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Pennsylvania Voting Thread
11/4/08

Posted on 11/04/2008 5:17:43 AM PST by Undertow

Pennsylvania Voters:

State your thoughts and experiences...


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To: Undertow

At my polling station, HUGE 0bama/Biden signs on the doors. NO McCain signs.
No lines. It’s quieter than a funeral parlor.
0bama’s middle name is not on the ballot.


21 posted on 11/04/2008 5:46:46 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Whither America? Who is teaching the children?)
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To: Plumres

I’m wearing my McCain button to work. When I walked in this morning, one of my co-workers asked if I voted yet and I said I was going after work. She said, “Gotta vote! It’s going to be a big, big day!” (Obama supporter) I replied, “Or a big, big let down.” And smiled.

God, please let me be right!


22 posted on 11/04/2008 5:49:29 AM PST by JenB987
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To: Undertow
From my brother in Bethlehem, PA. Former Marine Tank reservist. I don't have to tell you who he voted for:

"I voted at 7:15 this morning. Polls opened at 7 in PA. I was the 26th person to vote in my ward. I arrived at the polls at 6:30, My wife is voting later today."
23 posted on 11/04/2008 5:53:47 AM PST by beagleone (Stand up and fight. America is worth fighting for. Nothing is inevitable here. We never give up.)
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To: Rational Thought

200 ft I believe...


24 posted on 11/04/2008 5:54:38 AM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: Undertow
I believe it's 100 feet. But when do rules apply to Democrats?

Supporters of Obama can do ANYTHING they want this election, whether or not it's unethical, immoral, or illegal.

If we complain, well, of course...

IT'S RACIST (where's the gif of the little black kid screaming?).

25 posted on 11/04/2008 5:55:44 AM PST by DocH (Osama Obama: Leader of an America-Hating Socialist /Black Nationalist Sleeper Cell)
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To: Undertow

I got to my polling place in Upper Bucks at 6:30 and nobody was there. First on line. There were Obama signs everywhere and as usually, a woman at the front giving out Democratic ballots. She came over to us asking if we wanted a ballot. Obviously we declined. That’s 2 for McCain— there were several on line who asked for the Dem ballot but most people did not. By the time we left there were no parking spaces open anywhere.


26 posted on 11/04/2008 7:01:31 AM PST by brainstrains
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To: beagleone

Voted early in Southern Chester County Pennsylvania. The lines were long before the polls opened. I was there before 7am and voted at 8:15am. There was only one man that blew his stack at the long line. He was hispanic and was really ticked off. I told him to act like an adult and get back in line..........:>)


27 posted on 11/04/2008 7:03:39 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: DocH

I have been voting since 1976 here in Cherryville PA (15 mile north of Allentown). I usally am one of the first 5 people to vote when the polls open at 7am. When I got there today at 6:45am the line was forming with 35 people already waiting to vote. Weather was cold and overcast. This is the most heavy turnout I have ever seen. This is GOOD NEWS for John McCain sice this is a very conservative area.


28 posted on 11/04/2008 7:06:13 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: SueRae

I was 8th in line at 6:30, and the line was out to the parking lot at 7am opening time. I think it will be a busy day. I found myself standing between two people who were even more raving right-wingers than I was, which I interpret as a sign.


29 posted on 11/04/2008 7:09:34 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Undertow

From my buddy in PA.

“Rich, Woody just reported that his rural polling place was swarmed for the first time with all the Philly trash from the government run free housing project for the first time. Straight Dem I’m sure.”


30 posted on 11/04/2008 7:11:26 AM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: Undertow

Voted at 8am in Pine Township(northern Allegheny County) Leafy upper-middle class Republican suburb.

About 100 folks there - had to wait in line 20 minutes, usually there is no line. All voters over 40, mostly men.


31 posted on 11/04/2008 7:25:34 AM PST by swingstate_voter
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To: Undertow

I voted 82nd this morning at my York County polling place.
Got there right after 7am.

I was 7th in the spring and got in line then and now at the same time just after 7am.

All kinds of people in line with an Obama supporter handing out Democrat ticket literature printed by the York County Demo Party.

Polling place I passed going to mine already had a full parking lot and a line out the doors.

I just passed another polling place in the last hour with a hundred people lined up well outside the doors.

There coming out out here. Whether we can beat Philly remains to be seen.

