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Runaway Taxpayers (Like Yours Truly, Those Who Can Will Leave California Alert)
Flash Report ^ | 11/21/2008 | Jon Coupal

Posted on 11/21/2008 9:35:31 AM PST by goldstategop

Seems that Governor Schwarzenegger wants to help out his old Hollywood friends with millions of dollars in tax breaks. He makes a case that lower taxes on film and television companies will reverse the trend of runaway production. Currently, California is losing out to at least 40 other states and Canada that are luring away production companies with very attractive tax incentives.

Five years ago, 66% of feature film production took place in California. Last year this was reduced to just 31% and the governor wants to help an industry that supports about 250,000 employees.

While a non-critical evaluation might make this tax cut seem a good idea -- encourage a major business to remain in our state and retain taxpaying employees -- it is coming from the same governor who is supporting tax increases on all Californians.

The average taxpayer looks at the lesson of runaway Hollywood production and draws an entirely different conclusion. They see just one more example, out of many, of high California taxes driving business, jobs and taxpayers out of state. The U.S. Census Bureau reports that the state is suffering a massive net out-migration of citizens to other states. In most cases, those leaving also represent a loss of jobs and taxpayers who are vital to supporting state and local services.

The governor would be wise to reexamine a tax policy that creates some winners -- like his Hollywood friends -- and many losers, i.e., ordinary California taxpayers. If we can afford to give entertainment companies a tax break, how about a break for all businesses and taxpayers? If a tax break for production companies will keep them here, why not apply the same principle to all and not only encourage native businesses and taxpayers to remain in the state, but encourage new business and taxpaying citizens to relocate here?

Californians like to think of themselves as leading the way for the rest of the nation. When it comes to taxes, we do. Our state has the highest income and sales taxes in the nation. We have the highest business taxes west of the Mississippi. When it comes to providing a healthy climate for business, several studies show we are leading the way to the bottom.

A few months ago, I had the privilege of speaking to a group of Utah legislators. When the subject of the California Legislature came up, they began to chuckle. They explained that they credited California lawmakers, with their anti-business policies, as a significant asset in getting businesses to relocate to their state.

It is time for the Legislature and the governor to take off their blinders and recognize that California is rapidly losing the competition with other states. Higher taxes that Sacramento politicians are pushing would make us even less competitive. If they want to grow the economy, put people back to work and ultimately increase revenues to government they need to move in the opposite direction.

A tax cut would go a long way toward polishing the image of the now tarnished Golden State. The Hollywood example has already shown businesses will respond to an attractive tax climate. Why not go on the offensive and be among the first states to make businesses an offer they can't refuse? A tax cut for all would be the quickest way to lift us from the grip of recession.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budgetcrisis; businessclimate; calbudget; california; flashreport; haha; hightaxation; joncoupal; liberalism; runawaytaxpayers
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To: joeystoy

“When I told Ben that we were looking to relocate and were considering North Carolina he raised his glass and said: ‘Good. We’ll turn that red state blue in no time.’”

Same is happening here in VA, having been infested by libs from the northeast and DC. They’ve successfully turned a once-reliable red state into deep blue. Too bad.


41 posted on 11/21/2008 10:40:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: KriegerGeist
"You all need to stay there. You Kalifornians come to other states and try to implement the same policies you left CA for and screw up our states."

LOL! I moved to Reno, NV from LA, CA in Fall of 2001. I still crack up at all the bumper stickers here that say....'We Don't Care How You Did It In California!" ;)

The problem is.....NV went blue in this election so we are at Commie Alert Defcon 5+ now....

42 posted on 11/21/2008 10:42:22 AM PST by BossLady (Every Time A Liberal Screams........a FREEPER Gets Their Wings.........)
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To: BossLady

Your problem is all the CA migrants to Clark County (Las Vegas). Up where you are at it is still Red.


43 posted on 11/21/2008 10:45:03 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Myrddin
The savings on my vehicle registration alone is twice what I spend on my heating and cooling all year long.

lol...I checked my handi dandy weather site...Looks like about 37 in your neck of the woods right now, going down to about 24 degrees tonight...I didn't think winter started until December?

I don't think my ice box is that cold...

Supposed to be about 77, today here. A little chilly, but we'll do our best.

44 posted on 11/21/2008 11:00:49 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

ok by me. I’m in Socal for now. 2.5 yrs then I can retire and get the hell out of here.


