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Defeated Palin makes triumphant return home; GOP infighting grows
SFGate (home of the San Francisco Chronicle) ^ | Thursday, November 6, 2008; 18:57 PST | Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Posted on 11/06/2008 9:00:13 PM PST by Gondring

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To: browardchad
You might try forming your opinions based on a variety of sources. The unfiltered words of Governor Palin herself would be start.

That's part of what I've used. For example, the colonel's report.

201 posted on 11/07/2008 8:55:54 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Aquinasfan
What ethical system are you operating under?

I can either answer, "The search for reality and objective truth." or "red herring--reality isn't an ethical question."

202 posted on 11/07/2008 9:08:34 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: mtntop3
I also find it astonishing that when there are problems, there are many who claim to be conservatives who would rather hide them than face them.

Some of Gov. Palin's past behavior makes these accusations seem plausible to at least some extent. As I mentioned earlier, the colonel's report gives some insight. I can understand people not wanting to discuss those things at the time they first came out nationally, but it's after the election and we should take honest stock.

203 posted on 11/07/2008 9:18:39 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Little Brat
What I’m most steamed about is the fact that she would have been SHREDDED by the MSM if she had shown up at a single event in “regular” clothes.

So you think $150,000 wasn't enough?!?

204 posted on 11/07/2008 9:20:54 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; TAdams8591

They even say that she’s smart....Carl Cameron agreed on that point.


205 posted on 11/07/2008 9:23:08 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Just mythoughts; DiogenesLaertius
Sarah caused soft republicans to bolt and thus the need to follow them? Yet then I hear those 'value' voters got turned off and stayed home after being Foloyized in 2006 and gave Congress to the democrats.

First, you're giving two statements that are not from the same source--I don't either of us made both of those statements.

Second, you're attributing two results that are not neessarily mutually exclusive (i.e., "value" voters can stay home from the same ticket that causes soft Republicans to bolt).

206 posted on 11/07/2008 9:23:34 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Aquinasfan

It must be rough to have a shower that opens into public areas.


207 posted on 11/07/2008 9:24:16 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
To me, these things are believable...and demonstrate the culture-clash we're facing. Gov. Palin presented herself as an unintellectual, regular person...and perhaps that's true.

These "things" have already been explained, (to Gov. Palin's favor), or exposed as total fabrications.

I would suggest that casting aspersions on Gov. Palin before you know fact from fiction makes you appear unintellectual.

208 posted on 11/07/2008 9:26:46 PM PST by jla
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To: Gondring
First, you're giving two statements that are not from the same source--I don't either of us made both of those statements. Second, you're attributing two results that are not neessarily mutually exclusive (i.e., "value" voters can stay home from the same ticket that causes soft Republicans to bolt).

Did I say they were from the same source? So are we now going to debate the source of the statements or their content?

The exclusivity is that 'value voters' are always the first in line to get blamed when they stand for their obviously known values. But soft Republicans need be massaged to get their votes and they are never treated as outcasts, but like 'madams' of the party.

209 posted on 11/07/2008 9:40:36 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: mtntop3
"What is amazing is that so many conservatives actually accept the false premises that the left and media present them - and proceed to anguish and attack one another, just as the left and media wish."

We see this time and again and point it out time and again, and still our own fall for it. Just incredible.

210 posted on 11/07/2008 9:57:48 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: Just mythoughts
Did I say they were from the same source? So are we now going to debate the source of the statements or their content?

Well, you'd prefer to just change to a less conservative message?

Seems to me that soft Republicans are always getting the blame around here. I'm a conservative, but I'm not going to fool myself and ignore the fact that decades of public-school indoctrination aren't taking their toll on the American electorate.

We can either put our heads in the sand and ignore that, or we can address it. I prefer the latter.

211 posted on 11/08/2008 1:32:07 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: jla
These "things" have already been explained, (to Gov. Palin's favor), or exposed as total fabrications.

"Explained" by whom?

What was the answer to the Colonel's fear question?I never heard a good explanation when it came up, but I didn't want to highlight it during the campaign.

212 posted on 11/08/2008 1:42:05 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: FredZarguna
Maybe even Warrior Nurse will have a hat in the ring by then...

Thanks for the sentiment FredZaguna I am sure that I have a resume that has more on it then our current President Elect we are the same age. Besides when I retire from the big green machine I will need something to do. Especially if I can get the support of my new wife and the conservatives of FRee Republic.

213 posted on 11/08/2008 1:54:01 AM PST by Warrior Nurse (The American people have spoken GOP that is what we get when we let RINO's take over)
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To: TChris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrUN8oldj9o&fmt=18


214 posted on 11/08/2008 1:54:05 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Warrior Nurse
You'll have our support, not because you happen to be Black, but because you choose to be conservative, and we are our choices more than anything else.

By the way, we have something in common: My Dad, who has always been my hero as well, was also 3d ID (1941-1946).

FRegards,
FRed.

215 posted on 11/09/2008 8:57:20 PM PST by FredZarguna (And please, no more Vanities that are Goedel Sentences.)
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