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Say Goodbye to America
American Thinker ^ | November 03, 2008 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 11/03/2008 6:15:58 AM PST by NCjim

No matter who wins Tuesday America is going to be a different country.

When the sun rises on November 5, regardless of who the president-elect is, a more un-United States than has existed since the Civil War will wake to dispute the results of the disgusting campaign that has mercifully come to an end.

Whoever the losers, they will believe they were cheated, and will point fingers at those they believe responsible. Almost half the nation will view the winner as illegitimate, and will do everything in their power to undermine his authority as long as he's in the White House.

With this animosity will come a new level of hatred between those of differing political persuasions like nothing our country has experienced in the modern era.

Putting it bluntly, and without sounding too much like Rev. Jeremiah "G-d Damn America" Wright, there will be no such thing as Americans anymore.

Instead, there'll be Democrats and Republicans, Liberals and Conservatives, and encounters between the members of these groups will for years nay decades be at best unfriendly, and at worst quite hostile if not downright violent.

Think this an overstatement? Consider first what Wednesday will look like if John McCain pulls off the upset.

To begin with, let's be very clear about one thing: Democrats believe that if they lose an election it's because their opponent cheated. It's never their fault. It's never because they ran a poor campaign. It's never because their opponent ran a better one.

Heck no!

It's always about voter fraud, disenfranchisement, not enough ballots, faulty machinery, hanging chads, negative advertising, intimidation tactics, campaign finance abuses, you name it.

Such is the legacy of Al Sore Loser Gore: regardless of how many news outlets went to Florida in January 2001 and found that if the counting had continued Bush still would have won, the overwhelming majority of Democrats think that election was stolen.

To make clear the level of victimhood and paranoia, here's what author Erica Jong wrote Friday:

I puzzled for a long time about why the Democrats were not publicizing defective voting machines nor discussing the stolen elections of 2000 and 2004...I fear we are going to have a Tuesday bloody Tuesday. Be prepared -- that's the boy scouts' marching song -- as Tom Lehrer wrote.

Honestly, this woman should write a new book called "Fear of Thinking." But I digress, for you probably can't imagine what's going to happen on Wednesday as Democrats in highly-populated, poor districts around the country complain about voting irregularities and disenfranchisement. But Jong can:

If Obama loses it will spark the second American Civil War. Blood will run in the streets, believe me. And it's not a coincidence that President Bush recalled soldiers from Iraq for Dick Cheney to lead against American citizens in the streets.

Don't dismiss this offhand as the ravings of a lunatic, for lunatics are often right about matters related to lunacy.

To make my point, I offer the now overly-discussed Bradley effect and how it relates to exit polls: How many people as they leave the voting booth Tuesday will lie to pollsters about who they voted for?

Before you answer, try to imagine the pressures many people are going to feel in certain districts around the country to answer "Obama" rather than "McCain" irrespective of the truth. Also consider the possibility that many McCain supporters will just refuse to answer the question thereby skewing the results.

Although Democrat strategist Donna Brazile has talked for months about racism being the elephant in the room this campaign, here's an elephant Donna and her ilk are afraid to address: in some districts in this country, it will be VERY difficult for pollsters to find folks willing to admit they voted for McCain.

With the election as tight as it is, just a few percent of such embarrassed-to-look-like-racists will give the appearance that Obama has won key battleground states.

Here's another elephant: it is almost a metaphysical certitude the exit polls in at least one state will conflict with the actual results thereby opening the door for the perpetually sore losing Democrats to cry foul.

Now that's a big elephant.

Can you imagine the Rodney King-style rioting that might occur as a result, especially when folks like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer, and the usual suspects get in front of television cameras blaming Republicans and John McCain for stealing another election, this time from a black man?

They'll be on all the morning shows Wednesday doing what they do best: fomenting hate, and pointing fingers.

Lest we not forget how quickly Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton will be on planes heading to that state (or states!) with their teeming hordes of NAACP and ACLU lawyers.

Can you imagine the chaos?

