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Defeated Palin makes triumphant return home; GOP infighting grows
SFGate (home of the San Francisco Chronicle) ^ | Thursday, November 6, 2008; 18:57 PST | Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Posted on 11/06/2008 9:00:13 PM PST by Gondring

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To: Harry Wurzbach

If you call him a douchebag you’re going to be labeled a homophobe.


101 posted on 11/06/2008 10:45:22 PM PST by stop_fascism
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Not everyone has the same opportunities or the chance to pursue advanced degrees, though they may have wanted to. Sometimes real life gets in the way. It doesn't mean they're any less bright. Look at Rush, who doesn't have a college degree. He is an articulate, knowledgeable, intelligent person. If he hadn't told us, we would never have known.
102 posted on 11/06/2008 10:46:07 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: Gondring

So if this is all true, then I admit poor judgment, as I had been pushing for Gov. Palin for VP for a long time. And I think that perhaps she’d do well spending the next few years in prepping for the big time.

Let’s see, is it more important for a VP to know the difference between a continent and a country? or to be able to know the difference between “3” and “4”, as when Biden spoke about “that magic 3-letter word: JOBS - J-O-B-S.”

Personally, I don’t buy the Africa story. Sounds like hogwash to me. I would like to believe the towel story only because I tend to live vicariously through lucky men who travel to hotels with hot women. I have a feeling, though, the towel story is either exaggerated or false.

For me, the important thing is this: the pro-liberty policies she encouraged in her state worked and made it a better, more prosperous place to live. Those same policies could be used to make all other states better, more prosperous places to live, too.

She’s lucky she went to small unimpressive schools. Had she gone to some Ivy League college, she would have been corrupted and graduated as a Marxist.

Look what Columbia and Harvard did to Barry Soetoro: he started out as an honest thug and emerged as a dishonest socialist.

Education kills.


103 posted on 11/06/2008 10:46:40 PM PST by GoodDay (McCain-Palin '08)
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To: Scotswife
This is either a jealous/catty woman - or a jealous/catty gay man.

LOL! Or BOTH!

104 posted on 11/06/2008 10:46:47 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: GoodDay

The Africa story is hogwash. It is recycled from Bushes early days when he referred to Africa as a country.


105 posted on 11/06/2008 10:49:58 PM PST by stop_fascism
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To: Gondring
I'm sorry...but, I've noticed a pattern with you, you seem easily swayed by anything that you read, especially quotes from unnamed sources.

It's rather disheartening to think that you have so little confidence in your own opinions/impressions.

106 posted on 11/06/2008 11:00:17 PM PST by top 2 toe red (Ah, sadly... Elizabeth partook of the Kool-Aid.)
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To: diverteach; All
“wearing nothing but a towel”

I thought Carl Gossip Cameron, said, "bathrobe."

107 posted on 11/06/2008 11:03:45 PM PST by top 2 toe red (Ah, sadly... Elizabeth partook of the Kool-Aid.)
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To: GoodDay

better be careful or you may have just written MSNBC’s lead story tomorrow..ROFL


108 posted on 11/06/2008 11:05:19 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info. MAVERICK/BARRACUDA '08)
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To: ClaudiusI
Yes...by all means, let's dump all the intellectual lightweights...you, of course are announcing your candidacy when?!?
109 posted on 11/06/2008 11:07:43 PM PST by top 2 toe red (Ah, sadly... Elizabeth partook of the Kool-Aid.)
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To: Gondring

You are such a tool....

What a despicable post.


110 posted on 11/06/2008 11:12:01 PM PST by antceecee (Palin '2012' Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: stop_fascism
Now, if it had been Hitlery in a towel, no one would be alive to tell the tale. They would have been turned to stone. It’s amazing how quickly this story has morphed from bathrobe to towel. next week a drunken Palin will be running around Hotels jay bird naked.

Yep or any of the male candidates. All this movement to destroy Sarah has got me to wondering what exactly McCain really had in mind for her by chance he did win. Because right now I am beginning to consider the possibility he was not all that motivated to win. And his hand picked political maiden was expendable no matter what the outcome.

111 posted on 11/06/2008 11:16:54 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Warrior Nurse

bingo...good post..

we also need to realise a few personality issues

suppose palin ran in 2012 and won?

now i know all of us here would be bordering on a religious like experience, but mccains advisors would not. why? if she wins, it then forces everyone to look at the old campaign and the advisors of mccain and how they got it so wrong.

this is their ego speaking out. what is truly sad is their egos are more important then the country. it shows you how far down the rabbit hole they are...


112 posted on 11/06/2008 11:17:14 PM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: psjones
And that comment by Mccain regarding the economy was used by many democrats against him. Talk about giving the oppostion ammunition to use against you, ugh. Another big mistake by McCain, I think, was in talking about keeping home prices from falling and helping people who couldn’t pay their mortgage to stay in their home. Not the kind of stuff republicans feel the government should be involved in.

