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Analysts: McCain doomed from start
UPI ^

Posted on 11/09/2008 11:36:20 AM PST by WilliamReading

PHOENIX, Nov. 9 (UPI) -- Republican U.S. Sen. John McCain lost his bid for the White House mainly because anti-incumbent fury doomed him from the start, analysts say.

McCain made many missteps, but they didn't matter much because it was clear no Republican stood much of a chance in the 2008 election with voters overwhelmingly blaming President George Bush and the GOP for the nation's problems, The Arizona Republic reported Sunday.

McCain, who represents Arizona in the Senate, lost to Democratic opponent Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois last week in an electoral college landslide. He never stood a realistic chance, said Alberto Gutier, a longtime Phoenix Republican activist and McCain supporter.

"Everything was going to go the wrong way for the Republicans, in general, because of the negatives that President Bush had," he said. "When you combine the war, the economy, the gas prices -- it's a hell of a thing."

"Our polls and national polls showed that most people by a 2-to-1 margin blamed Bush and the Republicans more than the Democrats for getting us into the mess, and they believed that Obama was more likely to get us out of it," Bruce Merrill, a veteran Arizona pollster, told the Republic.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2008; bho2008; doomed; issues; mccain; postmortem
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To: WilliamReading
As long as the Dow Jones Industrial Average was at 8600 on Election Day, the Republicans were going to lose the election.

Only in the voodoo world where the Dow is god, if insane had stood against the bailout he probably would have won are made a lot better showing.

21 posted on 11/09/2008 11:44:28 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: WilliamReading

The election was over on 09/15/08.


22 posted on 11/09/2008 11:44:28 AM PST by Perdogg (Gov Sarah Palin - President 2012)
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To: BGHater

Well, if McCain could have talked up the Dow Jones up to 12,000 or higher, I am sure he would have won, hands down.


23 posted on 11/09/2008 11:44:43 AM PST by WilliamReading
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To: Jeff Chandler

Democrats raised millions more money starting in 2004; Republicans in the House and Senate stood by while the Iraq War became Bush’s war in the media. Bush allowed the press to descimate him AND his party. You say it was orchestrated from the beginning? Yup, but our side sure made it easy.


24 posted on 11/09/2008 11:45:18 AM PST by Galtoid ( .)
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To: WilliamReading
A fair media coverage of the election would of changed the course. also the collapse of the sub prime market also made a difference. Of course Georgie boy played a decisive influence as well. But if just one of these things would have been different the election would of been different as well. All we needed was one of them.
25 posted on 11/09/2008 11:45:24 AM PST by bilhosty
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To: org.whodat

Next time you get a chance, look at your IRA. On second thought, better not.


26 posted on 11/09/2008 11:45:29 AM PST by WilliamReading
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To: Diogenesis
America will suffer deeply because of Romney’s treason.

And we are not forgetting any time soon!

27 posted on 11/09/2008 11:45:30 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: org.whodat

On the contrary the base did vote for him. It as the moderate indpendents we lost.


28 posted on 11/09/2008 11:46:17 AM PST by bilhosty
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To: misterrob

Wake up.
It was not Romney’s religion that did this. It was Romney’s backstabbing, Romney’s viciousness.
There was innuendo after innuendo, just like Romney and his servants went after the GOP candidates.

Romney even deserted the Mass.GOP requiring Sen.Thompson to go and help the GOP against Kerry.


29 posted on 11/09/2008 11:46:51 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: WilliamReading
As long as the Dow Jones Industrial Average was at 8600 on Election Day, the Republicans were going to lose the election.

Some Freepers had an answer for this. See .How Much More Change Can We Stand?

