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To: GunRunner
"-Are Hindus virtuous for their faith?"

Absolutely not. Their "faith" is a horrible abomination that completely ignores God's commandments.

"-Do non-Christian Buddhists burn in hell for all eternity when they die?"

All who deny Christ are subject to the second death.

"-Are books and gospels not included in the Bible and/or were suppressed by the Catholic church also the word of God?"

Most of them, definately not. They were not included because they were obviously not of God.

" -What is the age of the Earth?"

Ages are dependent on time, which is itself a creation to be extinguished. God existed out of constraints like time and space, and will dispense with them after they have served their purpose.

"-Are Thomas Jefferson and other Founding Fathers who were deists in hell right now?"

None of our founders were diests, and most certainly not Jefferson, who was known to spend two or more hours each day in prayer, and lead a church service each sunday in the chamber of congress. We cannot know where any deceased person is because we cannot discern the state of their hearts.

184 posted on 11/25/2008 9:07:38 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: editor-surveyor

I’m certainly glad to see when someone doesn’t mince words with the truth.

And someone needs to get away from their childish view of “hell” - the “flames” are figurative.

The lamentation is real, however, when a soul realizes that God has granted their desire to remain separated from Him, FOREVER.


185 posted on 11/25/2008 9:09:57 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: editor-surveyor
Absolutely not. Their "faith" is a horrible abomination that completely ignores God's commandments.

OK, but you realize that if you were born in India, you would think the opposite. Why does god let geography and the location of one's birth have such a large influence on the fate of one's eternal soul?

All who deny Christ are subject to the second death.

Does second death mean you can rest in peace without living under the rule of a cosmic dictator? If I don't want to go to heaven or hell, is there a third alternative?

Most of them, definately not. They were not included because they were obviously not of God.

So god had a direct hand in guiding the early Roman Catholic church as to what books to include in the Bible? Did god also have a hand in bringing about the concept of limbo for babies who died before baptism? Likewise did god have a hand in the reversal and discarding of the concept of limbo by Pope Benedict last year?

Ages are dependent on time, which is itself a creation to be extinguished. God existed out of constraints like time and space, and will dispense with them after they have served their purpose.

I was born in 1978. Does that mean my age is something different than 30? If not, why does the age of the Earth have to be so ambiguous?

None of our founders were diests, and most certainly not Jefferson, who was known to spend two or more hours each day in prayer, and lead a church service each sunday in the chamber of congress. We cannot know where any deceased person is because we cannot discern the state of their hearts.

Jefferson once wrote a letter to John Adams where he said:

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter...

He quite obviously did not believe in the fable of Jesus, nor did Thomas Paine who said:

The christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.

You're obviously in error on this, so to extrapolate from your earlier statement, the deist members of the Founding Fathers by your logic are now experiencing "second death".

190 posted on 11/25/2008 10:29:43 AM PST by GunRunner
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