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Rendell, Specter say Palin hurt McCain's chances
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 11/6/2008 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/06/2008 8:27:09 AM PST by mak5

GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin took some heat Wednesday from two of Pennsylvania's top political leaders.

Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell told business leaders at a postelection breakfast that John McCain would have had a better chance of winning Pennsylvania with a different running mate, and U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter, a GOP moderate, rejected the idea that the Republican party might belong to Palin.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: mccain; pa2008; palin; pennsylvania; specter
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To: Terabitten

and vote in the damn primaries.........we get in this mess over and over again because nobody votes in the damn primaries!!!!the typical libtard votes in every damn election, why don’t we???????


121 posted on 11/06/2008 9:21:46 AM PST by joe fonebone (The time has come, the time is now, let the purge begin...)
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To: Alberta's Child

“they are state-wide representatives of a marginally retarded group of voters.”

I tried to read this any number of ways, but maybe it’s my marginal retardation.

There is a whole area between Philly and Pittsburgh that is not rural, but more Harrisburg (capital area) suburbia. This includes the are where the marginally retarded Army War College is housed, in Carlisle. It includes the Naval Depot in Mechanicsburg, where I live. Corporate offices for companies such as Footlocker and Rite Aid are here.

I worked for the campaign, and not only did I work with two former Hillary supporters but also with some great people involved in the Carlisle Trucking Industry and with some awesome hardworking students from Messiah and Dickinson Colleges.

Looking at the electoral map, most of PA went red, except counties near Philly and then Allegheny and Centre County. So, where do the rest of us marginally retarded voters come in?


122 posted on 11/06/2008 9:22:23 AM PST by merry10
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To: kimchi lover
So, I guess it’s “Pile On Palin” season for the GOP.

And so it will remain until she signs an affidavit swearing she'll never run for office again, and never again scare the shit out of them by offering an alternative to their wisdom and authority.

123 posted on 11/06/2008 9:22:23 AM PST by Skid Marx
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To: marsh2

Perhaps a 3rd party would be best for Conservatives.


124 posted on 11/06/2008 9:23:12 AM PST by rlferny
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To: mak5
Specter was asked if the Republican Party now belongs to Palin. He flatly answered "No," to laughter and applause. He then said, "If my answer needed amplification, I would've done so."

If Rendell or Specter are our nominee in 4 years, they won't have my vote. This is unacceptable.

125 posted on 11/06/2008 9:23:43 AM PST by MathDoc (Support The Affirmative Action President as enthusiastically as the media supported Bush!)
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To: rlferny

McCain was quick to discipline his campaign staff for dissing Obama. When’s he going to do the same for his own RUNNINGMATE fer cryin’ out loud?


126 posted on 11/06/2008 9:25:20 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: MBB1984
they probably would have had a greater appeal to independents and some democrats.

I for one am not interested in a candidate to appeal to any Democrats. To me we need a candidate that will run as a conservative and on a conservative message- and the truth of the message will fire up the conservative base. If the conservative message reaches independents and even democrats- that will be great. We just don't need any more candidates that will reach so far left they lose the conservatives. We keep trying that and it keeps failing.

Republicans keep trying to dump the conservatives and each time they think the country has moved far enough left they try it and fail. The answer is not to go left- anyone that wants to go left will vote D. We need the conservatives, need to admit that and find a candidate that will get their support. No more RINOS. I am not saying Jindal, Sanford or Cantor are RINOS- I don't know enough about them- but you presented them as appealing more to the indies and dems than Palin and that is the wrong direction.

127 posted on 11/06/2008 9:25:46 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Obama's margin, statewide, was 600,000 votes. His margin just in the five-county Philadelphia area was 656,000. The match was over before the ball got kicked west of Valley Forge.

This splains everything.

128 posted on 11/06/2008 9:26:01 AM PST by Skid Marx
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To: rlferny

The Republican Party has spent tens of millions of dollars and countless hours bringing conservatives into the tent.


129 posted on 11/06/2008 9:27:25 AM PST by durasell
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To: caseinpoint

Conservatives should study how The (New) Conservative party of Canada did it in Canada.
Basically, They started another party, the Reform party, later renamed the New Conservative party of Canada, then merged with the remaining conservatives from the old party, forcing the blue liberals, the equivalent to our Northeastern Rockefellers, out.


130 posted on 11/06/2008 9:27:39 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yep, ultimately politics is marketing and sometimes you have to change the brand name and logo.


131 posted on 11/06/2008 9:29:29 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: MBB1984
Reagan inspired a lot of democrats and won landslide elections because of it.

Switched a lot of party IDs too. they don't want to see that again, if they can help it.

132 posted on 11/06/2008 9:30:21 AM PST by Skid Marx
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To: mak5

The media was extremely effective in framing Gov Palin as the new Dan Quayle.
Neither of whom were anything like their media caricatures.
The McCain campaign bungled her roll out-Couric, Gibson ??
Why not just let Olbermann or Al Queda define her ?
The sobering ,but, realistic fact is the Obamamedia trumped conservative talk radio and the net.
They recreated Palin into a toothless rustic from the backwoods gnawing on a moose carcass for fun.
With the ham handed help of the McCain campaign.

The only elected Republican I’ve seen in years actually willing to stand up to the media
and the Democrats is Gov Palin.
And she can actually communicate - a rarity among the usual Republicans.
Which is why she is so beloved by conservatives.
Her PR rehabilitation should be one of the highest priorities of the RNC.
And if they won’t help her , they do so at their peril.


133 posted on 11/06/2008 9:31:28 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: rlferny
Perhaps a 3rd party would be best for Conservatives

Only if they want to be maginalized forever.

134 posted on 11/06/2008 9:33:36 AM PST by Skid Marx
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To: mak5
The sooner we can get rid of rino’s like Specter the better.
135 posted on 11/06/2008 9:35:11 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: mak5

I wouldn’t piss on Rendell, Specter or McCain if they were on fire. In fact it wouldn’t take much encouragement to set any one of those a-holes on fire.


136 posted on 11/06/2008 9:35:18 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Might be the way to do it but the country is so divided between the two parties that a competitive party might not be able to accomplish it, anymore than third parties have been able to accomplish anything except be spoilers for their philosophical allies. The Dems did it with PACs and 527s and I think that would probably accomplish a lot if conservatives vowed to starve the party and let the PACs and 527s hand out the money and/or support.


137 posted on 11/06/2008 9:37:11 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Ingtar
The RINOS that brought us McCain jumped ship when a Conservative was added to the ticket. The carnage without her would have been much worse.

Absolutely! For every RINO that jumped ship Palin brought ten conservatives to the voting booth for McStain.

138 posted on 11/06/2008 9:39:04 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: mak5

I think McCain was LUCKY to have Gov Palin...she brought his numbers up and his base as well.


139 posted on 11/06/2008 9:39:45 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: Soul Seeker
"And this is also why I felt no loss when McCain lost."

You know, until you mentioned this, I was struggling to descibe my feelings.

I felt anger, that this nation could elect a capitalist hating Marxist traitor, I felt mournful, we just lost our nation as we know it, and I felt terrible, sad for what Sarah Palin went through, torn to pieces by lying media traitorous media.

But I feel no loss at all for McCain. Nothing. He just goes back to being what he always was, a rino.

And now these RINO's are getting me angry for attacking Palin.

We need to start a NEW Republican party. Perhaps we can convince Sarah to write a new constitution for our new party, then we can get the ball rolling.

140 posted on 11/06/2008 9:39:59 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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