Is the Man of Sin Revealed (and is it 0bama?)

Five Doves ^ | 2 December 2008 | John Tng

[mkjessup]

Ted Porter was insightful regarding Rev 13:18 -- the 666 scripture (see link). Ted wrote:

Why does this verse specify that “him that hath understanding” is required to count the number of the beast? Why does it say “Here is wisdom”? Why can’t just anyone count the name of the beast? Why can’t we just have a computer take names and find out which ones equal 666?"

Note the requirements to solving the riddle: understanding, wisdom and counting. Ted is right. Pure counting alone seems too easy (the way Ted puts it, it takes zero wisdom). Now this whole business of counting the name of the antichrist has been going on for the past 2,000 years. I am not claiming to have more wisdom than every one else, but I think it is because time is short, and people used the wrong calculator to do the counting!

John Tng (2 Dec 2008)
"Is the Man of Sin Revealed?"

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I sensed that some doves feel we should look for Jesus, not the son of perdition. But we are looking for Jesus alright when we try to count the name of the antichrist (something not prohibited in Scripture; in fact, the Apostle John teased us with these words, "Let him that hath understanding count the number ...."). The arrival of the antichrist should EXCITE us no end because it means Jesus is AT THE DOOR!

Evidence #1

So many things about Obama is marked with the number 666 it is just breathtaking! But we need first to clear the stumbling block that plagued us up until now. Traditionally we resort to the Hebrew and Greek gematria to work out the identity of Mr. 666. Well, it turns out the right gematria to use is English! If you think about it, this is logical because of who the antichrist is. With names like Hussein, Barry, Soetoro and Obama, are we sure we are able to come up with their equivalents in Hebrew and Greek, with no wriggling room for error?

Once you get past this mental block, and begin to apply the English gematria to Obama, the number 666 just pops like popcorn! The abundance of 666 is proof positive that we have found the man. The remarkable thing about these 666 occurrences is that THEY ARE BIBLICAL! The Author of the Word of God planted clues in the Book and posed us a teaser in chapter 13 verse 18 of the book of Revelation. The chapter and verse numbers of the 666 scripture are instructive: 13 is the number of rebellion and 18 is 6+6+6.

The first evidence that floored me is this. Two years ago Paul Black (a friend of Ian Mallett) posted an intriguing article called 'Counting Numbers' (see link). Paul wrote:

There are four references to 666 in the bible, three in the OT, one in the NT. The three OT references are, 1 Kings 10:14 at 9,094, 2 Chronicles 9:13 at 11,378, and Ezra 2:13 at 12,041. The total is 32,513 or 41 x 793.
 
Revelation 13:18 is 30,927, or 39 x 793. All four verses are therefore 80 x 793. This amazingly high common factor is the eleventh figurate hexagram, or star of David, which is made up of twelve triangles of 66, the eleventh triangular number. Notice the Revelation verse has the 3 x 13 again. The total number of letters in the four verses is 216, or 6 x 6 x 6.

What a remarkable discovery! What is so special about the number 793 that it is a common factor in the four 666 scriptures? An unbiased researcher like Paul Black took notice of it. No doubt he was puzzled by its intimate link with the number 666. Is it chance or design? Is there a purpose for its connection with the number of the beast? I believe there is. Observe that it is a factor of 13, the number of rebellion: 793 = 13 x 61. Astonishingly, it is also the standard English gematria value (see below) of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!

Standard English Gematria

A=1	B=2	C=3	D=4	E=5	F=6	G=7	H=8	I=9
J=10	K=20	L=30	M=40	N=50	O=60	P=70	Q=80	R=90
S=100	T=200	U=300	V=400	W=500	X=600	Y=700	Z=800

Barack Hussein Obama =117+572+104=793

B	A	R	A	C	K
2	1	90	1	3	20
H	U	S	S	E	I	N
8	300	100	100	5	9	50
O	B	A	M	A
60	2	1	40	1

The reader may ask:  But I thought the name of the antichrist is supposed to add to 666, not 793? Perhaps this is the reason why we have failed to identify Obama so far. He is hidden in the four 666 scriptures even though his name is not equal to 666. (Shortly I will show his name does add to 666 in more ways than one!) Obama was born Aug 4, 1961. His birthdate is day 216 that year and the number 216 is 6 x 6 x 6! This is also the total number of letters of the four 666 verses! The total number of letters in Obama's name is 18 (6+6+6) -- also the verse number of the 666 scripture in Revelation chapter 13! Ted also discovered that the common English gematria (A=6; B=12; C=18...) of BARACK is 216 (6 x 6 x 6)!