This area is 95 percent white but I did notice a good share of black voters this morning. Probably a dozen or more in line at my place with me.

Also lots of older white voters including a half dozen in wheelchairs.


32 posted on 11/04/2008 7:25:47 AM PST by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Rational Thought

There is no Federal Law on this. You’ll have to look at PA state law.


33 posted on 11/04/2008 7:34:49 AM PST by Mariko
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To: Undertow

Just finished voting in western PA. Took 1/2 hour, start to finish. Line was longer than I’ve seen. Mostly the elderly. Most seemed to know each other. One guy said to his wife, “We’re here to vote for change, right?” Several others chimed in. I reached in my pocket and took out some coins and offered them to the gentlemen.

“Here’s your change right here,” I said.

He laughed.

I said, “Really. Take it. You’re gonna need it.”

Really ugly looks. Nothing I’m not used to.


34 posted on 11/04/2008 7:38:41 AM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Undertow

If you feel discouraged read Obama is Toast

Pennslyvania is now red

Take to the bank, folks, Pennslyvania is turning red this election. I’ve been talking Pennslyvania for the last couple of election posts so might as well continue. Pennslyvania is the *special state* of this election, the state that everyone will be talking about after the election. In that regards, Pennslyvania is to 2008 as Florida is to 2000 and Ohio is to 2004.

It is electorally impossible for Obama to become president without winning Ohio and Pennslyvania. Scenarios of Obama winning all these other little states just isn’t realistic. Maybe the Western states, but not the more red states in the East.

These are the trips from October 25th that McCain has taken:

McCain has been living in Ohio essentially. Now, let us look at Palin’s trips:

Most of these areas centers around Pennslyvania. Both McCain and Palin are focusing in the same Rust Belt area. They aren’t taking many trips to the West. McCain Campaign’s strategy is to go on the offensive in the Rust Belt while holding on to the Bush states. Obama is weakest in the Rust Belt area. The visits, as you can see in the picture above, have several that take place in blue counties and Democrat strongholds. I suspect that with Ohio stripping their voting laws down for the past eight years (now a park bench is considered a ‘legal address’ for a voter), the fear of voter fraud is strong in the MCCain Campaign and they feel they must make up for it in votes in the Democrat areas of the state.

The biggest plum of the Rust Belt is Pennslyvania which the McCain Campaign has, obviously, targeted heavily. Pennslyvania was razor thin in 2000 and 2004. Since Obama is a weaker candidate than Kerry and Gore, especially in the Rust Belt, McCain Campaign believes Pennslyvania is winnable. He’s right. It is.

From Ohio and Pennslyvania, the Rust Belt states branch out and generally move together as a group. This is why McCain Campaign feels it is worth campaigning in Iowa as it borders several Rust Belt states as well as being close, in itself. McCain could possibly pick up another Rust Belt state such as Wisconsin (razor thin in 2004) or Minnesota. The attention is focused, laser like, on Pennslyvania simply because it is the biggest prize of the Rust Belt states. Pennslyvania would create a 40 point electoral vote swing and would be a sizable buffer if Obama picks up any small states along the way.

Pennslyvania has been grossly misreported on this election cycle. During the Democrat primary, union bosses approached Hillary Clinton and said, “Promise us you will not put Obama as your Veep and you will have our support.” The moment Obama become the nominee was when he lost Pennslyvania. Obama has been spending money like a drunken sailor in the state, blasting the state full of advertising, but it isn’t working. The famous Philly machine won’t be at Obama’s disposal as the governor, Rendell, is a Clinton supporter , and he has been hinting at Pennslyvania going red by the mysterious leak of the Obama internal campaign poll of PA being +2 a couple of weeks ago and publicly asking Obama to come back to the state as well as saying that things are ‘tightening’ there. The evidence that PA is going red should be with how the safe Democrat seats are becoming suddenly competitive. Rendell is a Democrat and doesn’t want to lose house seats which is another reason to ask Obama to come back.

Pennslyvania is not a New England state, it is a mid-atlantic state. It is mostly a rural state. Obama likely thought Philly and Pittsburgh would be enough to carry the state (Obama is relying on cities to swing entire states his way). But Kerry could barely hold the state even with the Philly machine and the Democrat base on his side. And McCain and Palin are far more popular, campaign wise, than Bush and Cheney were in 2004.

