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What is the Bradley Effect? {Truth: the new Intimidation Factor = "Bradley-squared"}
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | November 2, 2008 | Eric Mink

Posted on 11/02/2008 3:08:41 PM PST by JustTheTruth

So now, in the waning days of the campaign, here is the alleged storyline: Those polls that show Barack Obama leading in the race against John McCain for president? Even widening his lead? Those polls are warped.

According to some, among the millions of Americans who are telling pollsters that they could vote for Mr. Obama, there are (thousands of? millions of?) closeted racists who will not vote -- who never would vote -- for a black candidate under any circumstances. Their votes could tip the election to Mr. McCain.

In politically obsessed circles, this supposed phenomenon is known as the Bradley Effect: Going into the election for California governor in 1982, polls gave Democratic Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley a lead of anywhere from nine to 22 points over his Republican opponent, state Attorney General George Deukmejian. After the votes were cast and counted on Nov. 2, Mr. Bradley had lost by 1.2 percentage points.

Mr. Bradley, who died in 1998 and was regarded as an honourable public servant and builder of bridges among cultures, was African-American. The discrepancy between how well Mr. Bradley seemed to be doing before Election Day and how things actually turned out generally has been attributed to racism: When protected by the secret ballot, voters with hidden or repressed racist attitudes vote for the white guys -- no matter what they might tell pollsters.

The problem with trying to apply the Bradley Effect to Mr. Obama's candidacy is that it's not 1982. It is, rather, 2008, and the United States has changed.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; antichrist; bradleyeffect; hypnosis; obama; stalinists
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"The problem with trying to apply the Bradley Effect to Mr. Obama's candidacy is that it's not 1982. It is, rather, 2008, and the United States has changed."

Yes, but they're missing WHAT has changed ...

The change is that today, in 2008, the issue is MUCH less a concern about the black race of the candidate, and is MUCH more a concern about being (falsely, unjustly) labeled a "racist," and being intimidated - perhaps forcefully so - by the culture-dominating liberal fascists who will figuratively, and perhaps even literally, beat down anyone with the courage to speak out with a different viewpoint.

We've become, culturally, much more like the traditional Soviet Union in terms of people looking around before whispering disagreement with the "new" State mafioso: Barack Hussein Obama and his thugs who will use any means possible, including instruments of the State, to silence and stifle dissent or political threats.

It isn't racism that distorts today's polls, it is plainly-evident political-correctness with force and a vengeance, which is keeping many whites, many jews, and many hispanics from daring to say what is in their hearts: that they fear the America Barack Hussein Obama is determined to create - the America that he dares not admit is in his aspiration.

1 posted on 11/02/2008 3:08:41 PM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: JustTheTruth
Good observation.

Not to mention that Mink is an obnoxious little lefty punk who can't call a day complete without whining about something.

2 posted on 11/02/2008 3:13:09 PM PST by SAJ
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To: JustTheTruth

Unions are calling their members in PA, and probably elsewhere and telling them they “better vote for Fauxbama or else”. Now you get a call like this, are you going to tell a pollster that calls you later you are planning to vote McCain?

The Polls are ajoke folks... McCains winning this, and going to do it by a larger margin than Bush did in 04.


3 posted on 11/02/2008 3:14:44 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: SAJ
Wonder how many moderate democrats are voting for McCain but talking about Obama after seeing the "get in their face" attacks of the koolaid drinkers. Remember, its not what you tell a pollster, it's what you do in the confines of the secret ballot station.

Obambi is in for a surprise.

4 posted on 11/02/2008 3:18:33 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If You Have A BRAIN - You'll Vote For MCCAIN)
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Another angle is that Union voters might somewhat legitimately be afraid of telling someone on the phone they are voting for McCain. While it is a little bit whacky, there could be doubt in their mind about whether how they responded would get back to a union boss. After all, it isn’t really, technically anonymous if someone has your phone number. Even if it doesn’t happen in reality, it only matters if someone thinks it COULD happen to them.

I think that is especially so in this election, with the authoritarian nature of this campaign.


5 posted on 11/02/2008 3:18:55 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: JustTheTruth

Spot on.

Let’s hope there’s enough justified fear of Dear Leader Chairman MaoBama to deal him a resounding defeat.


6 posted on 11/02/2008 3:20:30 PM PST by dsc
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To: SAJ
Not to mention that Mink is an obnoxious little lefty punk....

LOL. I see you are familiar with Eric.

7 posted on 11/02/2008 3:22:43 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Bahbah

Yah. He’s back at the local birdcage-liner after bombing out in NYC. Who’d have thought that the lefties in NYC had such (comparatively) good taste, eh?


8 posted on 11/02/2008 3:26:43 PM PST by SAJ
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To: JustTheTruth
You know this is good that this is out there. There is another aspect tied to this mentioned by Tammy Bruce on her Saturday afternoon show. The fact that Obama feeling that it is a done deal has spread this about, makes it worse for the Obamite die-hards.

Rainy weather at the Grant Park, Chicago facilities even though there may be clear weather...
9 posted on 11/02/2008 3:36:03 PM PST by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: JustTheTruth
The change is that today, in 2008, the issue is MUCH less a concern about the black race of the candidate, and is MUCH more a concern about being (falsely, unjustly) labeled a "racist," and being intimidated - perhaps forcefully so - by the culture-dominating liberal fascists who will figuratively, and perhaps even literally, beat down anyone with the courage to speak out with a different viewpoint.

I think you are on to something there. I call it the "Joe the Plumber" effect. There is a part of the population that sees people like Joe who do not support Obama get slimed and investigated. The ones not at tough as Joe do what is a normal human response... avoid conflict. How do you avoid conflict w/ a pollster? Say "undecided." It's as simple as that I think.

10 posted on 11/02/2008 3:37:26 PM PST by The Hound Passer
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To: SAJ
"The Big Rock-Candy Mountains"

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains you're going on a holiday
Your birthday comes around once a week and it’s Christmas every day
You never have to clean your room or put your toys away
There's a little white horse you can ride of course
You can jump so high you can touch the sky
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

11 posted on 11/02/2008 3:39:47 PM PST by alloysteel (For me, the election is over. I voted early for Sarah.)
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To: HamiltonJay
McCain's winning this, and going to do it by a larger margin than Bush did in 04.

Yes - Take the W states in 2004, and add PA and NH At least... Maybe WI, MN.... ME, OR, WA???
12 posted on 11/02/2008 3:39:53 PM PST by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: HamiltonJay
How do you know this?!?!There is not a single poll in McCain's favor. None! Cripes, even George Will is ceding this thing to Obama by over 100 EV's. Folks, I admit it, I'm sick and I'm scared. I'm voting, but I'm scared.
13 posted on 11/02/2008 3:42:21 PM PST by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: BigEdLB

I just don’t see McCain taking WI. Neither side acts like the state is in play.

The NRA endorsed a leftist incumbent congressman over a solid pro-gun challenger in the Fox Valley because the incumbent isn’t aggressively anti-gun.

The political ads have tailed off and the candidates aren’t coming in the days before the election.

Obama will win WI by several percentage points.


14 posted on 11/02/2008 3:45:09 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Crimson Elephant

***After all, it isn’t really, technically anonymous if someone has your phone number***

If they have your land line number, they can get your address, also your name.

People know this.

I don’t answer them at all.


15 posted on 11/02/2008 3:48:34 PM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: HamiltonJay

Unions should be outlawed. They may have once served a purpose, but they’re usefulness is now long gone.


16 posted on 11/02/2008 4:03:35 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.)
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To: SAJ
Not to mention that Mink is an obnoxious little lefty punk who can't call a day complete without whining about something.

And he looks like your typical liberal (are they inbreeding or what?):


17 posted on 11/02/2008 4:13:07 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: JustTheTruth

Right, it is fear of being called a racist that prompts the Bradley Effect.
And here is how it works.
It ISN’T people lying to pollsters claiming they’re supporting 0bama when they’re not!
It is a certain segment (mostly Democrats and independents) REFUSING to participate. Their place in the poll is then filled by 0bama supporters who have no reason to fell intimidated, inflating 0bama’s support among Democrats and independents, as much of the ‘PUMA vote’ goes undetected.

The problem with the polls is participants are self-selecting.


18 posted on 11/02/2008 4:15:27 PM PST by counterpunch (It's the SOCIALISM, Stupid!)
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To: JustTheTruth

Right, it is fear of being called a racist that prompts the Bradley Effect.
And here is how it works.
It ISN’T people lying to pollsters claiming they’re supporting 0bama when they’re not!
It is a certain segment (mostly Democrats and independents) REFUSING to participate. Their place in the poll is then filled by 0bama supporters who have no reason to feel intimidated, inflating 0bama’s support among Democrats and independents, as much of the ‘PUMA vote’ goes undetected.

The problem with the polls is participants are self-selecting.


19 posted on 11/02/2008 4:16:14 PM PST by counterpunch (It's the SOCIALISM, Stupid!)
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To: JustTheTruth

Even if the polls were properly weighted to what Tuesday’s turnout will be (which they aren’t) the Democrat and independent support would be inflated for 0bama. Republicans refusing to participate would not throw off Republican support numbers for 0bama... it is only self-selecting of Democrats and independents that throws off a weighted poll’s balance.


20 posted on 11/02/2008 4:18:58 PM PST by counterpunch (It's the SOCIALISM, Stupid!)
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