Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.
The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
Factcheck.org is run by the Annenberg Public Policy Center. The Annenberg Public Policy Center was founded by Walter Annenberg, a very good Republican. (Note the picture at the link of the Annenbergs greeting President Reagan.
Of course, I've been told here that none of the above matters because factcheck.org is an allegedly liberal organization so all the information there doesn't matter even though factcheck.org is cited by candidates from both sides, Democrat and Republican. McCain mentioned factcheck.org in one of the debates. (I believe he called it factcheck.com in error.)
The birth certificate not withstanding, the birth announcement from 1961 cinches it for me. Unless there was some kind of conspiracy 47 years ago between the doctors, the state of Hawaii, the local newspaper and others to conceal Obama's real place of birth, I don't think there's much more to be said.
I think it’s very possible that Barack Sr. is not the father. Given the fact that Frank Marshall Davis was a part of his mother’s life, it’s very possible that he could be the father and either Barack Sr. was unaware or chose to accept Barack as his own son.
However, I don’t think this helps any of the lawsuits, but has the opposite effect. The only argument then would be that Barack was legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro.
I don’t think it is healthy for our democracy to constantly have these unresolved currents of intrigue swirling around our political milieu.
And now we are told to expect the “most transparent transition” in history.
In the interest of transparency, could we please see all relevant documents? Or is what should be our right to know over-ruled by a mesmerized mob?
Obama looks just like the X!
“If in fact they are identical, then producing it should be no problem. 0 should present it to all involved in these lawsuits, and save himself and us the time, money, and aggravation involved in the fight.”
I explained everything and it’s as though you didn’t read my comments.
So any time even two or four people lie, it’s a conspiracy?
Okay, so Obama is a conspirator because he is hiding his birth certificate for reason or reasons unknown, and at least a couple of people probably know why. Probably Ayers and Axelrod, Michelle and maybe a few more. Lots in Kenya but they don’t count because the one person who went over there to find out stuff - Corsi - got rough treatment. No one else seems to be volunteering.
You do know that “conspiracy” is a loaded word and anyone who “believes” (or in the case of all these threads, thinks there might be some fire underneath all the smoke) in a “conspiracy” is immediately tainted with wingnutism. That’s why people toss that word about.
I’m done trying to explain this to you.
Okay, someone else using “Factcheck/Annenberg” as a source!
jamese777 - are you or are you not aware of the FactCheck/Annenberg connection to Ayers and Obama?
Seriously though, how many people could tell an employer to look online for verification of any pertinent info?
I don’t know where Obama was born and that’s the issue I have with the matter. Instead of producing undeniable proof, he tries to get the cases dismissed on lack of standing and his “people” say the original certificate could be “embarrassing” for Obama. If he produced a birth certificate listing hospital/doctor/etc. that was verified by an independent source, I would accept it as true. But that COLB looks like something I could do on Photoshop and I’m not even that creative.
As far as the birth announcement, given the fact that his family lived in Hawaii, I don’t see that as anything proving it one way or the other.
And how do we know that? Because they said so? Then let's see that paper.
Have you read what Calpernia said about the birth announcement? It’s mentioned up the thread in one of her comments. Sheesh - no microfiche, only a photocopy, looks doctored, and the address is completely unverifiable regarding connection with any of the principles, and anyone can call up the newspaper with birth info. The announcement is the least solid of any evidence of proof of where he was actually born.
The birth certificate not withstanding, the birth announcement from 1961 cinches it for me. Unless there was some kind of conspiracy 47 years ago between the doctors, the state of Hawaii, the local newspaper and others to conceal Obama’s real place of birth, I don’t think there’s much more to be said...
I do not have the announcements in front of me. But as I remember them. None said he was born in Hawaii just that he was born to Stanley on a certain date.
If his mom went to Kenya, had Obama there and came back to Hawaii and the family lived in Hawaii, the grandmother could have put them in the paper just like you can put a wedding announcement in the paper to let the locals know that her daughter had a baby.
Anyway, who the heck is he that he cannot be imposed upon to produce his 1961 original birth certificate to be POTUS. Just defines the man as a real deceitful person. Just the type we want next to the Nuclear button.
Anyone who has risen to the position of consideration and nomination by either of the two major political parties is beyond and above any law or scrutiny to which mere mortals are subjected.
They are just better and more important than the rank and file garden-variety American.
Isn’t that special?
No one ever stated that he does not possess a birth certificate. What Obama refuses to release is his original, long form birth certificate. Hawaii dept of health officials have only stated that he has a legitamate BC on file, but have stopped short of divulging any details of this document - namely the exact location, hospital, and any other amendments to this original document that could shed light with regards to his past Indonesion citizenship status. Furthermore, Hawaii dept of health officials CANNOT legally divulge any personal details to the public about any original long form BC on file. They have no such authority to question or inform with regards to someone’s elligibility to serve as POTUS. Only a court of law can request such info and make such judgements.
From a legal point of view, the words “Place of Birth”: “Honolulu”, “County of Birth”: “Honolulu” “Island of Birth”: “Oahu” and “date of birth;” “August 4, 1961” are all that are relevant. Those words appear on the Certification of Live Birth...
Nice try. Look at your own birth certificate it has the name of the hospital and signed by the doctor/midwife.
The original in 1961 would be typewritten and copied on microfiche not a digital media file.
The One is going to be President of the Universe. It matters little where he was born or that he looks like the X! Harry doesn’t look like Prince Charles. He looks just like the guy Diana had the affair with.
Certain secrets get kept for the good of the world it seems.
Just common observation:Granny Madelyn/Hawaii was kept in a lock box or not willing to speak (shame???) about grandson!
Apparently MO and children not including with Hussein's visits, hmmmm. Seems to me some racial tension there. OTH Granny Sarah/Kenya in video and audio interviews with African missionaries adamantly claim he is born in Kenya and that she was present when delivered, and she is mighty proud of that, hmmm!!
Also no photos with Granny Madelyn has been published since his HS graduation!!!
Is she still hold in refrigerated morgue, waiting for his attendance at the funeral???
so, are we ready for Biden to take the seat instead of BO (I love calling him that!) ?
The whole website and all of its users? Based on one or two people mentioning Malcolm X?
Calling him, THE ONE, never really made much sense... until now. As far fetched as people may say it is, I certainly can see how a conspiracy (involving Hawaii, with their birth record laws) is plaucible.
Violence and riots I can deal with, one way or another. Corruption of officials who ignore constitutional law that is not convenient for them from the bottom all the way to the POTUS is what scares me most.
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