Obama does not have the Democrat base solidified behind him. In states that massively swung to Clinton, such as Pennslyvania, a sizable number of Hillary Clinton supporters are voting for McCain under the banner of ‘Party Unity My Ass’ or ‘PUMA’s. In McCain Campaign offices throughout Pennslyvania, manning their phone banks, are DEMOCRATS which voted for Hillary Clinton. An unholy alliance has developed between senators McCain and Clinton. Both are friends to one another. Both have a framed picture of the other in their offices. The PUMA story is the biggest one not being told about in this election.

Lying to pollsters is frequent and a necessity in Pennslyvania due to the unions. Many union bosses will call their members, posing as a ‘pollster’, and if the member gives the wrong asnwer, a thug is sent to the house. The Teacher’s Union there has sent strict orders to vote for Obama “or else”.

And to add on to Obama’s problems in Pennslyvania is the presence of Nader on the ballot. Nader was blamed for ciphoning away votes from Gore in 2000. Democrats fought hard to keep Nader off the ballot and in 2004, Nader was not on the Pennslyvania ballot. If he was, the state would have likely swung to Bush in 2004. With razor thin margins in 2004, Obama cannot afford a Nader on the ballot in PA.

Pennslyvania may not be a Republican state, but it is a conservative one. Democrats have been slowly losing their grasp over Pennslyvania for quite some time. It has been on the edge for the last eight years, but now it will likely fall off into the Republican column. Color this state red.

35 posted on 11/04/2008 7:40:14 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Undertow

If you feel discouraged read Obama is Toast

Pennslyvania is now red

Take to the bank, folks, Pennslyvania is turning red this election. I’ve been talking Pennslyvania for the last couple of election posts so might as well continue. Pennslyvania is the *special state* of this election, the state that everyone will be talking about after the election. In that regards, Pennslyvania is to 2008 as Florida is to 2000 and Ohio is to 2004.

It is electorally impossible for Obama to become president without winning Ohio and Pennslyvania. Scenarios of Obama winning all these other little states just isn’t realistic. Maybe the Western states, but not the more red states in the East.

These are the trips from October 25th that McCain has taken:

McCain has been living in Ohio essentially. Now, let us look at Palin’s trips:

Most of these areas centers around Pennslyvania. Both McCain and Palin are focusing in the same Rust Belt area. They aren’t taking many trips to the West. McCain Campaign’s strategy is to go on the offensive in the Rust Belt while holding on to the Bush states. Obama is weakest in the Rust Belt area. The visits, as you can see in the picture above, have several that take place in blue counties and Democrat strongholds. I suspect that with Ohio stripping their voting laws down for the past eight years (now a park bench is considered a ‘legal address’ for a voter), the fear of voter fraud is strong in the MCCain Campaign and they feel they must make up for it in votes in the Democrat areas of the state.

The biggest plum of the Rust Belt is Pennslyvania which the McCain Campaign has, obviously, targeted heavily. Pennslyvania was razor thin in 2000 and 2004. Since Obama is a weaker candidate than Kerry and Gore, especially in the Rust Belt, McCain Campaign believes Pennslyvania is winnable. He’s right. It is.

From Ohio and Pennslyvania, the Rust Belt states branch out and generally move together as a group. This is why McCain Campaign feels it is worth campaigning in Iowa as it borders several Rust Belt states as well as being close, in itself. McCain could possibly pick up another Rust Belt state such as Wisconsin (razor thin in 2004) or Minnesota. The attention is focused, laser like, on Pennslyvania simply because it is the biggest prize of the Rust Belt states. Pennslyvania would create a 40 point electoral vote swing and would be a sizable buffer if Obama picks up any small states along the way.

Pennslyvania has been grossly misreported on this election cycle. During the Democrat primary, union bosses approached Hillary Clinton and said, “Promise us you will not put Obama as your Veep and you will have our support.” The moment Obama become the nominee was when he lost Pennslyvania. Obama has been spending money like a drunken sailor in the state, blasting the state full of advertising, but it isn’t working. The famous Philly machine won’t be at Obama’s disposal as the governor, Rendell, is a Clinton supporter , and he has been hinting at Pennslyvania going red by the mysterious leak of the Obama internal campaign poll of PA being +2 a couple of weeks ago and publicly asking Obama to come back to the state as well as saying that things are ‘tightening’ there. The evidence that PA is going red should be with how the safe Democrat seats are becoming suddenly competitive. Rendell is a Democrat and doesn’t want to lose house seats which is another reason to ask Obama to come back.