45 posted on 11/21/2008 11:11:06 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Clark County is now witnessing a decline in population, you cannot find a job in Las Vegas even if your father owns the Casino, we have a large tax deficit, that our legislature refuses to correct, because they are all bought and paid for by the special interests. We have the largest number of foreclosed homes in the Nation. We have the largest number of Banks being taken over by other banks, ( in other words the first bank want bust) Our Hospitals are cutting services every day, we are considering closing schools, and enlarging class sizes. So if you think Las Vegas is the promised land, come take a look at all of the construction cranes standing on top of unfinished structures. Structures that cannot be finished because the Bankers finally woke up and started doing what Banks have always done ( require some collateral for a loan) So What Happens in Las Vegas is a crime.. Nothing new
46 posted on 11/21/2008 11:16:11 AM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: Always Independent

Same thing for Nevada, IMO.


47 posted on 11/21/2008 12:51:09 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Fishrrman

A modification of that “income tax” criteria might be a state with a reasonably low income tax, but with low _other_ taxes, such as property taxes.””
Amen: Long after we are working actively, and no longer paying “income taxes”, we will be paying property taxes.
That is my highest criteria.
I also looked at the red/blue map for Nov 4th, and saw alot of areas where it was strongly RED.


48 posted on 11/21/2008 12:55:19 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: goldstategop
With all the talk in the most-hated congress ever about CEO pay levels & excesses, why does no one ever mention the outrageous pay that the “script readers” aka actors & actresses receive for their movies? What these American-haters earn for their movies is obscene.
49 posted on 11/21/2008 12:57:02 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

There is a good argument for splitting Oregon and Washington into East and West too.”

Also Nevada into North and South.


50 posted on 11/21/2008 12:59:13 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: dragnet2
I agree with the folks that want to stay in Cali and those that want to leave and move to New Hampshire... or Florida... or Colorado.

If you all wouldn't mind... just don't stop in Texas. We've got enough freaks in Austin that think they are the new San Francisco. Each year, more and more of the freaks think that government is the solution. Especially around our universities.

for all you yankees and kalifornicators, this is Texas

Odessa TX Pictures, Images and Photos

Texas Here I Come Pictures, Images and Photos

Any photos like this are FAKE!!!

west texas sunset Pictures, Images and Photos

Tommy in Texas Pictures, Images and Photos

Texas Bikini Pictures, Images and Photos

God Bless America... and God Blessed Texas

51 posted on 11/21/2008 1:34:34 PM PST by erman
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To: erman

Your last picture made me thank God for making such an incredibly beautiful woman.


52 posted on 11/21/2008 1:39:44 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Washoe county went Blue in the final count..... (barf!!!)


53 posted on 11/21/2008 2:13:29 PM PST by BossLady (Every Time A Liberal Screams........a FREEPER Gets Their Wings.........)
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To: mvpel

I moved away from MA 20 years ago for the same reason: taxes. But now I have moved away from NH because all those people from MA have forgotten why they left that pit in the first place. They are turning NH into MA. Of course, compared to CA, NH must be wonderful. Enjoy it while it lasts.


54 posted on 11/21/2008 2:16:36 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: goldstategop

And now someone here in CA government is kicking around the idea of a “departure tax” or “exit tax” for high wage earners and businesses who leave the state. Guess they want to capitalize on taxes they might have received from these people if they’d stayed.


55 posted on 11/21/2008 2:19:51 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen. - Dollard post)
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To: erman
Just tell all the Californicators that moving to Texas from California would be, ‘like moving to another country dude’.
56 posted on 11/21/2008 3:05:12 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: goldstategop

Just as soon as I can! which is not soon enough for me. Puke. I hate this lousy state.


57 posted on 11/21/2008 4:51:16 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: BooBoo1000
We were just in your fair city last week. Not too many visitors. It was a breeze to drive the Strip and we never waited at a restaurant. The value of our friend's house is down about 150K.

Is the City Center edifice going to be completed or abandoned?

58 posted on 11/21/2008 5:11:48 PM PST by pbear8 (I have plenty of credit, there is no crunch)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Why, Mr. Jeeves... :) Congratulations with your new company!


59 posted on 11/21/2008 5:33:30 PM PST by Alia
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To: Always Independent; goldstategop

I live in Los Angeles. If Walter Moore doesn’t become mayor next March, we are moving out of CA.

The Dem goons run it, top to bottom...
2-year olds with a wallet...

4L


60 posted on 11/21/2008 5:43:13 PM PST by 4Liberty (Discount window +fractional reserve banking = moral hazard + bank corporate welfare + Inflation tax)
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