30 posted on 11/09/2008 11:47:29 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (How much money has your 401K lost since the Democrats took Congress?)
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To: WilliamReading
Republican U.S. Sen. John McCain lost his bid for the White House mainly because anti-incumbent fury doomed him from the start, analysts say”

“Analysts” huh?
Did these analysts also remember that McCain was actually ahead by 3% at RCP a week after the RNC convention, when Gov Palin energized the Republican base, and they had exposed what an empty suit Obambi was?
And do they also recall that the McCain's slide started with the massive stock market meltdown?
Not to mention McCain totally suspending his campaign (even as Obambi bought up all the freed McCain TV ad slots), and then going on to vote for a very unpopular bailout bill.
McCain didn't really want to win. He was very successful in that.

31 posted on 11/09/2008 11:47:32 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: WilliamReading
Republican U.S. Sen. John McCain lost his bid for the White House mainly because anti-incumbent fury doomed him from the start, analysts say.

No, the reason was America has a illiterate electorate regarding the Constitution, economics, history and current events (Besides celebrity and mass media propaganda).

All one has to do is ask which specific Executive Order did Bush sign that started this mess. Let us get to the root of the problem, not excuses for the problem.
32 posted on 11/09/2008 11:47:38 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: WilliamReading

What they don’t say is, as a moderate who “reached across the aisle”, McCain failed to excite the Republican base, who in turn declined to write big checks. As a result he had no choice but to rely on public funding, with the results that he was vastly outspent.


33 posted on 11/09/2008 11:47:43 AM PST by bigbob
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To: WilliamReading
PHOENIX, Nov. 9 (UPI) -- Republican U.S. Sen. John McCain lost his bid for the White House mainly because anti-incumbent fury doomed him from the start, analysts say.

Yes, I have to agree that Democrats have been brainwashing people for eight years now that GW Bush "stole" the election from Gore.

34 posted on 11/09/2008 11:47:55 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: BGHater

The mood of too many people in the country was that government can help.

The bailout was a bad plan. There could have been money appropriated to support good banks and also rules changes on valuing assets, write downs, etc..

Until the bad assets are off the books and people take their lumps there can be no bottom.


35 posted on 11/09/2008 11:48:05 AM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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To: Jeff Chandler
President Bush's poll numbers have been dismal ever since Katrina--if he had played that in a politically smart way, like Bill Clinton would have, he might have actually gained popularity from it. He refrained from putting the blame where most of it belonged--on the Democrat governor and mayor and on the Democrat local officials who had failed to make the levees strong enough.

Likewise with the financial meltdown--the Republicans didn't try to put the blame where it belonged. The public didn't know what to think and was willing to believe the Democrats' accusation that it was Bush's fault.

Little was made of national security this year--as if our enemies are going to stop trying to destroy us just because an apostate Muslim is President. Out of highmindedness, Bush never made an issue of Clinton's refusal to take Obama from the Sudan when they offered to hand him over--and in return, had Hillary waving a newspaper headline on the floor of the Senate suggesting that he had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and Bill & Hillary getting their henchmen Ben-Veniste and Gorelick on the 9/11 commission.

36 posted on 11/09/2008 11:48:25 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: misterrob

In legal philosophy, there is a school of thought named “legal realism” (don’t blame me for it, or the choice of word). It essentially stipulates that a judge should arrive at his or her conclusion, then work backwards toward the legal justification.


37 posted on 11/09/2008 11:49:32 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: WilliamReading

McDole was chosen by my (cough, cough) “independent” friends here in NH. Who all curiously (not) went on to vote for Obama in the general.

The fix was in. NH needs to lose its status as first in the nation now that is pretty solidly blue. Or at least limit it to GOP/Ind only registered. Not pick a ticket.


38 posted on 11/09/2008 11:50:02 AM PST by nhwingut (,)
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To: gwilhelm56

You are right there. McCain may have had 200-300 people at his rallies


39 posted on 11/09/2008 11:50:35 AM PST by mel
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To: WilliamReading
McCain made many missteps, but they didn't matter much because it was clear no Republican stood much of a chance in the 2008 election with voters overwhelmingly blaming President George Bush and the GOP for the nation's problems, The Arizona Republic reported Sunday.

It would have been nice to have had an actual Republican on the ballot so that we could have found out!

40 posted on 11/09/2008 11:50:57 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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