Of the four 666 scriptures, the beast scripture is most stunning in revealing Obama:

Rev 13:18 (6+6+6) = verse 30927  = 13x793 + 13x793 + 13x793 !!!

To put it in English, the 666 beast scripture verse number is REBELLIOUS (13) BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (793) triply emphasized!

Since the antichrist is counterfeit christ, his number is the mirror of JESUS in Hebrew, 397! (see link) The 1189 chapters in the Bible attest to this mirroring: chapter 793 is chapter 397 counting from the last chapter! If you sum all numbers from 1 to 793, the total is 397 x 793 !!!!!

John the Revelator confirms the mirroring as well. The word antichrist is purely Johannine (1 Jn 2:18 twice; 2:22; 4:3; 2 Jn 7). In its first mention, the word appears TWICE for double emphasis. Is there a link between this DOUBLE ANTICHRIST verse and the 666 BEAST verse, both Johannine? You bet! Be amazed by the mirroring below:

1 John 2:18 (18=6+6+6) = verse 30569 = 7 x 11 x 397
    Re 13:18 (18=6+6+6) = verse 30927 = 3 x 13 x 793

What are the chances that the number of verses between them is 359 inclusive, the Hebrew gematria value of SATAN?

Evidence #2

Besides the standard and common English gematria schemes mentioned above, we also have the ordinal (A=1; B=2; C=3; ... Z=26) and reduced values (see link & below).

Reduced English Gematria

A=1	B=2	C=3	D=4	E=5	F=6	G=7	H=8	I=9
J=1	K=2	L=3	M=4	N=5	O=6	P=7	Q=8	R=9
S=1	T=2	U=3	V=4	W=5	X=6	Y=7	Z=8

The standard, ordinal and reduced values of Barack Hussein Obama are 793, 163 and 64. Scripture records the death of Judas (type of antichrist) in two chapters, Mat 27 and Acts 1. The chapter number of Mat 27 is 956 -- the sum of 793 and 163 -- standard and ordinal values of Barack Hussein Obama! The total number of chapters between Mat 27 and Acts 1 inclusive is 64 -- the reduced value of  Barack Hussein Obama!

Phew! The man is pointed to by Judas Iscariot in the only two chapters that record his death!

Evidence #3

The common English gematria (A=6; B=12; C=18 ...) of Barack Hussein Obama is 978. This does not look like 666. In fact, none of the three values above look like 666. However, the sum of these four values is 793+163+64+978 = 666 + 666 + 666  !!!!!!!!

Need I say more!?

Evidence #4

Increasingly coincidence is ruled out. Apply the four counting schemes to Obama's real name: BARRY SOETORO. The standard, ordinal, reduced and common values are 1458, 171, 63 and 1026. Again,  none of them looks like 666. The sum of the four values of Barack Hussein Obama is 666 triply emphaized. What about the sum of the four values of Obama's real name, Barry Soetoro? Can we also find the number of the beast? Yes! All it takes is a bit of manipulation of the numbers. It is certainly not the straightforward counting that we are accustomed to, to arrive at the number of the antichrist. But I think you will agree with me the number of the beast is hidden here as well! Subtract the forth value from the first three values: 1458 + 171 + 63 - 1026 = 666  !!!!!!

Hello? Is this confirmation or what!?

Evidence #5
In this evidence, Jesus REVEALED to John the identity of the antichrist! Impossible? With Jesus, all things are possible. He is the Wonderful Numberer. John the Revelator received the antichrist teaser and recorded it in Revelation chapter 13. John the Evangelist was shown the betrayer of Jesus (a type of antichrist) in chapter 13 of his Gospel. Is there a link between these two chapters marked by the number of rebellion, 13?

Take the standard, ordinal and reduced values of Barack Hussein Obama. Begin with Revelation 13 as the first chapter. Count forward the sum of these three values of the antichrist (793+163+64). Can you believe the counting leads us to John 13 when Jesus REVEALED to John the identity of Judas Iscariot in v26 (13+13)?

793+163+64 = 10 (Re 13 to end Bible) + 1189 (total no chapters of Bible) + 1010
Chapter 1010 = John 13 !!

Verse 27 says SATAN entered into Judas, the only person with the dubious honor of being possessed by Lucifer in Scripture! No doubt the antichrist is the Devil incarnate. At the start of this chapter verse 2, John recorded for us the DEVIL put into the heart of Judas to betray Jesus! The name JUDAS ISCARIOT last appears in the Bible in this chapter! 

So, tell me, is it coincidence that Barack Hussein Obama (three gematria values) just fits nicely between John 13 and Revelation 13 -- two antichrist chapters?
Evidence #6
5 million people will be in Washington to witness the inauguration of Obama on Jan 20, 2009. The world is falling all over him! In an interesting post by Hollis Caravetta yesterday (see link), she observed the 666 dimensions of the obelisk: "At the ground level each side of the monument measures 55.5’ long, which is equal to 666”.  As I already mentioned, the height of the obelisk is 555.5’ or 6,666”!"

Obama will be sworn in Jan 20, 2009. Given his immense popularity, let's just say he will go on and win the second term which ends on Jan 20, 2017. What do you know? On that end date, Obama will have lived PRECISELY 55.5 years, that is, 666 months since his birth on Aug 4, 1961!

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The 666 popcorn continues to pop. But I have to end here with more evidences saved for the next time. :(

HE IS AT THE DOOR!  :)

John

[LiberConservative]

Six letters in each name: Ronald Wilson Reagan

[RobRoy]

>>How about disproving the content of the commentary, rather than just denouncing it all as “untrue”?<<

There is really nothing to disprove. It is just a bunch of fun with numbers followed by BFCs (big fat claims).

[mnehring]

The problem is you are asking we ‘prove a negative’- an old logical fallacy. But if you want proof, take your once belief that the pope was the anti-Christ based on something you read, then take every other prediction of this type that you can find throughout the ages. Now statistically, what is there a better chance of, Obama being an anti-Christ, or just another of millions of predictions of the anti-Christ that never came true. I want to once again remind you of Matthew 7:15.

[mkjessup]

If Hitler, Stalin, and Mao failed to qualify as the anti-Christ, how can this empty suit from the Daley machine make the grade?

We've not actually gotten a look at what's really inside that suit, now have we?

I'm sure you've seen this, but I think it's worth repeating:

"Who Am I"

I was raised in one country but my father was born in another.

I was not his only child. He fathered several children with a number of women.

I became very close to my mother because my father showed little interest in me.

Then my mother died at an early age from cancer.

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a reliable birth certificate.

I grew up practicing one faith, but converted to Christianity because it was widely accepted in my country.

But, I practiced non-traditional beliefs and did not follow mainstream Christianity.

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, before I decided it was time to get serious about my life. I embarked on a new career in politics.

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up. It was clear to those who read my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

I became active in local politics when I was in my 30s and then burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office when I was in my 40s. I had a virtually non-existent resume, very little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.

Yet I was a powerful speaker who managed to draw incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy.

I was critical of my country in the last war. But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy. I had a plan on how we could do better.

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. I made promises and alliances to promote myself and my agendas.

Mine was a people's campaign. I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

I offered the people the hope that together we could change our country and the world.

I spoke on behalf of the downtrodden including persecuted minorities such as Jews, but my actual views were not widely known until after I became my nation's leader.

However, anyone could have easily learned what I really believed if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with.

But they did not.

Then I became the most powerful man in the world. And the world learned the truth. Who am I?

Adolf Hitler.

[mkjessup]

No its gross stupidy at its finest.and makes consertives look like DU moonbats

Well God knows we don't want any gross stupidy.

[Rammer]

Do you really think God intended the Bible to be that complicated and difficult to decipher and understand and require endless mathematical gymnastics to arrive at a conclusion?

[Pablo Mac]

Interesting, for sure, but when I read this, I couldn’t help but be reminded of the irritating girly-voice of Billy Mays pitching another useless item. Written in a more straightforward tone (fewer !!!!!!!!’s), it would ring with more credibility.

[stuartcr]

It’s amazing how if you start out with a premise, just how much you can stretch things to get the answers you want...

[mnehring]

By the way, did you know that the number 666 is one of those special numbers that people can manipulate with a lot of these numerology games. 666 is known as an abundant number. It is the sum of the first 36 natural numbers (i.e. 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 34 + 35 + 36 = 666), and thus a triangular number. Since 36 is both square and triangular, 666 is the sixth number of the form n2(n2 + 1) / 2 (sequence A037270 in OEIS) and the eighth number of the form n(n + 1)(n2 + n + 2) / 8 (doubly triangular numbers, A002817). In mathematics, an abundant number or excessive number is a number n for which σ(n) > 2n. ... A triangular number is the sum of the n natural numbers from 1 to n. ... 36 (thirty-six) is the natural number following 35 and preceding 37. ... In mathematics, a square number, sometimes also called a perfect square, is an integer that can be written as the square of some other integer; in other words, it is the product of some integer with itself. ... The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS) is an extensive searchable database of integer sequences, freely available on the Web. ...

