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To: XHogPilot; Windflier; musicman

“Has Obama forfeited keeping his official Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth private?”
He can hide behind Governor Lingle’s (sp?) directive until a court may order otherwise. (My out-of-the-box hope is that Lingle’s intent was to prevent a Sandy Burglar operation.)

“It seems to me these two public self-disclosures, truthful or not, greatly reduce his claim of privacy”
One “disclosure” is the narrative in a book, and depending on what was said he would likely say the facts have changed. He is on tape saying at one time he was trying to determine who his father was.
The second “disclosure” was an intent to deceive (fraud).by publishing a forged document on his website (or in the alternative, by not timely renouncing the document). That should be viewed as quite serious, especially when the actor is an attorney!
There was at least a third disclosure. He stated/swore/represented in his primary filings in each state that he was fully qualified for the office. That is why the Keyes CA suit is attractive, arguably the CA SOS can ask him to prove he is qualified.
(But again, I do not want him to offer evidence he is natural born, I want the Republicans to demonstrate he was not.

At the moment, however, he is has no obligation to demonstrate he is natural born.

“It will not go away until the world sees his long form BC.”
Unfortunately, if he is sworn into office, the name of the game changes significantly. It goes from a clean “yes” or “no” on the issue of his qualification, to an impeachment proceeding. With a Dem-controlled Congress, I would not bet on an impeachment. But, if he is ousted from office he should be tried for criminal fraud.


49 posted on 11/26/2008 9:35:04 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: frog in a pot
It is the reponsibility of the nominating party to prove he is fully qualified. It is each states' Secretary of State responsibility to pursue any challenge to the same. Both have failed their responsibility.

But again, I do not want him to offer evidence he is natural born, I want the Republicans to demonstrate he was not.

50 posted on 11/27/2008 10:49:06 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: frog in a pot

Of course he is under an obligation to demonstrate that he is natural born! That’s a burden, a duty, of office, to respect “the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth”. To not suffer a vanity to hold it even under the appearance of fraud, when that appearance can readily be resolved.


51 posted on 11/27/2008 10:52:39 AM PST by bvw
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