. Sorry.

[Kevmo]

Ex Post Facto refers to criminal law, making something a crime that wasn’t
***Then it would not be allowed here, because zer0bama committed fraud.

[RetroSexual]

once obama is inagurated, it does not matter, all LAWS and DEEDS he signs are valid. thats just how it is.

I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I don't think you're right about that. I think that if he turns out being illegitimate then his acts are null and void as well.

But it's not really important. All that's needed is the suspicion of illegitimacy for him to be challenged in court. Someone's almost certain to do that, and if so he'll need to respond or large portions of the population (like the military) will reject his authority.

I think you can bank on it.

[MHGinTN]

And again, soemthing so profoundly true it bears repeating also:

"... they never envisioned a free press that would so loathe this nation that it would sell it’s own soul to make sure an unqualified man like this would be elected."

[Kevmo]

Basically she did not do her job, which is why I believe this case has a solid chance of being heard.
***That means we need a pile of other state lawsuits from other states saying the same thing.

[Citizen Blade]

A defendant charged with violating a law signed into effect by President Barrack Obama would use as a defense that the law is invalid since Barrack Obama is not legitimately the president.

Such a defense would get laughed out of court, unless the defendant could provide some evidence for his claim.

The defendant then has the constitution right to demand the evidence supporting Barrack Obama's legitimacy be provided to the defendant for forensic review.

No, he wouldn't. The defendant couldn't go on a fishing expedition for evidence- he would have to show evidence of his claim before any court would let him do anything.

[MHGinTN]

You’re an idiot, obamanoid n00b.

[Citizen Blade]

If that person is telling the truth about contacting those hospitals and what they said.

That person is lying. Hospitals will not give out information about patients, even to just confirm that someone was a patient there. Giving out such information would violate state and federal privacy laws.