But that's just the beginning, for the Obama-loving media are also going to feel scorned, and will spend all day Wednesday airing hideously biased segment after hideously biased segment demonstrating to viewers how Republicans prevented people from voting in largely black districts in the state(s) in question. Op-eds and editorials in newspapers across the fruited plain will do the same.

Rest assured if folks aren't mad enough about the election's outcome, you can count on angry press representatives to stoke the fires of discontent until riots start somewhere, for nothing would please sycophants like Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, and Jack Cafferty more than rioting across the country if McCain wins.

Of course, they'll refer to it as civil disobedience regardless of how uncivil it gets.

And don't expect the Messiah to do anything to quell the hostilities. Being gracious in defeat isn't a Democrat virtue.

Much like Gore and Kerry before him -- readers should recall Kerry not conceding election evening 2004, and, instead waiting for numbers to be verified in Ohio Wednesday where Democrats still believe the election was stolen! -- Obama will likely withhold his concession speech while his lawyers do his bidding.

In fact, they're already preparing for such an eventuality. The Baltimore Sun reported Saturday, "Thousands of lawyers are descending on Florida and Ohio to monitor precincts and spot any irregularities."

You betcha!

On the flipside, although an Obama victory will likely not result in immediate acts of violence, Republicans already feel cheated by this campaign for a number of reasons, and understand full well that they literally have the most to lose in this election; the Messiah, contrary to all his lies on the stump, clearly intends to redistribute wealth, and it sure isn't Republicans that are going to be on the receiving end of the junior senator from Illinois' charity.

But before we get there, let's be perfectly frank: Obama should never have been a presidential candidate in the first place, and, at the very least, should have been quickly discarded by Hillary in either Iowa or New Hampshire.

With the nation involved in two wars, and the economy in trouble, there's no way a freshman senator with so little experience and no significant pieces of legislation under his belt would ever have raised enough money to mount a presidential campaign, and certainly not a successful one.

However, the media gave Obama Messiah-like status the moment he threw his hat into the ring -- thereby making it easy for him to find benefactors! -- and pushed him passed the once-inevitable Hillary. Even worse, they aided and abetted Obama and his minions to dismiss any attacks by the Clinton campaign as racist while diminishing her with sexist and misogynistic barbs disingenuously ignored by a normally feminist press corps.

Once Hillary was tossed aside like so much garbage, media ignored each and every issue that could possibly undermine Obama's ascendancy while savagely attacking Sarah Palin as well as an Ohio plumber that had the unmitigated audacity to actually ask the Messiah a decent question.

Don't even get me started on how the so-called impartial press overlooked every gaffe and misstatement made by Joe Biden while giving the Messiah a pass for going back on his promise to accept public campaign funds instead opting to raise and spend more money on his presidential aspirations than anybody ever believed possible.

As CNN.com reported October 24:

[A]ccording to advertising figures provided by Campaign Media Analysis Group, CNN's consultant on ad spending, Barack Obama's campaign has spent more money selling its candidate on television than most major brand name companies do selling their products.

The Illinois senator's campaign is projected to have spent $250 million on ads in the last four months - a number that is equivalent to $750 million in a full year. Only AT&T, with a yearly advertising budget of about $1.3 billion, and Verizon, which shells out $950 million a year on ads, spends more than the Democratic presidential nominee.

But most major companies spend far less than Obama, including McDonald's ($588 million), Sprint PCS ($482 million), T-Mobile ($404 million), Target ($388 million), and Wal-Mart ($335 million). [...]

"If Obama wins it is clear that the days of being on public financing are over and anyone thinking of running for president in four years will have to ask themselves one question before jumping in - Can I raise $600 million?" said [CMAG's Evan] Tracey.

Just imagine the kind of press McCain would have gotten if he had refused public financing, and spent the kind of ad dollars Obama has. Americans likely would have been told virtually 24 hours a day, seven days a week that rich Republicans were trying to buy the election.

However, because this is the Messiah, such talk was practically verboten.

Without a doubt, the media playing field this campaign season was as un-level as most Americans have probably ever experienced, or, for that matter ever imagined, and if Obama wins, this is going to leave a bad taste in the mouths of Republicans for many years to come.

