Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.
The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
Keyes was brought in after Zero’s minions had destroyed several opponents in both the primary and the general election. No one in Illinois could have survived the tactics of personal destruction he was practiced at.
SCOTUS has power to order FED Marshalls and FBI?
Wouldn’t that have to come from the Executive Branch - Bush?
Our guy is blacker than their guy.
“The slate of electors could vote for whomever they wish. Enter Hillary stage right.”
Here are the most likely scenarios:
1. Pre-Electoral College
2. Post-Electoral College, Pre-Inauguration
3. Post-Inauguration
Per the Constitution, each Elector is technically able to cast a vote for anyone they want.
However, under the current system, 24 states have faithless elector laws that punish electors for NOT voting for whom they have pledged and SCOTUS has ruled these laws to be legal ... at least on the first ballot.
IMPORTANT POINT: There are 538 + 538 = 1076 possible electors (counting ONLY DEM and GOP in this exercise - there are actually many more).
Obama currently leads something like 350-188. However, if anyones electors are DQd, they are replaced with the runner-ups electors.
1. Presumbaly, if SCOTUS DQd Obama prior to the Electoral College, his slate of electors would be DQd and replaced with the slate of the runner-up (McCain). McCain would be POTUS. (Constitution - Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 3).
SCOTUS would then have to rule if Bidens electors (the same ones that were DQd for Obama) were qualified. They MIGHT do that. If so, Biden would LIKELY be VP. This MIGHT play out since POTUS and VP are voted separately and Biden is qualified to hold office (Constitution - 12th Amendment).
If not, Bidens electors would be DQd (like Obamas), his slate of electors would be DQd and replaced with the slate of the runner-up (Palin). Palin would be VP.
Or, SCOTUS could order a new election.
2. Presumably, if Obama was DQd AFTER the Electoral College, Biden would become POTUS-Elect and remain so until a qualifed POTUS could be chosen. If Jan. 20th came and went. Biden would be POTUS - at least for a while. (Constitution - 20th Amendment).
If SCOTUS ruled that the election was null and void, based upon a perpetration of a fraud, scenario #1 (above) would likely come into play.
Or a new election could be ordered.
3. If Obama was sworn in, and then DQd, Biden would become POTUS, at least for a while. He would then install his own VP, with Senate confirmation, of course. (Constitution - 25th Amendment).
However, if SCOTUS ruled the election null and void, scenario #1 COULD come into play again.
Or a new election could be ordered.
AND, lets NOT forget Hillary ... She MIGHT be able to get a new election ordered at any time in this process - claiming that her 14th Amendment rights were violated on the basis of fraud. She WOULD have been the DEM nominee, if not for Obama. However, I dont think this bucket holds water.
What’s sad is that it actually was a good idea at the time. A merit-based system. But because ideology poisoned the well, it turned a good idea into an immoveable leftist bureaucracy. Fact is, with the incoming regime, it’s almost impossible (under a spoils system) that the people he’d bring in would be any different than what’s already there now.
Although not a federal example, in Kentucky, which hadn’t elected a Republican administration from 1967 until 2003, it was (no surprise) filled to the brim with Democrat hacks that were not loyal to the new administration and were seeking to undermine it. The new Governor tried to do something about it and fired some of the hacks. When he did, the Attorney-General, a crooked Democrat hack himself, spent the rest of his term trying to bring charges against the Governor for firing Democrats (little better than a coup d’etat). The neverending attacks (fanned by the media) damaged the Governor to the point that he was defeated for reelection. When the new Democrat came in (with yet another new Democrat AG), no doubt he installed his own people, and we’ve heard nary a peep again over the issue.
Similar in Alabama when the GOP elected a Governor in 1986 for the first time since Reconstruction and he was reelected in 1990. The Lieutenant Governor and AG, both sleazy Democrats, conspired to cook up phony charges against the Governor and run him out of office. They found some, and they did. But in this case, it backfired and both the “new” Governor and AG were voted out. That new GOP AG, the first since Reconstruction, was none other than Jeff Sessions, one of our best Senators today.
No, he was elected by the Electoral College (or he will be, after December 15), and has every right to his office.
Not if he’s sworn in and then found ineligible. He will have to resign or be impeached. The people will not stand for such an egregious violation of our constitution.
Perhaps you should leave those of us with a concern about a fundamental Constitutional issue alone and go spread your joy elsewhere.
The very fact there are numerous Court cases already filed and efforts to get to the bottom of this shows something IS happening. Hence, this issue is not evaporating and the longer Zero refuses to defuse it the more it will be known.
This was raised against McCain and he presented sufficient documentation to shut up his accusers. Then the RAT Senate gratuituously and superfilousless gave him its blessing while trying to sneak in a clause claiming naturalized citizens were eligible.
Why is there all this supicious activity around this when it could be waved away with a valid BC?
“Check the Hawaii Dept. of Health website. There are a select few who can request someones birth certificate. A very narrow list.”
See my Post #359.
I'm talking about Biden.
Biden is (or will be) a legitimately elected Constitutional officer of the United States and has every right to occupy the Vice Presidency (or to serve as acting President) as of January 20, 2009.
The Senate it seems would not be able to change the Constitution by inserting the ‘naturalized citizen’ clause into this legislation. Changing the Constitution would involve ratification by the States?
Hate to burst your beautiful bubble but Biden was appointed by the Democrat party.
“Only after the Electors vote might it require impeachment.”
See my Post #385.
It would be such a treat if Keyes actually succeeded in his suit. Obama was very hostile towards him.
“It’s no crisis. He becomes disqualified. The VP of the winning ticket becomes the President.
Say hello to President Biden.
The Democrat party. The gift that keeps on giving, like STD.”
See my Post #385.
Exactly.
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The Holy Grail has been keep in Ted Kennedy’s liquor cabinet for decades. It will be washed and filled with Cool aid for the mighty Messiah Barack Obama.
I think a great part of his motivation is the abortion issue.
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