IIRC McCain's mortgage deal was Hillary's idea that he somehow got fed as demonstrating his disgust with wicked evil 'wall street'. Problem was he never did quite get around to naming names, most likely he would not have been able to go to that Smith dinner with his friends. Speaking of which that dinner was the most comfortable I saw McCain through out this whole campaign. He was totally within his natural surroundings.

As for Sarah Palin supposedly not knowing about Africa being a continent, Obama did not even know Illinois was next door to Kentucky. In his own words he said Kentucky was going for HIllary about its closeness to Arkansas, lol. Yeah, but the media didn’t make anything of that gaffe.

Based upon what I have read thus far regarding that accusation it is not clear that what she said had anything to do with ignorance of country/continent. And for these supposed informants to be taking their own notes on her knowledge tells me that something else was actually taking place.

113 posted on 11/06/2008 11:23:20 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: top 2 toe red
I'm sorry...but, I've noticed a pattern with you, you seem easily swayed by anything that you read, especially quotes from unnamed sources.

hehehe...those who know me would find that quite a laughable statement. Perhaps you should read my posts more carefully and not mistake open-mindedness with being swayed.

And actually, if this article is true, it will be in line with my own thoughts and impressions already gained through the late campaign--but as I pointed out above, the audit will give more information.

Heck, look at my post #42, above, where I point out that even if there was some issue with American Exceptionalism, it might just have been a difference of opinion. (Not exactly like I'm drinking whatever flavor of Kool-Aid is passed out!) And in fact, I think that Wilsonian doctrine is a large part of what has gotten us in this mess we're in, so I'd probably be dinged by McCain's flunkies, too!

Remember, facing challenges (negative press reports, for example) and managing responses to them isn't giving in to them. It's better than pretending they don't exist.

114 posted on 11/06/2008 11:28:18 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: antceecee
Ah, yes... if these things are true, we should just stick our heads in the sand, keep on throwing all our eggs into the Sarah Palin basket, and drive conservatism even more into the shadows.

</sarc>

Sorry, but some of us want conservatism to succeed, even if it's painful. Some of us find it useful to learn and discuss what others might be reading. Some of us believe in looking at reality itself, not just through rose-colored filters.

Whether true or not, this is a published story and has accusations that may or may not be true. As I said above, it's a hit piece, but perhaps there are bits of truth.

But rather than give any constructive suggestions on how best to address these considerations (blindly fight back; wait and see what the audits say; try to let them die quietly; slam McCain's aides; determine if people are framing the Romney camp or if it's really his stuff; etc.), you just try to tear down a fellow FReeper. Real nice.

115 posted on 11/06/2008 11:28:25 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: ClaudiusI

You sound like McCains pathetic campaign advisors. Here’s a newsflash for you - I know dozens of people personally who only voted for MCCain because Palin was on the ticket.

McCain was WAAAAAAY down the list of candidates that the GOP base wanted.

THere was a collective “ohhhh......” when McCain won out in the primaries.

There was a reason that Palin out-drew Mccain by thousands at campaign events. SHE was the one that excited the base, not McCain.

Here’s another newsflash for you - The “Moderate Mafia” in the GOP can keep this up and guarantee the destruction of the party. THere are 25,000,000 to 30,000,000 conservatives who will NOT compromise their principles to please the moderates who want to keep reaching across the isle to make the liberals happy.


116 posted on 11/06/2008 11:29:17 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: FredZarguna; greyfoxx39

I hate to sound like a loon charismatic Christian, but someone I know in the UK church had a vision about a “black haired man” fighting over the sick and possibly dying corpse of John McCain with a woman for power.

This was back in Sept/August. This preacher does not know US politics.

I immediately said the black haired man is Mitt Romney...

This preacher has also had alarming visions about nuke attack on the US.

Sorry to scare up Biblical stuff but I do believe Romney is after Palin for 2012 power. They’d like to “Katherine Harris” her now.


117 posted on 11/06/2008 11:29:19 PM PST by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
It is not just the liberal Dems she threatens, but the RINOs as well.

She's a bigger threat to RINOs than to Dems. Indeed, the way to tell a moderate from a RINO is observe the reaction to Ms. Palin. A moderate won't be willing to go out on a limb for the conservative positions Ms. Palin puts forth, but he'll quietly applaud her for doing so. A RINO, by contrast, would rather attack Ms. Palin than the Democrats.

118 posted on 11/06/2008 11:30:01 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: Gondring

So basically some people decided to come up with every implausible rumor they could.

What.

Ever.


119 posted on 11/06/2008 11:36:17 PM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: Just mythoughts
Because right now I am beginning to consider the possibility he was not all that motivated to win.

A co-worker of mine believed quite strongly that Sen. McCain was intentionally throwing the race to get back at the RNC because they forced Gov. Palin on him.

While I don't agree with his entire argument, I do believe that Sen. McCain held back to protect his Senate and other relationships, while never really knowing what Palin's role would be.

And even if nobody forced Gov. Palin on him, I'm sure he felt that circumstances forced her upon him when he'd rather have had someone like Joe Lieberman, Lindsay Graham, et al.

120 posted on 11/06/2008 11:36:53 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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