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To: Drew68
“Do you seriously think there was no fraud and the election was won fair and square?
Sure, there was some voter fraud but c’mon, Obama won by nearly 8.5 million votes! It wasn't all fraudulent. We need to own up to the fact that we lost some important demographics this time around. This “It wasn't our fault! We wuz robbed!” mentality isn't going to win us any future elections. It is pathetic and deserving of scorn.

I never said Republicans “blew it”...nor did the millions who voted for Sarah.

Well, you haven't been here long enough to have seen the outrage on this forum as Republicans gradually compromised their principles and McCain became the heir apparent. And sure, Palin energized a lot of the base but by then it was too little, too late. We'd already lost white professionals. In the end with Palin trying to carry McCain to the finish line, it was obvious to everyone that the guy just didn't really want to be president.

We preach a lot about personal responsibility on this site. Some people here need to practice it and stop trying to pass off the blame.”

THE FAULT HERE LIES WITH THE MSM!!!

They gave a PASS to Obama at EVERY turn, while if McCain or Palin farted into the wind, the MSM was calling for congressional investigations.

The American public has a RIGHT to ALL information (except personal) that would allow them to make informed choices.

Do you SERIOUSLY think that 20% of the GOP voters and a substantial number of conservative DEMS would have voted for Obama if they knew about Wright, Ayers, etc.

AND, if there is any credence to the BC issue?

475 posted on 11/14/2008 8:09:13 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

“THE FAULT HERE LIES WITH THE MSM!!!
They gave a PASS to Obama at EVERY turn, while if McCain or Palin farted into the wind, the MSM was calling for congressional investigations.
The American public has a RIGHT to ALL information (except personal) that would allow them to make informed choices.
Do you SERIOUSLY think that 20% of the GOP voters and a substantial number of conservative DEMS would have voted for Obama if they knew about Wright, Ayers, etc.
AND, if there is any credence to the BC issue?”

I agree and evidence is overwhelming that very many Americans knew nothing about Ayers, Wright, or that there was even a question about Obama’s constitutional requirements being met. Just now they are beginning to learn a little about Ayers and that is being carefully presended as “just nothing”.


566 posted on 11/15/2008 6:09:12 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Lmo56
“Do you seriously think there was no fraud and the election was won fair and square?

Sure, there was some voter fraud but c’mon, Obama won by nearly 8.5 million votes! It wasn't all fraudulent. We need to own up to the fact that we lost some important demographics this time around. This “It wasn't our fault! We wuz robbed!” mentality isn't going to win us any future elections. It is pathetic and deserving of scorn.


The point you are missing is that McCain didnt need to win 8.5 million votes to win the Presidency. No one said he would win California and NY where the margins were in the millions. He lost the swing states by a total of LESS than ONE million votes. He lost FL, IA, OH, PA, NC, and VA by a grand total 993 thousand votes. Thats less than 1% of the voters that decided this election. All McCain had to do was win 25% of the 4 million extra votes Bush got in 2004. Bush got 62 million votes, McCain got 58 million. I find it extremely fishy that McCain didnt get at least 62 million votes. McCain is WAY better than Bush, and more honorable, and he got LESS votes than Bush did in 2004?? I dont buy it. What happened to the supposed 20 million new registered voters?? This election showcased only 4 million more voters than 2004. Just look at Minnesota where ALL the extra votes being found are for Franken, NOT ONE has been found for Coleman since Nov. 4th. Thats impossible beyond all statistical probabilities.
577 posted on 11/15/2008 8:09:41 AM PST by ajent oranje
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