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To: SkyPilot
Is this all you got? This is your best?

No, it's not all I've got, and why would I want to give my best when all you can do is throw out inane implications?

Well, well, well. One of us only seems to have insults and ad hominem (attacks ("buffoon") in their little trick bag, and it isn't me.

You're right, I wasn't debating the (ahem) merits of your argument.

That's because you're acting like a buffoon.

Pathetic.

Agreed.

Let's get back to the premise that threw you so off balance in the first place that you chose to come after me.

Off balance? Hardly.

Coming after you? Umm... no. It's a simple observation: you're acting like a buffoon.

Mormonism is a cult.

You know, you Mormon-bashers really need to get some new material. This is playing just about as well as the "Bush is a Nazi" meme.

The Mormon Cult: The Truth about Mormons and Christianity

Yay! The "truth", as told by those who either a) have never set foot in a Mormon church or b) got their feelings hurt when they were Mormons, so it's all a lie now.

Be sure to include links to:

The Protestant Heretics: The Truth About Methodists, Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, etc. (written by Catholics)

The Catholic Damned: The Truth About Catholics and The Bible (written by two Pentecostal ministers and a Baptist Deacon)

...and don't forget the best one:

Jews are Swine and Their Christian Friends Must Die: The Truth About Everyone Who Is Not Muslim

366 posted on 11/24/2008 12:05:31 PM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: TChris
That's because you're acting like a buffoon.

Boy, talk about a "One Note Johnny." I would have thought you would have at least come up with different personal attack words.

Coming after you? Umm... no. It's a simple observation: you're acting like a buffoon.

See above.

You know, you Mormon-bashers really need to get some new material. This is playing just about as well as the "Bush is a Nazi" meme.

One fatal flaw in your analogy: Mormonism, when honestly examined against the facts, meets the definition of a cult to the letter. If you had bothered to even read that link instead of your response of "hand waving" then you might be enlightened. But, that might be too upsetting to you. Next, "Bush is a Nazi" is not supported by the facts and you know it. Apparently, you think by taking a legitimate claim, that Mormonism is a cult, and comparing it to something outrageous and nonsensical you make the case that anything that opposed you and Mormonism is hysterical and illogical. Nice try, but it doesn't hold water. It is a blatantly transparent attempt at obfuscation and distraction, and one we see often on this board.

Then, you include links that include words such as Jews are Swine and Their Christian Friends Must Die, which is more of the same from above. I guess you figure that if you throw out enough mud, everyone gets dirty and no one will get to the truth.

Here is another link that I suppose you won't read either. It doesn't the bombastic titles of yours, just a logical and thought provoking argument. I can see why it may terrify you.

A logical proof that Mormonism is false

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Mormonism teaches that God used to be a man on another world and that he became a god (this is called exaltation) and came to this world with his goddess wife. He was able to become a god because he followed the laws and ordinances of the god he served on another world. That god in turn was exalted by his god, who was exalted by his god, ad infinitum. In other words, there is a progression of gods being formed as far back as you look in time.
Truth does not contradict itself. If I gave two statements about a subject and the two statements contradicted each other, then you would know something was wrong. The law of non contradiction states that something cannot be both true and false in the same sense at the same time. In other words, truth does not contradict itself. This is basic logic. That which is true is internally consistent and contains no logical impossibilities. If something does contain a logical impossibility, then it cannot be true.
Mormonism teaches an infinite regression of causes. This means that it teaches that each god was made a god by a previous god. This means that as far back as you look in time, this process has always been occurring. This means that from an infinity of time in the past, the Mormon plan of exaltation (become gods) has been in effect. The only problem is that this is logically impossible. Since it is logically impossible, this means that Mormonism is false. Let's look closer.
There cannot be an infinite regression of causes. It is logically impossible. Why? Because you can not cross an infinity. In other words, in order for us to get to the present state of this god on this planet, there would have had to be an infinite number of exaltations in the past. But, this cannot be because in order to get to the present, you would have to transverse an infinity of exaltations and that is impossible since you cannot transverse an infinity -- if you could cross (transverse) an infinity of time, then it isn't infinite. Therefore, the Mormon system of infinite regressions of exaltations to godhood is impossible and Mormonism is proven false. Simple.
However, Mormons will not give in to a logical proof since their testimonies are not based on facts, but on what they claim is a testimony of the Holy Spirit. Of course, all cult groups have testimonies that their church is true (proving that testimonies are contradictory and untrustworthy as a means to determining truth). Nevertheless, they are taught to "feel" theological truth, not think it through.

How then do they respond to this logical proof that Mormonism is false? Normally they say that it is a mystery. Mysteries are fine, but they cannot suffice as an explanation if they contradict logic. In other words, if a principle is blatantly illogically, it cannot be true. Did you get that? It cannot be true. Saying it is a mystery means nothing if the proclamation of that mystery violates the laws of logic. Mormonism is proven false.

367 posted on 11/24/2008 1:13:05 PM PST by SkyPilot
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