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To: Old Sarge

That’s nice Rush is blaming us. I still say that it is the GOP - emphasis on OLD that didn’t support the republican candidate. If any candidate doesn’t meet ALL standard of a republican then they are rejected and not even considered. Until that attitude changes we are in for a long miserable ride. My case in point, McCain was not supported in the same way that obama was by his party.


9 posted on 11/05/2008 1:28:09 PM PST by Cyclone59 (It is amazing how people are comforted by percentages)
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To: Cyclone59

This is not the same country as when Ronald Reagan was President.

The conservative wing of the republican party is no different than the reactionaries of old.

We can look back and lament or look forward and embrace our candidate or sit back and whine that our guy/gal is not perfect. whine whine whine.

Evidently winning is not as important as whining.

Ugh.


21 posted on 11/05/2008 1:33:27 PM PST by Carley (Vote McCain/Palin.....Change babies can live with.)
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To: Cyclone59
...any candidate doesn’t meet ALL standard of a republican then they are rejected and not even considered. Until that attitude changes...

I think you need to be cleansed.

22 posted on 11/05/2008 1:34:09 PM PST by keat
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To: Cyclone59

That is because McCain chooses to act more like a Democrat then some Democrats. This is my husbands gripe - the GOP put someone up that in many ways went against what the party and base stand for.


44 posted on 11/05/2008 1:44:29 PM PST by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: Cyclone59
"That’s nice Rush is blaming us."

Feeling guilty are we?

Rush didn't blame me for anything and I didn't take what he said that way. McCain never should have been on the ballot, hell after McCain-Fiengold and McCain-Kennedy his sorry ass should have been ejected from the party.

War hero? I'll respect that. What's the man done for conservatives lately?

Exactly

And I agree with Rush, it's time to clean house including right here are FreeRepublic.

45 posted on 11/05/2008 1:44:41 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (for the moderators who tend to think we don't support McCain enough))
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To: Cyclone59

Obama is a liberal — that is the Democrat base. He received Dem support. McCain is a RINO — that is not the Republican base. He lost Republican support. It’s not rocket science here. When the Republicans run conservatives, THEY WIN. When they run RINOs, THEY LOSE. Very few of us wanted to vote for McCain. We turned out to vote against Obama. The party needs to get it, and quick. I won’t be voting against the Democrat again. It’s a sure sign we lose. I’ll vote third party unless the RNC gets their act together and moves solidly conservative. They can embrace and empower the Catholic vote and bring hispanics onboard and we will win. This is the future of the party and conservatism and we better quit running from it and get it right!


88 posted on 11/05/2008 2:14:40 PM PST by DRey
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To: Cyclone59

Analysis of the numbers from last night reveal that about as much of Obama’s party abandoned him as Republicans abandoned McCain. Coupling the shift of Moderates, as usual, to the more bright and shiny campaign, Mr-elect Obama also managed to get some of the younger voters to actually vote this time to make up the margin.


89 posted on 11/05/2008 2:14:46 PM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: Cyclone59

Rush said that it was the GOP at large, not Conservatives. We need to purge those moderates that abandoned us, and replace them with people of our choosing.


97 posted on 11/05/2008 2:26:29 PM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: Cyclone59
That’s nice Rush is blaming us.

Unless you have a mouse in your pocket, don't be saying "US"........Since you obviously didn't get it, Rush was blaming the Republican heirarchy that allowed McCain to run as well as those folks who voted for him in the primary....

McCain was not my choice of candidates back in 2000 nor was he my choice in 2008. Unfortunately he ended up as my only choice against Obama.

So Rush was not blaming me but by your own admittance, he was blaming you..........

Blame the Blue Bloods of the party, not Rush......He's only the messenger of truth.

