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Homosexual U.K. Documentarian Says Gay Lifestyle a "Sewer"
LifeSiteNews ^ | September 10, 2008 | Hilary White

Posted on 11/26/2008 3:55:45 PM PST by DestinyEagle

A British homosexual journalist admits that his documentary on the London gay scene is likely to "burn every bridge in the gay world I've got."

Simon Fanshawe is a writer and broadcaster who created the documentary "The Trouble With Gay Men" after becoming increasingly alarmed at the shallowness and destructiveness of the "gay lifestyle." The film, made for BBC 3 television, questions the emotional and psychological immaturity, narcissism, nihilism and self-destructive tendencies of many in the homosexual community. Fanshawe says he wants homosexual men to "grow up" and get beyond their state of "extended adolescence."

Fanshawe, who was involved in the early homosexualist political movement, says, "We've fought discrimination and prejudice, only to wreck ourselves with drugs and wild sex."

In his documentary Fanshawe admits that the homosexualist movement has in the main achieved its political goals of equalising homosexuality with natural sexual relations, in abolishing laws against sodomy and creating legal equivalency with marriage and adoption. Given these achievements, Fanshawe asks, "Why do we seem hell bent on behaving like eternal teenagers?"

"We're hooked on vanity, and regard older men with contempt. Despite AIDS we're still chasing the ultimate sexual high and what's more are determined to wreck ourselves on designer drugs. We're happy to assist the straight world in keeping alive the image of all gay men as limp-wristed queens."

He says that he has recently "started to worry" about the ways in which "gay liberation is celebrated" in his hometown of Brighton, a major centre of the homosexual subculture. At the annual "Mr. Gay" beauty pageant, which he describes as a "pathetic display of self-delusion", Fanshawe tells a contestant, "I'm old enough to remember when all those women were fighting against Miss World...What we're all saying about ourselves is that actually to be really gay, properly gay, what you've got to be is cute, and young."

"Extreme vanity" he says, has been "sewn into gay culture." It "is now so mainstream in the gay community that otherwise intelligent young men are happy to be treated as sex objects on a demeaning meat rack."

Gay men, he says, are so "hardwired" towards finding casual sexual encounters, some going as far as plastic implants to enhance their appearance, that finding genuine intimacy is "practically impossible."

"Vast amounts of our leisure time are organised around sex, straight or gay. But what gay men have done is organise our identity around sex. And that is corrosive. And to make things worse, promiscuity has become the norm."

The documentarian asks the proprietor of a gay sex bath house, "Paul", who had just related some graphic stories of group sexual encounters in the establishment, "Are we just swimming around in a sewer which we're just sort of saying is normal?"

For objecting to the lifestyle of pursuing casual and "extreme" sex and for holding genuine human intimacy as a goal, Paul told Fanshawe that he is "the closest thing to a straight person in a gay man's body I have ever met. There should be an operation for you, dear."

Paul was adamant and forthright in his belief that the gay lifestyle is incompatible with happiness and fidelity in human relations, expressing his dissatisfaction with civil unions legislation. "The temptation of other things will always stand in the way of two gay men having a long-term, loving, caring relationship."

Fanshawe says he is horrified at the lack of emotional involvement and at the willingness of men to engage in "unsafe sex." The film includes statistics that show the deadly consequences of the homosexual lifestyle. One in nine gay men in London is HIV infected and new cases of HIV have doubled in the city in five years. Incidences of syphilis have increased in the same time period 616 per cent.

"Unsafe" sex, he says, is not the only way in which gay men are self destructive. "If there's a new drug, gay men will find it and take it," he states.

At one point Fanshawe interviews a homosexual man who has "done all the drugs" and now campaigns in gay clubs against the growing use of crystal methamphetamine. The man, who could not be identified for fear of reprisals from drug dealers, said that crystal meth is preferred in the gay community because it reduces the inhibitions and allows sex to be brought to an "animalistic" level "devoid of emotion." The film says that one in five gay men in London use crystal meth.


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To: gusopol3
it’s taken him years of observation to learn what anyone honest knows instinctively at first sight.

Lust makes you go blind.

Just because you're blind doesn't mean you can't identify the elephant in the room. It just takes longer.

21 posted on 11/26/2008 4:30:24 PM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; Frantzie
"...At 1am, after about an hour spent on Google, Tim's story began to make more sense. It became quite clear that for a large section of the urban gay scene, unprotected sex is the norm; that risking HIV is a buzz, a burst of routine impetuosity, like flooring the accelerator in the Jag on the M40 going home.

"Anyway," said Michael, the host of a very nasty site indeed, "Aids is a minor inconvenience these days. It's not the catastrophe it once was."