666 is the sum of the squares of the first seven prime numbers (i.e. 22 + 32 + 52 + 72 + 112 + 132 + 172 = 666). In mathematics, a prime number (or a prime) is a natural number which has exactly two distinct natural number divisors: 1 and itself. ...

The harmonic mean of the decimal digits of 666 is (trivially — all repdigit natural numbers have this property) an integer: 3/(1/6 + 1/6 + 1/6) = 6, making 666 the 54th number with this property. In mathematics, the harmonic mean (formerly sometimes called the subcontrary mean) is one of several kinds of average. ... In mathematics and computer science, a numerical digit is a symbol, e. ... In recreational mathematics, a repdigit is a natural number composed of repeated instances of the same digit, most often in the decimal numeral system. ... Not to be confused with Natural number. ...

In base 10, 666 is a palindromic number, a repdigit and a Smith number. A prime reciprocal magic square based on 1/149 in base 10 has a magic total of 666. A palindromic number is a symmetrical number like 16461, that remains the same when its digits are reversed. ... In recreational mathematics, a repdigit is a natural number composed of repeated instances of the same digit, most often in the decimal numeral system. ... A Smith number is a number which in a given base, the sum of its digits is equal to the sum of the digits in its factorization. ... In mathematics, a reciprocal is a number divided into one, like 1/3 or 1/7. ...

The Roman numeral representation of the number 666 (DCLXVI) uses once each the Roman numeral symbols with values under 1,000, occurring in descending order of their respective values (D = 500, C = 100, L = 50, X = 10, V = 5, I = 1). The system of Roman numerals is a numeral system originating in ancient Rome, and was adapted from Etruscan numerals. ...

666 is a member of the Indices of prime Padovan sequence, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 14, 19, 30, 37, 84, 128, 469, 666, 1262, 1573, 2003, 2210, ... (sequence A112882 in OEIS).

[stockpirate]

The IL pick three loto number on November 5, 2008 was 666........

[PrairieRoot]

Tng is wrong. If you take value=p, and pi is not carried over in the third extrapolation, then clearly you can’t make chocolate chip cookies. (I think that about sums it up.)

[mkjessup]

Do you really think God intended the Bible to be that complicated and difficult to decipher and understand and require endless mathematical gymnastics to arrive at a conclusion?

I think that what Sir Arthur Eddington said about the universe could just as easily have been said about the Almighty:

"Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine."

[lupie]

John Tng of Five Doves is NO bible scholar. I first ran into that site close to 11 yrs ago. I pop in there every once in a while to see if they are still at it. They always are. They are always playing with gematria to say that so and so is the antichrist. I cannot tell you how many different people that the site, including Tng has manipulated numbers to come up with 666 for several people. Including Clinton. The only thing they “figure” out more often is the date of the rapture. And there have been dozens and dozens and dozens of those days that came and went. So have also there have been a few dozen “antichrists” that whose name added up to 666 that have come and gone. That doesn’t phase them. They get just as excited and have just as much “evidence” for the next one that comes along (and then passes without fulfillment). Don’t be deceived by this site.

[mkjessup]

That’s interesting. Do you have links showing the dates to be true? I’d like to show it to other people bacause it is a little weird.

A simple Google search should confirm those dates, and the link to the Illinois State Lottery is working (as of today).

[frithguild]

Just here to look at post 66

[RobRoy]

Got this from another site. It’s fun too:

I am compensating the music frequencies errors with extra sunlight.

432 = The Cosmic Key (Sun)
432 * 432 = Speed of Light in miles per second
432000 * 2 = Diameter of the Sun in miles
4320 = 72 X 60, or sixty degrees of precession in the Zodiac.
43200 = average number of seconds a day, having sun light (12 * 60 * 60)
432 + (mirror) 234 = 666 = Magic Square of the Sun

It is all bast on the 7 liberal arts.
trivium = grammar, logic, rhetoric
quadrivium = geometry, arithmetic, astronomy, music

Hopefully the New World Order does not change the Sun.

[Sherman Logan]

I spoke on behalf of the downtrodden including persecuted minorities such as Jews...

Right. AH spoke out about the Jews all right, but you sure can't call it on their behalf. He also never hid his plans for the Jews. In fact, you couldn't get him to shut up about them.

[RobRoy]

Good one!!!

[rjp2005]

My goodness this is nuts. Don’t bother reading it. Read Daniel and Revelation instead.

While Obama’s use of stealth tactics are very “anti-Christian”, he is NOT the actual AC spoken in the Scriptures.

Daniel says the “opening kickoff” of the end times period - a 490 year series of events (70 weeks prophecy) - is a conquering war instigated by Persia. That’s only the beginning, and we have yet to see even that.