Posted on 11/16/2008 3:05:24 PM PST by neverdem
Yes, that was great! Love it.....
Well said, Ingtar.
A clean environment.
Less-expensive "renewable" energy.
Improving the bottom line through more efficient use.
There is nothing wrong with any of these. As long as you don't try to have too much too soon. That way lies disaster.
I don't have my source materials here, but some of the "green" (i.e. LEED) buildings are horrible energy-wasters, far worse than the median of like buildings in the U.S. Why? Because they optimized for things like "local sources," "re-use," "alternative transportation," and other things that get them LEED ratings -- and yet, through their energy inefficiencies result in MORE CO2 going into the atmosphere, not less. It is this kind of politically-driven silliness that makes me think that "conservative" and "green" should remain apart.
Great, the table has two sides, the “extreme left repeal the industrial revolution and let’s all live in caves” and the “far left - let’s raise the price of energy so high nobody can afford to heat their homes or travel.” This is a classical Hobson’s choice, if you ask me. There are NO conservatives at the table effectively arguing the entire thing is grand hoax designed to have governments grab more control of our everyday lives and enrich government coffers at citizens’ expense.
I thought the earlier reason he had was better: Newt is a limp wristed pansy.
Who supports Bob Barr that is criticizing Newt? From what I saw, he had almost no support here at FR. Shouldn't one be allowed to criticize anyone who promotes this myth? (Gore, Obama, Newt, Schwarzenegger, McCain, etc)
Bob Barr is irrelevant to the discussion, IMO.
*Aren’t scientists who publish false data punished
by their peers?*
The problem they are mostly one in the same.
There are some brave scientists who speak out and write books, but very few.
I have the books,”The Really Inconvenient Truths” by Iain Murray, “Cool It, The Skeptical Evnironmentalist’s Guide to Global Warming” ny Bjorn Lomborg - a young Dane.
and other books exposing this issue.
With the media bent the other way, they don’t get a platform to speak out.
When he first made known that he was up for the job of RNC chairman, i gave it a moment of thought. But I lied down for a minute and got over it.
The “Global warming” hype is a completely unnecessary scam.
We can eliminate any contribution by men to “global warming’ and make clear that world socialistic centralized command government control is utterly unnecessary.
Here is one glaring example. America has been increasing its forestation though programs such as tax-incentivized tree farming and the growing of timber as a commercial crop on a long-term basis since a high point of timber destruction without replacement sometime around the beginning of the last century. By contrast countries that we don’t hold accountable are being allowed to slash and burn for crops. Harrison Ford has done public interest ads to point this out but the left does not want to hear.
Newt’s just another typical “go along to get along” Republican that’s been killing this party.
Journeying through today's political landscape is very akin to walking through a barnyard. Identifying B-—S—T early is a necessity. A handy indicator has always been the party espousing a particular view. In the last few years, it has become increasingly difficult, because of the very poor decisions being made by those claiming to be Conservative.
Developing A healthy sense of skepticism is useful.
The problem is, Newt didn't make the distinction in the ad, from what I've seen. And the distinction will never effectively be made standing shoulder to shoulder with the communist Pelosi. Bad plan, badly executed, and why I wouldn't support Newt as a presidential candidate. Newt talks great, knows his history, is a smart guy, but is unreliable as a conservative leader. This ad merely points that out.
Newt, the only right way to have done this would have been to wait until Nasty was speaking, and then loudly cut the cheese.
Well said. Thanks rock58seg. Son of a share cropper. Wow. You have seen a lot more of this world than I have and I respect your opinion and thoughts. Thanks again.
“Green conservatisism”? Does this couple with his new found “tri-partisanship” and Bush’s “compassionate conservatism”? Screw him.
The ‘94 lovers can live in the past if they wish, this man as he exists today is no friend to conservatism.
Sorry Newt — I’m not buying that “explanation”....
You pimped yourself to the wrong side...
To make it worse - they are demonstrably wrong on the science and their agenda will totally wreck the economy without a chance of accomplishing anything to “save the world”...
Giving the global warming hoax any credence is a mistake. Newt is wrong again.
No, Newt, conservatives think "global warming" is a hoax and this "debate" is bullshit - something with which you must be intimately familiar - and so we refuse to dignify it with a response.
It'd be like arguing theology with a pig.
Newt has overstayed his welcome... Newt is so “over.” Newt, please go away and stop trying to make us all work together Kumbaya style. You let us down once (well, more than once) so just remain in “retirement.”
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