Then there was a darker side, the romanticising of Aids itself. Google led me underground, to gay clubbers with "HIV neg" tattooed on their biceps as an invitation for others to infect them, to online chats about HIV-spreading sex parties, talk of "conceiving" the virus like a pregnancy and the intense intimacy of infecting a partner.

"It offers a kind of permanent partnership," said a journalist for a gay magazine, "a connection outside time."

( ... )

My priest friend telephoned on Tuesday, after Tim's funeral. The HIV positive boyfriend had a new boyfriend, he said, who had already moved into Tim's old flat, but the service was nonetheless romantic. Mourners told stories about the unique love between Tim and his boyfriend, which the vicar called sacrificial, "Christ-like".

Last rites for the man who chose Aids, Jan 15, 'o6, Telegraph.co.uk
22 posted on 11/26/2008 4:32:30 PM PST by flowerplough (Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. -O, Jan '08)
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To: xtinct

wow
sorry to hear
I have just said the same on my post
but to clarify quickly

every homosexual I have ever met are immature, the women seem to have a problem with authority and the men act like little children.

The men especially seem to only ever think of sex and they make suggestive sexual remarks and then giggle about it

I swear I really believe they do have mental problems and if they did seek mental help with a non liberal pro homo shrink I think they would be cured.

Even ex homosexuals have said the same that they were never born that way but would tell themselves they born like that because it made them feel more normal and when they get out of that homosexual circle and away form the radicals who lead them then they do realise how wrong they were in their mind and acts


23 posted on 11/26/2008 4:32:46 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: DestinyEagle

The same thing happened in the early years of HIV. A well-known “gay activist” back then in San Francisco (Randy Shilts) was the equivalent of Mr. Fanshawe.

He campaigned to get the “gay bath houses” shut down and ran similar public education campaigns in “the community” to get “the community” to change its ways. He not only met with resistance “in the community”, he also met with resistance from government “public health” officials. As he became disgusted with everyone’s reaction to what he thought was reasonable and sensible, he became persona-non-grata in “the community”.

He wrote a book about the whole experience, titled: “And the Band Played On”.

Most reviewers focus on the various criticisms that Mr. Shilts had for the media, and for all levels of government (some of it misdirected and wrong-headed in my view), while most also either ignore or make light of the criticism he had for the “gay community”; which he was a part of and from which he was ostracized for things, truthful things, he said about it.

I am not trying to put Mr. Fanshawe or Mr. Shilts on the same level as our Savior, but it may be a truism of human culture that a prophet is often rejected by their own community.


24 posted on 11/26/2008 4:34:01 PM PST by Wuli
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To: manc
It seems their whole life is based on sex

With all due respect and a smile on my face, "duh".

25 posted on 11/26/2008 4:35:37 PM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: flowerplough

Thanks for the link. So sad.


26 posted on 11/26/2008 4:39:26 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: DestinyEagle

I have, personally, lost some truly talented, creative, fun, loving, wonderful friends to AIDS. If they only would have considered what they were doing and gotten help. What a waste.


27 posted on 11/26/2008 4:44:44 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: DestinyEagle
Related article: Acting Up (The Gift Takes A Hard Look at Contemporary Gay Culture, Where HIV is Sexy and Prevention is Passé)
28 posted on 11/26/2008 4:46:02 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: DestinyEagle

It’s kind of like he’s saying the problem with homosexuality is the fact that men have sex with men.

I wonder how much his being older has effected his view on things. Only after he’s been kicked out of the party does he notice all the debauchery?


29 posted on 11/26/2008 4:50:13 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: DestinyEagle

If only they would just settle down and get married.....

(sarc)


30 posted on 11/26/2008 4:54:24 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Wuli

“HIV is certainly character-building. It’s made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I’d rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character.”

-Randy Shilts (August 8, 1951 – February 17, 1994)


31 posted on 11/26/2008 5:02:34 PM PST by flowerplough (Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. -O, Jan '08)
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To: 2banana

If most heterosexual single men could get away with it, they’d have multiple sex partners in one night. Luckily (and it is lucky), women are not wired that way and are much more selective—slowing down a man’s furtive urges and making them slow down and be civilized. Of course, when you have men on men, no such restraint exists—and the result is predictably disgusting.


32 posted on 11/26/2008 5:03:36 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: manc

I worked for a few years in my twenties at an establishment located in the ‘gay’ area of my city. I initially saw only what I wanted to see - the neighborhood was clean and the people were artsy, unique, etc.

