Posted on 11/19/2008 7:37:17 PM PST by GOP_Lady
You're acting like a buffoon.
Riiiiiight.
I'll answer it for you:
- The Mormon church takes in $5.9 Billion annually
- This would place it midway on the "Fortune 500" list
- The total Mormon assets are in excess of $30 Billion
Not bad. Scientology, by comparison, has assets of between $300 Million and $ 1 Billion, and takes in about $400 Million annually through the sale of counseling fees, books, "treatments", and investments.
Therefore, Mormonism is the most financially successful cult in the world.
You're still acting like a buffoon.
Maybe you can't help it?
Well, well, well. One of us only seems to have insults and ad hominem (attacks ("buffoon") in their little trick bag, and it isn't me.
Pathetic.
Let's get back to the premise that threw you so off balance in the first place that you chose to come after me.
Mormonism is a cult.
I don’t understand your reasoning and why you are upset this does not cost you anything....
Gosh haven’t you learn people do a lot of spinning about Palin yet she is one of the good guys!
You really should not let your emotions rule common sense.
If the Church did not have these funds they could nor be readly, willing, and able to help others-
http://www.providentliving.org/
No, it's not all I've got, and why would I want to give my best when all you can do is throw out inane implications?
Well, well, well. One of us only seems to have insults and ad hominem (attacks ("buffoon") in their little trick bag, and it isn't me.
You're right, I wasn't debating the (ahem) merits of your argument.
That's because you're acting like a buffoon.
Pathetic.
Agreed.
Let's get back to the premise that threw you so off balance in the first place that you chose to come after me.
Off balance? Hardly.
Coming after you? Umm... no. It's a simple observation: you're acting like a buffoon.
Mormonism is a cult.
You know, you Mormon-bashers really need to get some new material. This is playing just about as well as the "Bush is a Nazi" meme.
The Mormon Cult: The Truth about Mormons and Christianity
Yay! The "truth", as told by those who either a) have never set foot in a Mormon church or b) got their feelings hurt when they were Mormons, so it's all a lie now.
Be sure to include links to:
The Protestant Heretics: The Truth About Methodists, Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, etc. (written by Catholics)
The Catholic Damned: The Truth About Catholics and The Bible (written by two Pentecostal ministers and a Baptist Deacon)
...and don't forget the best one:
Jews are Swine and Their Christian Friends Must Die: The Truth About Everyone Who Is Not Muslim
Boy, talk about a "One Note Johnny." I would have thought you would have at least come up with different personal attack words.
Coming after you? Umm... no. It's a simple observation: you're acting like a buffoon.
See above.
You know, you Mormon-bashers really need to get some new material. This is playing just about as well as the "Bush is a Nazi" meme.
One fatal flaw in your analogy: Mormonism, when honestly examined against the facts, meets the definition of a cult to the letter. If you had bothered to even read that link instead of your response of "hand waving" then you might be enlightened. But, that might be too upsetting to you. Next, "Bush is a Nazi" is not supported by the facts and you know it. Apparently, you think by taking a legitimate claim, that Mormonism is a cult, and comparing it to something outrageous and nonsensical you make the case that anything that opposed you and Mormonism is hysterical and illogical. Nice try, but it doesn't hold water. It is a blatantly transparent attempt at obfuscation and distraction, and one we see often on this board.
Then, you include links that include words such as Jews are Swine and Their Christian Friends Must Die, which is more of the same from above. I guess you figure that if you throw out enough mud, everyone gets dirty and no one will get to the truth.
Here is another link that I suppose you won't read either. It doesn't the bombastic titles of yours, just a logical and thought provoking argument. I can see why it may terrify you.
A logical proof that Mormonism is false
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Mormonism teaches that God used to be a man on another world and that he became a god (this is called exaltation) and came to this world with his goddess wife. He was able to become a god because he followed the laws and ordinances of the god he served on another world. That god in turn was exalted by his god, who was exalted by his god, ad infinitum. In other words, there is a progression of gods being formed as far back as you look in time.
Truth does not contradict itself. If I gave two statements about a subject and the two statements contradicted each other, then you would know something was wrong. The law of non contradiction states that something cannot be both true and false in the same sense at the same time. In other words, truth does not contradict itself. This is basic logic. That which is true is internally consistent and contains no logical impossibilities. If something does contain a logical impossibility, then it cannot be true.
Mormonism teaches an infinite regression of causes. This means that it teaches that each god was made a god by a previous god. This means that as far back as you look in time, this process has always been occurring. This means that from an infinity of time in the past, the Mormon plan of exaltation (become gods) has been in effect. The only problem is that this is logically impossible. Since it is logically impossible, this means that Mormonism is false. Let's look closer.
There cannot be an infinite regression of causes. It is logically impossible. Why? Because you can not cross an infinity. In other words, in order for us to get to the present state of this god on this planet, there would have had to be an infinite number of exaltations in the past. But, this cannot be because in order to get to the present, you would have to transverse an infinity of exaltations and that is impossible since you cannot transverse an infinity -- if you could cross (transverse) an infinity of time, then it isn't infinite. Therefore, the Mormon system of infinite regressions of exaltations to godhood is impossible and Mormonism is proven false. Simple.
However, Mormons will not give in to a logical proof since their testimonies are not based on facts, but on what they claim is a testimony of the Holy Spirit. Of course, all cult groups have testimonies that their church is true (proving that testimonies are contradictory and untrustworthy as a means to determining truth). Nevertheless, they are taught to "feel" theological truth, not think it through.
How then do they respond to this logical proof that Mormonism is false? Normally they say that it is a mystery. Mysteries are fine, but they cannot suffice as an explanation if they contradict logic. In other words, if a principle is blatantly illogically, it cannot be true. Did you get that? It cannot be true. Saying it is a mystery means nothing if the proclamation of that mystery violates the laws of logic. Mormonism is proven false.
Uh huh. You should see my wide-eyed, drooling look. It's particularly effective.
If you had bothered to even read that link instead of your response of "hand waving" then you might be enlightened. But, that might be too upsetting to you.
Yep, it would be pretty upsetting to a mind-numbed cult victim like me. Maybe it would be as upsetting as it would be for you to actually attend an LDS Church service to find out first-hand what is taught there.
Apparently, you think by taking a legitimate claim, that Mormonism is a cult, and comparing it to something outrageous and nonsensical you make the case that anything that opposed you and Mormonism is hysterical and illogical.
Not at all. I think that your claim's legitimacy is severely undermined by its source, just as the example titles I gave are. But they aren't inherently any more outlandish than yours, and that was my point.
A logical proof that Mormonism is false
I'm still trying to find the part where members faithfully paying their tithes is a Bad Thing. Remember the bit about how much money the Church has? ...and the implication that all that money is somehow ... umm... bad. Where's that part?
During the 1980’s the billion dollar income of the mormon organization was a selling point for their door-to-door salesman...
They bothered me once a month...
Them and the JWs...
The mormons would ask me if I knew which “church” made the most money last year ???
I would play along...I’d ask who ???
They would excitedly tell me that they had taken in X amount of billions and more than any other church...and therefore were the “church” that “god” preferred...
I better join quick...etc...
Tnhey were crestfallen when I wasnt duly impressed...
But they came back next month ...
Regular as clockwork...
with their clockwork orange spiel...
It was always about money...
No amount of telling them that God owned the cattle on a thousand hills, hindered them...
(they doubted that Psalm 50:10 was as important as the stock their firm owned)
Between being threatened with bankrupcy if I didnt join the mormons and AIDS if I didnt join the JWs, life was not dull...
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