Ir ia “odd” that Coleman has never gained a single vote in the proceedings, it seems. Such is MN.
With so many challenged ballots, the canvassing board is going to end up deciding the election. I believe the board is split between parties, with the Democrat Acorn Sec of State as the tiebreaker in the event of a split...
I think Norm may as well clear out his senate desk now.
As of 10 minutes ago the latest numbers show Coleman leading by 147 votes:
http://ww2.startribune.com/news/metro/elections/returns/2008/recount/msenco.html
Here’s the link to an update. http://ww2.startribune.com/news/metro/elections/returns/2008/recount/msenco.html
Coleman is back up by 147, with 65% of votes counted. I am stunned to see Coleman has actually GAINED votes in Hennepin County.
I am certain the counting will stop as soon as Franken gets a lead.
Just once, I’d like to see a recount where the Republican candidate actually grows his lead over the cheating weasel that’s on the Democrat side.
Then I’d like it to happen every subsequent time. If Franken wins, Coleman needs to challenge each and every vote for Franken and demand that they be matched to actual living adults that are properly registered to vote.
I have no doubt that Democrats would swear in Caligula’s horse if it meant 60 votes, but sometimes I can’t help thinking that the thought of this clown sitting among these “illustrious” Senators has more than a few Dems nervous. I see a whole lot more Dems pulling for the Georgia seat than fighting for Franken. Don’t get me wrong-—they’ll take his vote. I just think they won’t cry very hard if he loses.
What they, the Dems, might not understand is that this is their lot in politics forever more.
Even if they get their collectivist Utopia, they will have to cheat, cover-up, silence critics, lie, accuse, and blame for ever.
You would think at least some of them would get tired of fraud, deceit and covering up.
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The Somali Muslims that this administration seemes hell bent on letting into the country voted unanimously for their boy Franken...but their pirate buddy votes have yet to be counted.
Everyone is interpreting these recount numbers incorrectly.
Franken’s gains are NOT the result of new votes being “found” - there are a trivial number of “undervotes” being found. Virtually all of the changes in the counts are a result of votes being temporarily removed from the tallies of both Coleman and Franken due to challenges.
It’s just that Coleman is having more votes “removed” than Franken - probably almost entirely due to Franken challenges. When a ballot is challenged, it is temporarily removed from the count. So the changes in the official tallies don’t really mean too much - it’s all about the final dispensation of the challenged ballots which have been removed from the count temporarily.
Here are the numbers. So far, Coleman’s official vote count has decreased by 603 votes, and Franken’s official vote count has decreased by 535 votes for a net “gain” to Franken of 68 votes. (215 lead - 68 Franken gain = 147 current Coleman lead)
However, at the same time, Coleman has challenged 860 ballots and Franken has challenged 868 ballots. All of these have been temporarily removed from the counts.
When the recount is over, all of the challenged ballots will be reviewed by the canvassing board and decisions made.
One should assume that if a candidate challenges a ballot, it’s because it otherwise would have been interpreted in a way unfavorable to that candidate.
Therefore, whoever has the MOST challenges is likely to do WORSE with the challenged ballots. i.e., chances are that most of the Franken challenges will go to Coleman, and that most of the Coleman challenges will go to Franken.
Right now, having done all the math, I would rather be sitting in Coleman’s position than Franken’s. If trends hold, Coleman will end the recount with a lead of 25-75 votes (my over-under is 50), with most of the challenges having been made by Franken.
Since most challenges will have been made by Franken, the presumption mustt be that they will break for Coleman, unless Coleman has been challenging ballots on significantly more liberal and frivolous grounds than Franken.
This is unlikely, therefore Franken’s lead will probably not decrease.
I predict a Coleman win by 50 votes.
Also, the process seems to be running very fairly and smoothly, so let’s not behave like moonbats and truthers with their conspiracy theories. Let’s let these people do their jobs. Everyone is being watched closely and I expect a very fair result.
Good lord. Why keep these stupid paper ballots. Even my supposedly backwards state of LA has a system where no identifying marks, stray lines or finger smudges can lead to “confusion” about a voters intent. Obviously there are too many dopes in MN who can’t figure out how to mark a “scan tron” ballot. Ours has a plastic covered paper overlay where you press the candidates name and a yellow X appears next to the name. then press the Cast Vote button and you’re done. Simple.
Lots of luck, America. We'll need it.
I would be nice if recounts were illegal. It seems that a recount is more suspect than the tally reported on election day. The person ahead when the buzzer goes off wins. End of story.
It’s back up to + 180 for Coleman after Saturday’s work. The remaining counties look good for Coleman. I think he will still be ahead after the recount. Then they will fight over rejected absentee ballots and after that court battles.
Al Franken. A complete fraud, America hating, socialist.
BEYOND THE PALE!
the figure doesn't include ballot challenges, which have caused vote tallies for both men to drop.