I became friends with a homosexual guy I worked with. He was intelligent and kind, but hopelessly damaged inside. It was sad to see it up close. He hated his father, had been abused by a neighbor - all the factors that unfortunately are very common. I also know a young female who recently ‘came out’. She apparently went through some abuse as well.

These two are not bad people, but both were ‘coaxed’ and welcomed into the gay community because they were vulnerable emotionally and were searching for an identity. The gay movement is predatory - I think many young people end up in it through false pretenses. The failure of society at large to voice the physical and emotional dangers of the lifestyle is adding to the problem.

These people deserve our love and respect as individuals, but part of that is being honest about the destructive and empty path they’re taking.


33 posted on 11/26/2008 5:08:43 PM PST by Cap74 (God is a Republican, Santa Claus is a Democrat -P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Imagine the cost in healthcare! I would hazaed a guess that 1-2% of the pop is gay and constitutes 20-25% of the cost of healthcare. Anybody have any stats? The power of this minority is very frightening.


34 posted on 11/26/2008 5:13:16 PM PST by bubman
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To: bubman

It would be interesting to see the costs, indeed.


35 posted on 11/26/2008 5:18:08 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Cap74

totally agree

I have found on their websites that they are very manipulative and it seems that the radical leaders brainwash these people.

At schools they are now taught well the girls are that having two women making out is cool or pretending to be a lesbo
I went to a club a couple of years ago and there were two women in front of me on the dance floor pretending that they were lesbo’s
one of them came to me and asked did I enjoy seeing them etc.
I said no I think it is sad that you as a beautiful young woman would feel the need to do what you just did to get attention.

she told me that she thought all men liked it and it was her way to get attention, course I told her that I am married for one and I take it seriously but even if I was not I would not be interested in seeing any of that.
why pretend to be a homosexual
She really thought that it was the cool thing to do in front of men.
we talked all night andwished her all the best

anyway later some months later I forget how long precisely I saw her again and she came over and thanked me for that talk we had and that she introduced me to her boyfriend who seemed very nice and was looking to join the military

she told me she had never done that again and that she was embarrassed to make herself look so silly

I have no idea what happened to her but I hope she is alright and got out of the silly look at me


36 posted on 11/26/2008 5:20:01 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: little jeremiah
Again, the "lifestyle" that consumes you. You start out as an athlete, singer, scholor, teacher, reader, relative, and a dozen other things, and as time passes, you become nothing but "gay", which permeates, colors, and alters everything you are, then it demands that everyone celebrate you and your sins, then it demands that you cut connection with anyone that won't "accept" you as normal, until at last there is only...you. Alone. And empty. And wondering what the heck made everyone else change.
37 posted on 11/26/2008 5:23:25 PM PST by 50sDad (-/\/\/\- Obama's coming; be a Resistor!)
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To: DestinyEagle

It is true that gay culture, especially male gay culture, is astonishingly decadent. My husband’s best friend from childhood turned out to be gay; the friend’s “partner” has tales to make hair stand on end. After decades earning 80k+ a year he has nothing to show for it... all blown on sex, alcohol, drugs...

I can also say that every gay man I’ve known was abused or molested as a child. It is just not a normal way to be and is a result of distorted development.


38 posted on 11/26/2008 5:53:08 PM PST by islamama
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To: DestinyEagle
He better watch out for Al Gayda. Honesty hurts sometimes and the gay and lesbian community has shown us how they deal with honesty they do not like or agree with--with hate and attacks and fascists tactics to shut people up.

I am very happy he is being honest to his research and craft.

39 posted on 11/26/2008 6:10:58 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: DestinyEagle
Look how vicious they have become in attacking innocent families who supported Prop 8 and the sanctity of marriage.

Shows many of them in their true colours. I do respect the homosexual who goes about their life style quietly and in private. I took some time out from my computer and tuned in to NPR radio this afternoon. It comes from Midland, Michigan. A man was being interviewed on his critique of the movie "Milk". As you will know it was the true story of Harvey Milk, San Francisco homosexual and his death.

The man was being interviewed by the usual bright intelligent female voice. He went into almost an orgasm over the performance of one Sean Penn. Penn played Milk. He was ecstatic over the portrayal as a homosexual. He whipped in a quick "the hetero Penn" to absolve Penn of any whispers.

The lie was repeated about Dan White, who killed Milk and Mayor Moscone. Homophobe White was a term used. White killed both men being distraught over his firing. Wrong of course and absolutely mindless, but to lose a job hits on just about anyone, who then commits the folly of murder.

Hollywood, the Sodom and Gommorah, but very clever about it.

40 posted on 11/26/2008 6:22:55 PM PST by Peter Libra
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