Such negative sentiments will quickly be magnified when the Messiah, like Bill Clinton before him, goes back on his campaign promise to cut taxes on 95 percent of Americans, and instead announces -- possibly in less than a month -- that taxes will have to be raised for the majority of wage earners.

What will be the catalyst for this decision? The exploding budget deficit, of course.

After all, the fiscal 2009 budget projects unified revenues (including Social Security and Medicare) of $2.7 trillion, and unified expenditures of $3.1 trillion. However, these numbers assume a 2.2 percent growth in the Gross Domestic Product and 5.6 percent unemployment.

Hello? McFly?

We're currently at 6.1 percent unemployment, which will certainly go much higher in the coming months, likely stopping in the eights if we're lucky. And, as the recession has certainly started, 2.2 percent growth in FY '09 seems highly-doubtful. As such, $2.7 trillion in tax receipts might be a very aggressive forecast.

Maybe more important, $3.1 trillion in projected expenditures doesn't include the $700 billion (and counting!) allocated to bailing out failed financial institutions. This means that for the first time since World War II, America will spend 40 percent more than it collects creating a budget deficit almost guaranteed to be in excess of $1 trillion...and everybody in Washington knows it.

With this in mind, the talk coming from Democrats like House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank that tax cuts may have to be postponed next year due to the recession is a lot of pre-election hooey. These folks want higher taxes, and with the Messiah in command, they're gonna get 'em.

Yet, Obama has promised low income voters who don't currently pay federal taxes that they're going to get checks to offset their property and state taxes...and that's a promise this socialist is gonna keep.

You betcha!

As a result, most Americans, in a slowing economy that's making them fearful for their jobs and their futures, will see their income taxes rise as Obama supporters receive checks largely funded by McCain supporters. And that's likely when things will really begin getting ugly, for the class warfare that Obama-Biden have been playing during this campaign will cease being only figurative.

To paraphrase Guido the Killer Pimp from the film "Risky Business," in a sluggish economy, never, ever mess with a man's livelihood.

But that's what the Messiah is going to do, and as a result a lot of normally non-violent folks who "cling to guns or religion" are going to really be feeling "antipathy to people who aren't like them," just not for the reasons Obama believes.

And therein lies the real tragedy, for November 4, 2008, could have been a shining moment in American history. After all, a black man is running for president, and might actually win. This should have united the country like never before, and come close to ending the racism that has been one of our nation's banes since its inception.

However, because Obama used race to get himself to this point, while also pitting folks of differing incomes against each other for his own political benefit, it seems far more likely that tomorrow will divide our country like it hasn't been in over a century ushering back in hatred that will make Martin Luther King Jr. roll over in his grave.

As a result, Tuesday has all the makings of a day that will live in infamy, for what "The One" has wrought will leave behind an America that resembles nothing like what we've asked in song for years be blessed.

Ironically, it seems the Messiah's reverend will get his wish after all.


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To: NCjim
With 80% of people being called by pollsters refusing to participate, the poll results are useless garbage. A quick look at the actual demographics and voting stats across the various states would indicate that Obama cannot draw more than 50 million votes, and this election will bring out record numbers of 130 million or more.

McCain/Palin will win in a clear landslide, and they will take office in January 2009.

Riots may occur in some big cities. We can recover from those and move forward. The media, the pollsters, and the RINOs who betrayed their people and their country will have been exposed for the unscrupulous turncoats they are.

21 posted on 11/03/2008 6:45:34 AM PST by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: NCjim

I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday about this election and what’s happened to society in general, and we both agreed that the United States of America, as we’ve long known it, has effectively ceased to exist.

Thanks to the concentrated assault on traditional institutions by the left over the last couple of decades, America is no longer one nation, but two. I used to poo-poo the idea that America would fall from power one day soon, but I’m not so sure anymore.

My Father, his gerneration and the generations before him that helped make this country great must be spinning in their graves right now.


22 posted on 11/03/2008 6:45:45 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Reagan-1976 Palin-2008)
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To: NCjim
Say Goodbye to America

Shutup, Noel and go put on some dry pants.

23 posted on 11/03/2008 6:47:53 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: awake-n-angry

Without a doubt, that is one of the most thought-out and cogent comments I’ve read on FreeRepublic in a long time.

Well said.

smoke


24 posted on 11/03/2008 6:50:05 AM PST by Smoke6 (And a man said to the Universe, Sir I exist! To which the Universe replied "So what.")
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To: NCjim

ENOUGH of these proclamations of the Apocalypse, let’s just bloody get on with it.


25 posted on 11/03/2008 6:50:53 AM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: kittymyrib

Don’t lump all of NY state into the liberal venom. Most of Upstate is Repulican. I’m talking the smaller cities and the rural people. There has been a referedum for years to seperate into two parts because of our differences.


26 posted on 11/03/2008 6:51:28 AM PST by rstark56
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To: awake-n-angry
Conservatives will point out differences and work to win the next round of elections but we will not call names or snipe at every little thing the way that the anti-American libs did.

No. Clinton was harassed for 8 years over a sex scandal. If they had actually tried him for the treason he enacted into law, things would have gone differently.

Repubs and Dims play the same games. It's part of how screwed up we are now...

27 posted on 11/03/2008 6:51:28 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: NCjim
I think that too many Freepers have apocalyptic fantasies.

While I won't be taking a drive down MLK boulevard on Tuesday night after a McCain win, I'm not expecting a whole lot of nationwide problems.

I don't think that I'd want to be near the "Obama Victory Party" in Chicago, though. That has trouble written all over it.

28 posted on 11/03/2008 6:54:09 AM PST by wbill
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To: wintertime
Is it time to seek peaceful secession?

I strongly suspect you'll be hearing a lot of that over the next 5-10 years.

Let the libs have Maine, NH, VT, MA, NY, RI, CT, NJ, Philadelphia/5 counties, MD, DE and DC

Let Americans have The Heartland. No libs, no illegals, no Federal Gov. welfare/entitlements. The N.E. can turn into a swamp of crime, ethnic strife, multi-lingualism, deficits, sin, and destruction.

I want my Country back.

Owl_Eagle

“When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didn’t just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
‘Look, here’s what happened.’"
-Slow Joe Biden

29 posted on 11/03/2008 6:57:34 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: wintertime

“With this animosity will come a new level of hatred between those of differing political persuasions like nothing our country has experienced in the modern era”.

...I agree 100%! There are areas of my neighborhood where the BO vs McCain yard signs have caused riffs at the school bus stop. Beligerance from BO supporters is very high. There is a complete sense of entitlement from blacks. I don’t say this out of bigotry but because it’s what I see. Nasty looks in my direction as BO people pass me on the highway. If no one else notices these things than your eyes are shut.

I, for one, will be absolutely beyond anger on the 5th if BO wins! Not much I can do but go to the gym and work out my frustrations. BO’s people will go beyond the gym with their anger. These are the people that tear down goal posts, set fire to store fronts, tip over cars and LOOT. They loot because of the sense of entitlement. The “deserve” it.


30 posted on 11/03/2008 6:57:52 AM PST by albie
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To: NCjim

bump


31 posted on 11/03/2008 7:00:02 AM PST by fso301
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To: NCjim
Almost half the nation will view the winner as illegitimate, and will do everything in their power to undermine his authority as long as he's in the White House.

You mean like the past 8 years.
32 posted on 11/03/2008 7:00:10 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (Thanks to the robber barons in D.C. and on Wall St. I've been forced to become a minimalist.)
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To: Dead Corpse; Smoke6

I suggest that we transcend GOP vs. Dem and remember we are conservatives. I am not even suggesting that we focus on conservative vs. lib. I am suggersting that we focus on rtationally make the conservative argument and we will win.

Sure, its going to smart to see liberals gloat and carry on if this thing turns out like most are suggesting, but don’t allow an emotional response to this spectacle knock us off our goal and message. They are static and we have a message. If you let them change our message or take us off topic, they have won more then an election.


