Joan of Arc Was a Loser

Flopping Aces ^ | 11-28-08 | mlajoie2

[Starman417]

Yes, Joan of Arc was a loser. Moses was a failure. Churchill was an outcast and then an outcast again. The Lord Jesus himself was defeated. This is an important thing to remember at times like this. The election has been lost. But even the defeated never lose - even when they do - if they preserve that core of self deep within that no one but our Creator can touch.

Yes, as we probably all know, Joan of Arc did have some success. [Her story is one of the best and well-documented of any medieval saint (save Francis of Assisi, perhaps) in historical terms and would be worth anyone’s time to investigate further. Mark Twain devoted 14 years of his life to research his version of her story under another pseudonym and considered it his best work.] By 1428, the Hundred Years War had been going on since 1337 and the social and moral effects were devastating to the country in countless ways as war usually is (mercenary war in particular!). Then along came this young girl from Domremy. Within a few months, she energized the ‘useless’ Dauphin, handed two major defeats to the English and Burgundians and got Charles crowned at Rheims. She accomplished more in this short time than had been done in a century, and with relatively little loss. This seems like success to us, but we have the benefit of seeing from afar and knowing what followed. Yes, by 1453, the ‘cowardly’ Charles would personally lead the conquest of Calais and complete the eviction of the English invaders; and we can look back to what Joan did as the crucial turning point.

But in 1428, that was far in the future. What did it look like to those at the time?

[wolfcreek]

There's a billboard here with a pic of A. Lincoln. Underneath, it say failed, failed and failed again.

Under that Perseverance.

[kbennkc]

Richard Nixon , the real comeback kid .

[BlueStateBlues]

It was only three years ago I found out her real name was Jeanne. There’s a great French movie “The Passion of Jeanne de’ Arc”, a silent film which is quite amazing.

[GOP Poet]

bookmark

[Vince Ferrer]

Except for the fight in the market with the tall Arab swordsman, Indiana Jones loses every fight in the Raiders of the Lost Arc. He just keeps getting up and fighting, and eventually comes out ahead.

[Starman417]

Andrew Sullivan linked to the piece and now we’re overrun with angry liberals....love it!

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/the-logic-of-bu.html

Curt
Flopping Aces

[wolfcreek]

http://www.forbetterlife.org/be_inspired/billboards.asp?id=24&please=print

[Frantzie]

Milla Jojovovich as Joan. What a pretty face she has.

[EyeGuy]

If you haven’t already read Mark Twain’s book on Joan of Arc you definitely should.

Twain was the epitome of a cynical agnostic, yet he spent years on his book regarding the magnificent French saint.

I think her remarkable story convinced even him, of the existence of God. It would do the same for any rational person.

[dsc]

“If you haven’t already read Mark Twain’s book on Joan of Arc you definitely should.”

Available on line for free.

[pray4liberty]

Yes, Joan of Arc was a loser. Moses was a failure. Churchill was an outcast and then an outcast again. The Lord Jesus himself was defeated.

Is this satire? These people were not "losers"--they are still making an impact on society to this very day.

That's proof of a winner. Losers are not remembered.

[dr_who]

Papa was a rolling stone.

[Polynikes]

“It was only three years ago I found out her real name was Jeanne.”

Here is another Jeanne who didn't give up. Sort of a Molly Pitcher with an axe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Hachette

[Sherman Logan]

Yes, by 1453, the ‘cowardly’ Charles would personally lead the conquest of Calais

Nope. England held Calais till 1558, in the reign of Bloody Mary.

I'm not sure what the author is talking about. The war did end in 1453, but it had nothing to do with Calais.

[sionnsar]

ping

[ViLaLuz]

“The Lord Jesus himself was defeated.”

No, absolutely not.

[Colorado Cowgirl]

You are correct. In the book of Acts Chapter 10 is says:
Act 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
Act 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
Act 10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, [even] to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. He is Alive!!!

[Lancey Howard]

Hey, if she could survive getting swallowed by that whale, I’d say she’s a winner.

[Screaming_Gerbil]

“If you haven’t already read Mark Twain’s book on Joan of Arc you definitely should.”

Available on line for free.

Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc