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The game's afoot, Watson!( SCOTUS Process Obama Proof of Birth)
The Obama File Latest News ^ | 11/20/08 | Beckwith

Posted on 11/20/2008 8:28:49 AM PST by Candor7

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.

Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."

This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."

Every major news network, print and cable news like FOX, CNN and MSNBC, have ignored all the court cases challenging Obama's eligibility as sore losers or conspiracy theories. It might be in their best interest at this point to report this critically important meeting to take place on December 5, 2008, or lose what little credibility they have left.

If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College…

The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the "national election" pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.

Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court -- was denied -- and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.

Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.

On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be "DISTRIBUTED for Conference".

Background on "The Justices Conference" is discussed as follows by the Supreme Court Historical Society:

"No outsider enters the room during conference. The junior Associate Justice acts as "doorkeeper," sending for reference material, for instance, and receiving it at the door...

Five minutes before conference time, 9:30 or 10 a.m., the Justices are summoned. They exchange ritual handshakes and settle down at the long table. The Chief sits at the east end; the other Justices sit at places they have chosen in order of their seniority…

The Chief Justice opens the discussion, summarizing each case. The senior Associate Justice speaks next, and comment passes down the line. To be accepted for review, a case needs only four votes, fewer than the majority required for a decision on the case itself. Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set several weeks before argument.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; certifigate; colb; conference; madeinkenya; notmadeinusa; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; process; scotus; thomas
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To: SoCalSteve; LucyT; Fred Nerks
The interesting thing about all this is that no one has any documentary evidence on the facts. Obama has managed to seal, remove or obscure all of them.

If this Cert. Pet. ever gets out of conference, there will have to be a discovery process of the evidence. If the Obama's "CAIR" lawyers he uses just stand pat and say find the evidence yourselves, then we will have some very disgruntled SCOTUS justices.

We do know that the Hawaii BC published on the web is a forgery, as proven by Dr. Polarik, and Phil Berg has his documentary evidence on that part.

One would think that the facts have been obscured so that the issue of "natural born" cannot be decided.

This case will swing on the facts, not on the law. The law will be very much new, as no cases have been decided under Article II. I do not believe that the genberal laws concerning previous citizenship will govern the courts decision, beyond being merely advizory schemes on how U.S. citizenship is acquired and lost.

The purport and intent of Article II is to assure that a president not have divided loyalty, and that he be dedicated solely to the American People and the US Constitution. Obama fails that test without even broaching the issue of "natural born," by his conduct in Kenya in 2006/2007, when he campaigned for Rial Odinga, taking up policy positions which were directly in opposition to those of the United States, and likely comprised violations of the Logan Act. He did so again later by attempting to negotiate against American interests in Iraq.

So Obama's divided loyalty is actually on display for all to see, for those who wish to look.Perhaps that will figure into this case.

301 posted on 11/22/2008 2:50:55 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7
No Obama is not my president. He does not meet the Article II requirements under the plain meaning of those words.

I knew that all along.

302 posted on 11/22/2008 2:51:03 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
But I would add that there has been no concrete evidence presented to support the claim he was born in Kenya. A lot of rumor, but no fact.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I knew that all along.

At this point no one knows where in fact Obama was born and Obama has made sure of it.

That is why we have these suits in progress.

303 posted on 11/22/2008 3:00:50 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7
At this point no one knows where in fact Obama was born and Obama has made sure of it.

So why not give it up? You have no evidence that he wasn't born in the U.S. Nothing could possibly convince you he was born in the U.S. You're mind is made up.

304 posted on 11/22/2008 3:08:46 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: SFR

The Free and Accepted Masons started this country.


305 posted on 11/22/2008 3:28:05 PM PST by bannie
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To: LucyT

Me too, please. Thanks


306 posted on 11/22/2008 4:20:47 PM PST by upcountry miss
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To: upcountry miss

Okay; you are added to the list.


307 posted on 11/22/2008 4:26:43 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I cannot understand why you are willing to accept 0bama as POTUS when he flat out refuses to show he meets the most basic requirements of what is the highest law in the land.

Just because it will be difficult? Because there might be some unrest?

That sounds very UN-American to my ears: the Americans thrived on surmounting difficult, if not impossible situations throughout history. Now you want to “give up” because you feel it could be “hard”?

How the mighty have fallen.

Well, not yet, because there are a LOT of folks who are willing to continue to fight FOR their nation and Constitution.

I’d keep out of their way if I were you.


308 posted on 11/22/2008 4:27:34 PM PST by Don W (To write with a broken pencil is pointless.)
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To: Don W
I cannot understand why you are willing to accept 0bama as POTUS when he flat out refuses to show he meets the most basic requirements of what is the highest law in the land.

A couple of reasons. One, he won the election. Two, I accepted Bush and Clinton and Reagan as my presidents without ever seeing their birth certificates. And three, I have yet to see a single piece of solid evidence indicating that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii as he claims. No documentation. No affidavits. No solid evidence whatsoever. Nothing but rumor and wild stories.

I’d keep out of their way if I were you.

Oh no worries there.

309 posted on 11/22/2008 4:48:44 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; Fred Nerks; LucyT; Polarik; Beckwith
You have no genuine evidence that Obama was born in the US.

That is the problem. No one does.

And that problem will be the subject of a Justice Conference at SCOTUS

There is no direct public evidence one way or the other.

And we know why there is none. It has been removed from public scrutiny by Obama.

So which assumption is more logical.

1)That Obama was indeed born in the USA ( if so why obscure it? We live in a democratic Republic which requires that such information be before the public, even if the news media and a few Obama campaign lurkers do not think so.)

2) Or that he was not born in the USA ( logically makes sense , and indeed is more probative.)

If you have a pro Obama axe to grind, I have no problem with that.

But you will not have your way in no reply silence on this list my good man, whatever machinations of logic you might apply.

Have a nice this weekend and may your turkey taste good next weekend. I know mine will for it will be consumed with the gusto of genuine freedom.

310 posted on 11/22/2008 7:54:18 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7
"The MSM have been avoiding this story as if it is an infectious plague!"

Because they know what we know: Obama cannot survive the truth.

311 posted on 11/22/2008 7:57:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Why was his name Barry Soetoro?

Why now is his name Barack Hussein 0bama? Is he an illegal alien?

Original birth certificate ——————————Unavailable
Obama/Dunham marriage license -————Unavailable
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license ———— Unavailable
Soetoro adoption records-————————— Unavailable

Dept.of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records——Unavailable

Punahou School records-————————Unavailable
Occidental College records ————————Unavailable
Passport (Pakistan) -——————— Unavailable

Columbia College ——————Unavailable
No one remembers him at Columbia.
Columbia thesis ————Unavailable

Harvard College records ———————Unavailable
Harvard Law Review articles —————— Unavailable
(Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned)

Baptism certificate ————————Unavailable

Medical records ————————Unavailable

Illinois State Senate records ———————None
Illinois State Senate schedule————————Lost
Law practice client list —————— Not released

University of Chicago scholarly articles –——— None on file

Indonesian Besuki School Application—————Located
(Enrolled with name Barry Soetoro-faith “Islam”)

Selective Service Registration— Recently Released, but suspected as fraudulent


312 posted on 11/22/2008 8:03:38 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: Non-Sequitur
...I have yet to see a single piece of solid evidence indicating that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii as he claims. No documentation. No affidavits. No solid evidence whatsoever. Nothing but rumor and wild stories.

And I have yet to see a single piece of solid evidence indicating that obama WAS born in Hawaii as he claims. No documentation. No Affidavits. No solid evidence whatsoever.

313 posted on 11/22/2008 8:19:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Candor7
You have no genuine evidence that Obama was born in the US.

I have no genuine evidence that Bush, Clinton or Reagan were either.

If you have a pro Obama axe to grind, I have no problem with that.

Not pro-Obama but anti-moonbat. It's kind of a hobby of mine.

314 posted on 11/23/2008 5:42:35 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Future Snake Eater

Yes Future Snake Eater, I am new to the internet, because when I was young there was no Internet to learn. You see, I am 68 years old and really pissed off as to what the younger generation has brought to my Whitehouse. I am a strong believer in the old adage WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND. It will not be long before we can all say I TOLD YOU SO. Too bad it will be at the cost of our Nation’s survival. Hopefully I will not be around to see it, but my granddaughters will have to live it and that, my friend, is much to my sorrow.


315 posted on 11/23/2008 6:29:02 AM PST by nbhunt
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To: Non-Sequitur; Fred Nerks; Polarik; LucyT; Beckwith
I have no genuine evidence that Bush, Clinton or Reagan were either.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Sure you do, because Bush, Clinton, and Reagan did not obscure their birthplace information,nor did they spend 100s of thousands of dollars doing so as Obama has, it is readily available on White House Gov net:

Bush:( uncontroverted)
President Bush was born on July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut,

Clinton:(uncontroverted)
President Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe III on August 19, 1946, in Hope, Arkansas,

Reagan:(uncontroverted)

On February 6, 1911, Ronald Wilson Reagan was born to Nelle and John Reagan in Tampico, Illinois.

*****************

Obama? Birth Place Controverted. Forged Documents published
as cover.

No one seems to know where Obama was born, and its a politically “incorrect” question to ask where Obama was really born.

Maybe you could read this:

Polarik’s final report: Obama’s ‘Born’ Conspiracy Forged images, phony photos, and felony fraud
The Greater Evil ^ | 11/22/08 | Polarik

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2136816/posts?page=1

Good luck on your moonbat hunting. Look in the mirror occasionally, as a possible base line check.

316 posted on 11/23/2008 11:45:32 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Non-Sequitur; Candor7; Fred Nerks; Velveeta

Apparently you skipped over the facts in post #312.

Don’t want you to miss them, because a lot of people would like answers to questions you seemingly are ignoring.

Click right here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2135329/posts?page=312#312


317 posted on 11/23/2008 1:15:14 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: Candor7
Sure you do, because Bush, Clinton, and Reagan did not obscure their birthplace information,nor did they spend 100s of thousands of dollars doing so as Obama has, it is readily available on White House Gov net...

And no doubt that whitehouse.gov will say Obama was born in Honolulu. But I cannot say that I've ever seen the birth certificate of Bush or Reagan or Clinton. So how do you really know, hmmmm?

No one seems to know where Obama was born, and its a politically “incorrect” question to ask where Obama was really born.

Well, if you ask him Obama will say he was born in Honolulu. Why not try it and find out?

Good luck on your moonbat hunting. Look in the mirror occasionally, as a possible base line check

Thanks. But when it comes to moonbats, threads like this are what we in the Navy used to call 'target rich environments'.

318 posted on 11/23/2008 2:16:54 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: LucyT
Apparently you skipped over the facts in post #312.

No, I read it. And?

319 posted on 11/23/2008 2:17:31 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: ItsForTheChildren
"So you guys are fully prepared for President Biden?"

So long as he limits his non-presidential activities to walking, talking, OR chewing gum and does not attempt any three at one time.

Seriously gang, the supremes will define "natural born" in some manner as to allow the 'Oh' to continue with his coup.

Note, however, if I'm wrong on that one - the DNC and a whole lot of staffers would be complicit in a cover up of monster proportions.

320 posted on 11/23/2008 2:39:34 PM PST by norton
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