148 posted on 11/05/2008 3:28:51 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Spreading manure around helps growth. Spreading wealth around creates manure)
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To: Cyclone59

As a subsequent poster suggested, Conservatives were presented with a lesser of evils choice. McCain had spent his career gleefully sticking his thumb in our eyes which may have somewhat lessened his attractiveness to conservatives as a potenmtial leader. Also, my friend, a delightful VP choice was not enough to overcome a disjointed, off message dreadfully poor campaign.

Democrats’ recent successes have resulted from their ability to hang together and to enforce hanging together. Motivated, no doubt, by a desire to retain and expand their power and avoid getting their butts kicked. Republicans, as we’ve clearly seen in ‘06 and ‘08 apparently have not learned to do this nearly as well as democrats and we have been hanging separately. The open tent and adjusting the core message for all who can crowd inside was an abject failure. If we cannot learn to keep our internal battles strictly private and coalesce around a conservative center, they will continue to pick us off one at a time.

If you’re truly offended by what Rush said in his first hour today, then bless you, my friend, go locate another coalition that you find more amenable.


180 posted on 11/05/2008 4:18:24 PM PST by Postman
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To: Cyclone59
... McCain was not supported in the same way that obama was by his party.

McCain reaped what he has been sowing for several years!

221 posted on 11/05/2008 5:58:27 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Cyclone59
McCain ran about as bad a campaign has I've seen since Bush 1992--even Dole's lackluster campaign was better. Having nobody to run at the top of the ticket sure helped the Michigan Republicans retain their seats with Day-after-day of Obama's castigation of Bush policies synchronized with Mark Schauer's commercials. McCain was correct in insisting that we not label our adversary a "terrorists" or a "traitors", but his reflex of compromise was incompetence of the worst kind.
244 posted on 11/06/2008 4:51:22 AM PST by tralfazwasused? (The real Tralfaz)
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To: Cyclone59
If any candidate doesn’t meet ALL standard of a republican then they are rejected and not even considered.

Um, what's the point of even having a party if we are supposed to end up nominating/electing individuals who are opposed to the party's stated ideology and platform? For the GOP to push non-conservative people for President is like Planned Parenthood/NARAL picking a pro-lifer to be their chairman -- except THEY aren't stupid enough to do that.

Until that attitude changes we are in for a long miserable ride. My case in point, McCain was not supported in the same way that obama was by his party.

McCain didn't deserve support. He's an aggressive enemy of the U.S. Constitution.

245 posted on 11/06/2008 4:55:59 AM PST by Sloth (What's the difference between taxation and armed robbery, aside from who's doing it?)
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To: Cyclone59
If any candidate doesn’t meet ALL standard of a republican then they are rejected and not even considered.

Um, what's the point of even having a party if we are supposed to end up nominating/electing individuals who are opposed to the party's stated ideology and platform? For the GOP to push non-conservative people for President is like Planned Parenthood/NARAL picking a pro-lifer to be their chairman -- except THEY aren't stupid enough to do that.

Until that attitude changes we are in for a long miserable ride. My case in point, McCain was not supported in the same way that obama was by his party.

McCain didn't deserve support. He's an aggressive enemy of the U.S. Constitution.

246 posted on 11/06/2008 4:56:18 AM PST by Sloth (What's the difference between taxation and armed robbery, aside from who's doing it?)
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To: Cyclone59

“McCain was not supported in the same way that obama was by his party”

Um, Obama also supports his own party. McCain hates most of his party.

Frankly, if it were not for Palin, I’d have sat this election out.


254 posted on 11/06/2008 7:17:35 AM PST by Mr Rogers (And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way - Reagan)
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To: Cyclone59
That’s nice Rush is blaming us.

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Rush is blaming "us"? Only if you consider yourself something other than a conservative.

Limbaugh explained conservatism was not on the ballot.

"We haven't been on the ballot since 1994," he said, noting that if Republicans wanted to win elections, they should not put so-called "moderates" on the ballot.

"The conservative movement does not need to be rebuilt," he said. "We had some people abandon the conservative movement, and they need to be abandoned."

256 posted on 11/06/2008 7:29:26 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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