Pennslyvania is not a New England state, it is a mid-atlantic state. It is mostly a rural state. Obama likely thought Philly and Pittsburgh would be enough to carry the state (Obama is relying on cities to swing entire states his way). But Kerry could barely hold the state even with the Philly machine and the Democrat base on his side. And McCain and Palin are far more popular, campaign wise, than Bush and Cheney were in 2004.

Obama does not have the Democrat base solidified behind him. In states that massively swung to Clinton, such as Pennslyvania, a sizable number of Hillary Clinton supporters are voting for McCain under the banner of ‘Party Unity My Ass’ or ‘PUMA’s. In McCain Campaign offices throughout Pennslyvania, manning their phone banks, are DEMOCRATS which voted for Hillary Clinton. An unholy alliance has developed between senators McCain and Clinton. Both are friends to one another. Both have a framed picture of the other in their offices. The PUMA story is the biggest one not being told about in this election.

Lying to pollsters is frequent and a necessity in Pennslyvania due to the unions. Many union bosses will call their members, posing as a ‘pollster’, and if the member gives the wrong asnwer, a thug is sent to the house. The Teacher’s Union there has sent strict orders to vote for Obama “or else”.

And to add on to Obama’s problems in Pennslyvania is the presence of Nader on the ballot. Nader was blamed for ciphoning away votes from Gore in 2000. Democrats fought hard to keep Nader off the ballot and in 2004, Nader was not on the Pennslyvania ballot. If he was, the state would have likely swung to Bush in 2004. With razor thin margins in 2004, Obama cannot afford a Nader on the ballot in PA.

Pennslyvania may not be a Republican state, but it is a conservative one. Democrats have been slowly losing their grasp over Pennslyvania for quite some time. It has been on the edge for the last eight years, but now it will likely fall off into the Republican column. Color this state red.

36 posted on 11/04/2008 7:41:29 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Undertow

Voted around 9:00 - Red District - lines longer than normal by far (but got reports from others that lines were wrapping around the building earlier) - encouraging.


37 posted on 11/04/2008 7:45:19 AM PST by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: Undertow

I voted absentee in Pike County (extreme Northeast) and my husband just went by the polls, but the line was so long he thought he’d go back later.

Last year we waited in line for about an hour and this year the line is about three or four times as long. There are only 5 voting machines in one location in our township for about 4,000 registered voters. It works out to over 400 people per hour divided by 5 machines so each person would have less than a minute to vote if everything went perfectly.


38 posted on 11/04/2008 7:52:10 AM PST by finnsheep
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To: Undertow
On line about 1/2 hour to vote in Monroeville (middle class Pittsburgh suburb) and the guy next to me in line said he was a poll watcher in Swissvile (close-in downscale, white trash and ghetto suburb) and told me that 3 times as many people had ALREADY voted in Swissvale - as of 10 AM - than had voted in (I forget if he said '04 or '06).

Swissvale voted 72% for Kerry in '04.

The Pittsburgh area may not be quite as infamous for Massive Democrat Vote Fraud as Philadelphia, but we have a long history of it. And on it goes.

My polling place was staffed with only very elderly and ghetto types; the Republican poll watcher was not being allowed inside, and was being harrassed by the Democrat pollwatcher bitch; obvious Democrat "helpers" were "assisting" the elderly with their votes.

The Republican pollwatcher had make a few phone calls and some legal action was being considered.

Big f***ing deal - you don't fight these dirty bastards with cellphones and "legal action". Vote fraud equals treason and the penalty for treason is clearly spelled out. Hopefully it will be enforced very soon - even if we somehow win today - not just at the poll watcher level, but against all who have contributed: judges, media....

39 posted on 11/04/2008 8:02:46 AM PST by PermaRag
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To: Rational Thought
There should be a constable at the polling place, but I know that in some places, they show up for 5 minutes, eat a donut, and then leave--and collect their pay for working the polls that day. :-( But the constable should be the last resort to keeping electioneering at the polls, if the Judge of Elections can't get them away (as well as keeping Law Enforcement Officers of The State away).

Sadly, it's looking like these distinctions might become very important, if Obama's stormtroopers get going.

40 posted on 11/04/2008 8:04:15 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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