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No Room for RINOs
Wall St Journal ^ | 11-19-08 | Brendan Minitor

Posted on 11/18/2008 9:25:42 PM PST by Wegotsarah.com

South Carolina's Mark Sanford is one of three GOP governors now being widely mentioned as potential saviors of the Republican Party between now and 2012. All are conspicuous for calling on their own party to live up to its principles. Most notably, none have advocated the GOP move to the left.

Mr. Sanford is a two-term governor known for vetoing spending bills, pushing market-oriented policy reforms (such as moving his state's Medicaid system to a private account-based model) and criticizing the lapses of the national GOP. "Some on the left will say our electoral losses are a repudiation of our principles of lower taxes, smaller government and individual liberty," he wrote on CNN.com after this month's elections. "But Tuesday was not in fact a rejection of those principles -- it was a rejection of Republicans' failure to live up to those principles."

In the same op-ed he took a swing at Alaska Republican Sen. Ted Stevens, identifying him as someone who "personifies what went wrong in the election. . . He was a proud champion of pork barrel spending and bridges to nowhere and stayed so long that he developed a blind eye to ethical lapses that would be readily seen by scout leaders and soccer moms alike."

Two other leading lights for a troubled GOP are Govs. Sarah Palin of Alaska and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. Before she became John McCain's running mate, Mrs. Palin was best known for challenging her own state GOP to cure its spendthrift, corrupt ways. She unseated a sitting mayor in her first bid for office and became a giant killer by knocking off the high-handed, free-spending Gov. Frank Murkowski in a Republican primary.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; mcbama; mccaintruthfile; mcqueeg; newgop; rebuilding; rino; rinohunting; rinopurge; rinos; sanford; sc2008
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To: aliquando
The rino’s gave up control themselves, by spending like a bunch of drunks and going down the Democrat lite road.
21 posted on 11/18/2008 10:11:39 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

The moderates had the perfect opportunity with mccain to ‘reform’ the GOP and they blew it. Forget it. After 4 years of Obama, the country will be running to the conservative even if he doesn’t believe in global warming, evolution or ‘compassionate conservatism.’


22 posted on 11/18/2008 10:12:15 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Baynative
tick, tick, tick ...time is up. Did you name one? Maybe two?

In congress, can I get back to you on that next week????

23 posted on 11/18/2008 10:13:59 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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To: ari-freedom
more than just fiscal conservatives sat on their hands. some day i hope to see who and why. more and more peeps on FR coming out and saying they did not vote or wrote in a candidate. though none have clarified the reason.
we can laugh or be disgusted by the libs that were uninformed and clearly clueless about who and what obama was, but at least they can be “informed” those in our own party that did not vote did so with a wealth of knowledge about obama, knowing full well what a obama presidency would do to America and they chose to do nothing any way... there are times i think we are our own worst enemy:(
24 posted on 11/18/2008 10:15:08 PM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: eclecticEel

I understand completely. Palin made him more tolerable, not anywhere near acceptable. However, the alternative that we now face is unthinkable.


25 posted on 11/18/2008 10:16:47 PM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI

well there were conservatives who were against the war. Also, mccain was looking good in the polls until the bailout. He looked like he didn’t know what he was doing and therefore not fit to be CiC.


26 posted on 11/18/2008 10:21:44 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: dhuynh73
I have respect for Gov. Mark Sanford, Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin and Rick Perry. These are the people who will lead us through these very difficult time in our nation.

You might want to reconsider Rick Perry, he ordered all girls sixth grade and above to submit to STD vaccine, and came down on the wrong side of the Trans Texas Corridor. He is no more conservative than his predecessor.

27 posted on 11/18/2008 10:25:27 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

BMFL.


28 posted on 11/18/2008 10:27:03 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Take that, Kathleen Parker. And don’t let it smack your behind on the way out.


29 posted on 11/18/2008 10:40:30 PM PST by Scothia (Sarah! Anyone else would Palin comparison.)
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To: ari-freedom
i forgot about the anti war peeps. still dont get that. obama is simply moving the players around the middle east field, he is not “ending the war” either.
his views on Israel and the nervousness over there as a result may very well start ww3!
i have only met a few peeps that did not vote or wrote in a vote. they were mad their guy did not make it, and refused to “reward” the republican party with their vote (which is equivalent to lopping off your head to save you nose) and one who saw little difference between mccain or obama. i still can not wrap my brain around that one.

either way those that were ignorant, who voted because obama was not a republican or because he was black take some blame, for stupidity, but what our own peeps did was out of spite...

