And we'll see an anti "gun show loophole" law passed, that will outlaw all private person to person sales of firearms. The goal is 100% tracking of all firearms sales going forward.
Posted on 11/06/2008 7:51:54 AM PST by rosenfan
GRAND JUNCTION — John Faulkner and his wife, Brenda, thought Wednesday was a good day to buy a handgun.
"I'm 37 years old, and this is the first time in my life that I am really scared for our future," said Faulkner, an oil field worker, as he perused the collection of weaponry in A Pawn Shop here.
At Aurora's Firing Line gun shop, Steve Wickham was also purchasing. "Anything I can get my hands on," he said as he cradled a $699 9mm handgun.
Same thing in Lakewood: "I was selling guns before I even opened the door," said George Horne, owner of The Gun Room. "It's gone completely mad. Everyone is buying everything I've got on the shelves. Sales have been crazy."
By midday Wednesday, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation's "Insta- Check" background check — required for the sale of a firearm and typically about 8 minutes long — was jammed with waits lasting more than two hours.
Gun-shop owners and buyers said the urgency was fueled by Barack Obama's presidential win and Democrats' increasing their majority in Congress.
"I'm here because of Obama," Wickham said. "I think he's misinterpreted the Second Amendment. It's not about the right to hunt. It's about the right to defend yourself."
The Grand Junction pawnshop is decorated with bumper stickers: "Obama 08" with hammers and sickles on each end, "Obama for President of Afghanistan" and "Don't Be a Victim. Buy a Gun."
Potential threats outlined
Buyers, who were mostly going for assault rifles and handguns, were sighting them on the bumper stickers.
Behind the cash register, a list issued by the National Rifle Association outlines the potential threats a President Obama would have on Second Amendment gun rights: prohibitive excise taxes on guns and ammunition, bans on sales and transfers of all semiautomatic weapons, bans on right-to-carry permits and more.
One customer left with two new assault rifles and said he had already bought 30 weapons since Obama began his campaign for president.
"And look at this," he said, unwrapping a black rifle from a plastic cover. "I'm not talking BB guns."
Across Colorado, gun shops reported brisk business Wednesday as hunters and gun enthusiasts began to stockpile in anticipation of a Democratic president and Congress whittling away Second Amendment gun rights. The FBI is reporting that gun sales have increased 10 percent over purchases at this point last year.
Jerry Stehman told an endless wave of customers at his Jerry's Outdoor Sports store in Grand Junction to come back in two hours to pick up their firearm purchases. For the past 10 days, Stehman said, customers have been gathering cases of ammunition and multiple guns.
"We don't know where this character is coming from or what he's gonna do to us," Stehman said of Obama. "But I can tell you it's been good for business."
The crush of business shows no signs of subsiding.
"It will be extremely busy until Obama decides to do anything," said Richard Taylor, manager of Firing Line, which bills itself as Colorado's largest gun shop and has seen its stock of assault rifles dwindle from several dozen to a mere few in recent weeks. "And that's the real problem, the uncertainty of what he is going to do."
Obama, who reportedly has never fired a gun, has followed Democratic Party lines in his Senate and Illinois statehouse votes regarding gun control. He supported the controversial handgun ban in Washington, D.C., which the Supreme Court shot down earlier this year.
He has voted in favor of several gun-control measures and increasing taxes on ammunition and firearms.
"A deep-rooted hatred"
The 4 million-member NRA dedicated $15 million of its $40 million campaign this year to painting Obama as a threat to the Second Amendment. In a mass fundraising letter sent to members this summer, NRA president Wayne LaPierre wrote, "Never in NRA's history have we faced a presidential candidate — and hundreds of candidates running for other offices — with such a deep-rooted hatred of firearm freedoms."
Obama's campaign, in a statement labeled "Supporting the rights and traditions of sportsmen," said he "will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns."
Gun owners worry that a Democratic administration and Congress would support a return to President Clinton's gun ban, which lasted 10 years before sunsetting in 2004. That ban prohibited magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds and certain semiautomatic assault rifles with cosmetic features such as lugs for attaching a bayonet.
"Not only are they likely to revisit the Clinton ban, they will possibly make it more restrictive by banning more types of firearms altogether," said Tony Fabian, a Castle Rock attorney and president of the Colorado State Shooting Association, which is the state's division of the NRA.
Several gun-shop owners contacted by The Denver Post on Wednesday said sales had been exceptionally brisk in the past two months.
"The avid gun owners are picking up items that were part of earlier bans or things the Democrats typically talk about when they talk about gun control. Anything semiautomatic. Magazines for more than 30 (rounds). Assault-type guns," said Tim Brough, owner of Rocky Mountain Shooters Supply in Fort Collins. "I think it's a legitimate concern. Democrats typically want to pass more gun legislation, and now you've got a House, Senate and Democratic president, so it seems likely we will see more gun regulation."
No, you can get a nonresident concealed carry permits in both states. In fact, New York will soon be offering the classes to obtain these two states’ nonresident CCW permits so we don’t even have to leave the state (though you can probably do this on your own anyway).
A quick Google search says that 28 states honor the Florida CCW permit, though I don’t know if this is the most recent data:
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Ohio, Virginia, and Wyoming.
LOL
they are leaving MA,NY,NJ,RI,CT in droves and moving to VA,NC,FL and thus bringing their ignorant voting ways with them
they screw up their old state and now move to a red state which is doing good only to make it look like their own and screw another state up
IDIOTS
People buying guns where the background checks are done are just on the list to have them confiscated. If your state allows person-to-person sales with no background checks then that is what I would do. I lost all my guns long ago when my canoe tragically overturned.
gotta’ go get mine SOON!!!
And we'll see an anti "gun show loophole" law passed, that will outlaw all private person to person sales of firearms. The goal is 100% tracking of all firearms sales going forward.
Never bought a gun before but I’ve thinking of it the last three weeks. Definitely will now, but i have no idea what to get. My mom who is not at all a gun person decided to get one Wednesday. Fortunately I live in VA. I hope its possible to buy one without the government knowing? I don’t want to get a list for the confiscation I expect to come down the road...
Obama’s Assault Weapon ban...
“Defines “Assault Weapon” as any firearm that fires in a semi-automatic or automatic function and/or accepts magazines capable of holding five or more rounds inside of it. Also defines any rifle that can shoot rounds more than 1/2 mile, and any gun with a length smaller than six inches, and any pump action shot-gun”
“Restrictions... All “Assault Weapons” must be registered as NFA weapons, no Assault weapons may be made or sold to the public after 100 days after passage of this bill. All Transactions of AW’s after 100 days of passage are subject to NFA paperwork and a $5000 tax payable to the IRS”
N.B. Not that anything would have been different under a McCain presidency. The Gun Show 'Loophole' has been a target of his for years.
Agreed.
All sales made through a dealer must have a background check done first. That is a federal law. Some states, Colorado included, require a background check if the sale is made at a gun show. Many states do not require a background check for a face-to-face sale between legal age residents of the same state. Colorado does not require any paperwork at all for a face-to-face sale so there is no paper trail to trace a gun to you. I don’t know if the dealer paperwork records the model and S/N of a gun. Maybe a FFL holder on here would know.
Yes, it is tragic that I lost every gun that had dealer paperwork when my canoe turned over on that camping trip. That is the reason I can’t turn them in. That is my story and I’m sticking to it. /s
I hadn’t thought about a face-to-face sale....hmmmmmm. Interesting loophole.
LOL about your canoe. I didn’t see the sarcasm the first time around. Hehehehee....
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