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To: 2Wheels
What more do you need to know?

Really? I've got tons more questions.

-Are Hindus virtuous for their faith?
-Do non-Christian Buddhists burn in hell for all eternity when they die?
-Are books and gospels not included in the Bible and/or were suppressed by the Catholic church also the word of God? (New Testament apocrypha like the Gospel of James for instance) Or is it only the word of god if the church says so?
-What is the age of the Earth?
-Are Thomas Jefferson and other Founding Fathers who were deists in hell right now?

Those are just the religious questions off the top of my head. I'm sure I've got more if I wanted to give it more thought.

180 posted on 11/25/2008 7:44:14 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner
"-Are Hindus virtuous for their faith?"

Absolutely not. Their "faith" is a horrible abomination that completely ignores God's commandments.

"-Do non-Christian Buddhists burn in hell for all eternity when they die?"

All who deny Christ are subject to the second death.

"-Are books and gospels not included in the Bible and/or were suppressed by the Catholic church also the word of God?"

Most of them, definately not. They were not included because they were obviously not of God.

" -What is the age of the Earth?"

Ages are dependent on time, which is itself a creation to be extinguished. God existed out of constraints like time and space, and will dispense with them after they have served their purpose.

"-Are Thomas Jefferson and other Founding Fathers who were deists in hell right now?"

None of our founders were diests, and most certainly not Jefferson, who was known to spend two or more hours each day in prayer, and lead a church service each sunday in the chamber of congress. We cannot know where any deceased person is because we cannot discern the state of their hearts.

184 posted on 11/25/2008 9:07:38 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: GunRunner

As I said - it is clear you have tons of questions.

It is interesting that you sound as if you’re more interested in others’ eternity than your own.

That concern is in itself, a virtue.......

If the following doesn’t satisfy your thirst for determining the Way and who is part of the Way, then nothing will:
Jesus himself said, “I am the way and the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me.”

I know you’ve heard that a thousand times.

There is also a reason there are 66 books in the Bible. There are other books that could be included easily. You tell me why scholars from all over the globe and of dozens of ‘denominations’ over centuries have determined what books are contained in the Bible? Nothing to do with ‘the church’. You know, media speaks of ‘the church’ as being the Catholic church which is interesting. God’s word speaks of ‘the church’ as Christ’s church. His and his alone. Then there are members of Christs church.
It is no accident the books that are in the Bible are what they are.
I suspect there is plenty in those 66 books to get you to heaven without worrying about those books not included, right?
Why Thomas Jefferson? Cannot prominent people who do ‘good’ still be lost? I personally know numerous atheists who are far more giving of time and money than many ‘devout Christians’. I can also tell you that if one of these two is striving for a pure and giving heart, one is forgiven and one isn’t interested in forgiveness.

The age of the earth...where eternity is concerned, who cares? It’s age will prove irrelevant when we stand before the Judge.

Allow me to inform you of some critical data in your self absorption. Your pride will increase the weight on your shoulders with every passing day. Never forget that while you demean the Supreme Being, He is in fact, The Creator, and you are the created. This is absolute.
Your endeavour for ‘evidence’ will never cease. Nevermind the air you breath, the gravity holding your pride to the ground. The sun providing food for your full belly. And a billion other things you choose to look past in your search for evidence.
Do you not realize God KNEW Job would never let go of him? Who promised a life of chocolate covered cherrries, huh?

And just in case anyone has read this far, I really want to comment back to the original article before I get banned.
How far, how desparate and futile will a man’s thoughts dare to go to blaspheme God’s Universe and creation?

As if chaos isn’t enough proof in itself that all this CANNOT be the result of chaos - some have to come up with multiple universes to justify some self serving means.
John Clayton (former atheist) has a formula that proves more faith is required to believe in chaos than to believe a Creator made it all. Do some research on him.

Have a nice Thanksgiving!


198 posted on 11/25/2008 1:08:38 PM PST by 2Wheels
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To: GunRunner; All

“Do non-Christian Buddhists burn in hell for all eternity when they die?”

According to the Catholic church,ignorant, virtuous non-Christians go to the same place as unbaptized infants, that is to limbo. See my comment 172. However, if they know about Jesus and fail to convert, then they are candidates for hell.


201 posted on 11/25/2008 9:08:12 PM PST by gleeaikin
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