30 posted on 11/18/2008 10:41:54 PM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: Baynative
This is why the republican party is in trouble. Most conservatives are republicans because we have nowhere else to go.

Personally I think its time for a divorce. Republican can mean Ronald Reagan to Lincoln Chaffee. The party is meaningless. Democraps however mean everything from lying to Treason. Its time to define us as 1 party, a Conservative Party. A party that no Rockefeller could hope to join. Where there are not Swartzeneggars, Bushes or Snowes or Grahams or McCains! Hard core Reaganite Conservatives, period! This is a 3rd party that could put a stake in the Republican party and get rid of it! I'm tired of the different flavors of this party!

31 posted on 11/18/2008 10:43:56 PM PST by Bommer ( Republican Party - RIP!)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

Well until we stop allowing Iowa and New Hampshire picking our candidates, we really can’t say that now can we. That is what needs to change not who WE WANT. I found that out the hard way this year big time!!!


32 posted on 11/18/2008 11:01:40 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Wegotsarah.com

There’s plenty of room for RINOs.

...stuffed and mounted on the wall next to the gazelles.


33 posted on 11/18/2008 11:02:42 PM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: KoRn

I wish Sanford would run against Grahamnesty in the next primary!

Are you talking 2014???? Grahamnesty was just reelected...very sadly!!!


34 posted on 11/18/2008 11:03:58 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Ingtar

“His Palin pick helped with all but Catholics.”

I think the Palin pick hurt most with Jews. Most American Jews are secular, not religious. They fear evangelicals more than islamists. Before the Palin pick, Obama was polling around 60%, but exit polling showed he pulled 76% of the Jewish vote.

Still, I think Gov. Palin was an exciting addition to the ticket who increased the base turnout. Without her it would have been a bigger blowout for Obama .... 52% isn’t exactly a landslide. Especially given the $$$ advantage he had (from sources unknown).

Both Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin made one major mistake with the financial meltdown ... blaming it all on the greed of Wall Street without setting out that “Wall Street” is far more Dem friendly than Republican, and the “Masters of the Universe” were the second largest donors by profession to Obama. McCain/Palin never properly articulated the Freddie/Fannie situation and the Dems promotion of NINJA loans and extortion of the banking/mortgage institutions.

Historically, for any Republican to win this year would have been abberant. In the last century only once did the party that held the White House for eight years win, and that was GHWB following very popular Reagan.


35 posted on 11/18/2008 11:19:02 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Ingtar

She helped with Devout Catholics probably.


36 posted on 11/19/2008 12:52:11 AM PST by SMCC1
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To: aliquando
"Would you give up control of congress or allow RINOS? Sorry, I have to play the devil’s advocate. I’m not sure I know the answer to the question myself. I’ll go sleep on it."

It's a good question, but the answer is not that cut-and-dry.

Basically, there is a role for RINOs in the GOP - in hard blue states. For example, as much as I personally cannot stand them, Olympia Snowe and her idiot twin Collins are the best you are going to get in Maine, so you leave them alone. Let them vote left when it doesn't matter - when you need their votes, the party applies the screws to make sure it happens.

This is exactly what the Rats did to get control. Think about it: Bob Casey in PA, Jim Webb in VA, etc. All ran on conservative issues, but will be there to vote with the Rats when their votes are needed.

What needs to change is the following:

1) The GOP is a conservative party, and will not apologize for it or equivicate/pander with those who do not agree. RINOs are welcome, as long as they understand our core principles are not negotiable. Any future attempts to "water down" the core principles will get them tossed.

2) Where we need to do is attack the RINOs mercilessly in RED states. They need to be challenged in primaries at every opportunity and ultimately purged from the party.

Here is a good short RINO-hunting list:

McCrazy-AZ

His girlfriend, Lindsay Grahamnesty-SC

Dick Luger-IN

Kay Bailey Hitchison-TX

Folks on the thread can feel free to add their own list of red state RINOs that need to be primaried out of office. Two of the head RINOs, John Warner (VA) and Al-Qaeda's buddy Chuck Hagel (NE) have already been dispatched, to the GOP's betterment.

That is a good start, but there is much more work to be done before President Palin, Sanford or Jindal takes office on 1/20/13.

39 posted on 11/19/2008 7:29:13 AM PST by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: ari-freedom
hope they enjoy obama’s tax increases

You mean the ones that McCain will probably vote "aye" on?

After all, he publicly said that he will work with Obama to "fix" the United States.

40 posted on 11/19/2008 5:06:07 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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