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To: Nick Danger; musicman; Triple; wendy1946; HerrBlucher; CriticalJ; Dr.Zoidberg; frog in a pot; ...
Has Obama forfeited keeping his official Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth private?

Obama has already made public two accounts of his birth certificate. One, is his published biography where he describes in detail the contents of his Hawaii birth certificate. Two, is his pre-election public website publishing an (arguably) official Hawaii record of his birth certificate. It seems to me these two public self-disclosures, truthful or not, greatly reduce his claim of privacy (vs public record) of his vault copy Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth.

46 posted on 11/25/2008 10:41:24 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: XHogPilot

What does he say about his birth certificate in his book? I’ve just read a quote where he says he found it in a book or something.

I have no doubt that it was written that way on purpose. After all, Ayers most likely helped him with his books, and he’s been grooming 0bama for years.


47 posted on 11/25/2008 10:48:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: XHogPilot
"It seems to me these two public self-disclosures, truthful or not, greatly reduce his claim of privacy"

I agree!!!

48 posted on 11/26/2008 7:30:07 AM PST by musicman
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To: XHogPilot; Windflier; musicman

“Has Obama forfeited keeping his official Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth private?”
He can hide behind Governor Lingle’s (sp?) directive until a court may order otherwise. (My out-of-the-box hope is that Lingle’s intent was to prevent a Sandy Burglar operation.)

“It seems to me these two public self-disclosures, truthful or not, greatly reduce his claim of privacy”
One “disclosure” is the narrative in a book, and depending on what was said he would likely say the facts have changed. He is on tape saying at one time he was trying to determine who his father was.
The second “disclosure” was an intent to deceive (fraud).by publishing a forged document on his website (or in the alternative, by not timely renouncing the document). That should be viewed as quite serious, especially when the actor is an attorney!
There was at least a third disclosure. He stated/swore/represented in his primary filings in each state that he was fully qualified for the office. That is why the Keyes CA suit is attractive, arguably the CA SOS can ask him to prove he is qualified.
(But again, I do not want him to offer evidence he is natural born, I want the Republicans to demonstrate he was not.

At the moment, however, he is has no obligation to demonstrate he is natural born.

“It will not go away until the world sees his long form BC.”
Unfortunately, if he is sworn into office, the name of the game changes significantly. It goes from a clean “yes” or “no” on the issue of his qualification, to an impeachment proceeding. With a Dem-controlled Congress, I would not bet on an impeachment. But, if he is ousted from office he should be tried for criminal fraud.


49 posted on 11/26/2008 9:35:04 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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