33 posted on 11/03/2008 7:01:47 AM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: NCjim

McCain loves this country. The skinny little black racist Muslim kid hates this country.


34 posted on 11/03/2008 7:02:06 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: kittymyrib
The Socialist states should be separated from the American states, in a peaceful way, if possible.

Actually, if you look closely, those socialist states are actually densly populated urban areas voting socialist while most of the states counties actually vote republican.

By repealing the 17th amendment, US Senators will no longer be able to view large urban areas as power bases. This will go a long way towards real progress.

35 posted on 11/03/2008 7:03:55 AM PST by fso301
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To: NCjim

“...there will be no such thing as Americans anymore.”

This has been a long time coming.

The US is not anything like the country I grew up in. It is more culturally splintered, morally ambiguous, socially unstable and politically trite and jejune than I could ever have expected to see it become in my wildest nightmare.

My grandparents came here in the ‘20’s and could not wait to become citizens. They could not Americanize fast enough.

They still cooked like they did in the old country, played the same ethnic music attended the same church as before, BUT with one huge difference…. they could think of no higher compliment to pay themselves or each other than the word “American”!!!!! They identified immediately, fully and permanently with the United States of America. They sent their sons to Europe, the Pacific and Korea to fight and die for their country…“America”.

The moral and social cohesion this produced has been squandered by unscrupulous politicians who have forfeit the wholesomeness of the ‘melting pot’ for the intellectually flawed vision of multiculturalism… with all the miasmic antagonism it brings….and all this to advance their own careers.

I am heartily sick to death of ‘Politicians’ who have set themselves up as a class apart and who have assumed a nauseating paternalism for our ‘welfare’. Isn’t this just exactly why our families left the ‘old country’?


36 posted on 11/03/2008 7:03:59 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: NCjim

“No matter who wins Tuesday America is going to be a different country”

This is nothing but a silly person trying to say if McCain wins he won by cheating. It goes on to say the campaign was “disgusting”. Obama and his supporters attacked at very childish levels everything Republican. They are the ones who were disgusting, but in true liberal form, they want to say “everyone” was disgusting so no one is at fault. Well, we all know the liberals are at fault. The day, the very day Palin was chosen they attacked her daughter as having the baby and not Sarah. That was disgusting. They continued to attack Palin and then Joe the Plumber. They used every means of nasty, but now that they might not win they want to claim “everyone” did it; just like young teeneragers say, “But, Dad, EVERYONE does it!”

The blame for a very childish and disgusting campaign goes to Obama and his liberal supporters.


37 posted on 11/03/2008 7:06:44 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: NCjim
If Obama loses it will spark the second American Civil War. Blood will run in the streets, believe me. And it's not a coincidence that President Bush recalled soldiers from Iraq for Dick Cheney to lead against American citizens in the streets.

Thank God that I live in an area not prone to such riots. I will agree with this psychopath that the second American Civil War is looming as a distinct possibility, because the deep, divisive differences in our core values and our view of our country and our world are so vast that there is no chance of unity and reconciliation.

We will stand for what we believe in, and they will lie and cheat for what they believe in. If they want a war, BRING IT. I'm not backing down and I'm not accepting "fundamental change" in my country. I will repeat for clarity, BRING IT.

38 posted on 11/03/2008 7:09:08 AM PST by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: NCjim

God help us all. What tangled political and cultural mess have we left for our children and grandchildren? Where has the once cherished dream of Liberty and Prosperity gone to? The dream that literally millions chased to our shores to find and enjoy? Socialism has never worked as designed, and never will!

I’m sorry to sound so pessimistic, yet I fear for my country if this false “ObaMessiah” is elected. I gave 21 years of my life in uniform to defend the liberty and vitality of that dream. I cannot stand the thought of it all dying when the hands of an “empty promise” takes the reigns of government.

Rant over.


40 posted on 11/03/2008 7:12:30 AM PST by NCDragon (If you can't stand behind the troops, try standing in front of them!)
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