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GOP internal polling ... McCain landslide? (grain of salt / feel good alert)
Quinn and Rose Radio Show

Posted on 10/31/2008 4:52:28 AM PDT by The G Man

A regular caller to the Quinn and Rose radio program, "Carl from Ohio," who claims to be involved in the McCain campaign's internal polling operation (I know, I know ...), says that unless the Obama fraud is so widespread it will be a McCain landslide.

Here is what he says the GOP internal state by state polling is showing for last night:

NJ M - 48, O - 43, U-7
MI M - 44, O- 42, U - 10
CA O - 44, M - 43, Barr - 3, U - 9
PA M - 55, O - 33, U - 10

He says undecideds are breaking 4:1 for McCain.

In Pennsylvania, the Dem vote is O - 47, M - 37, U - 13

#1 issue for Dems voting for McCain is the that Obama is cheating and trying to buy the election


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To: The G Man

“NJ M - 48, O - 43, U-7
MI M - 44, O- 42, U - 10
CA O - 44, M - 43, Barr - 3, U - 9
PA M - 55, O - 33, U - 10”

As much as i’d like to believe them these numbers do not seem the least bit credible. Obama is not up one in California and he is not down twenty-two in PA.


141 posted on 10/31/2008 7:07:54 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

bttt


142 posted on 10/31/2008 7:09:07 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: The G Man; All

Absurd does not come close to describing this.

Only one point behind in California? Please.

What a crock of shit.

Yeah, McCain will win, but this would be 350 electoral votes. That is insanity.


143 posted on 10/31/2008 7:09:22 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: SterlingSilver

“The results are simply shocking. The polls showed Barack Obama with an 18 point lead in California just a few days ago. The results thus far are the complete opposite. In the most liberal state in the entire country,the results are that 99,000 Republicans have voted and 96,000 Democrats voted. In the mail-in balloting the results so far are that 9,000 Democrats sent in their ballots and that 5,000 Republicans did so. So with nearly 210,000 people having voted,the Democrats have only a 1,000 vote advantage!””

You can’t put in too much stock on those things. In NC registered Dems outvoted R’s more than two to one in the first week of early voting. I don’t think anyone thinks the Dems are winning NC two to one.


144 posted on 10/31/2008 7:10:37 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Gvl_M3

Don’t forget - hillbuzz and hillaryis44.com


145 posted on 10/31/2008 7:12:24 AM PDT by shadowspapa (All your income are belong to us)
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To: Finalapproach29er
While I do not think McCain could win PA by those numbers, I think a good size win possible. NO, pollster has caught what is happening in most reliable part of the democrat base after blacks. The whites over 40 are not voting or voting McCain in huge numbers. They talk about Bradley effect but they are oversampling dems in these polls by huge margins to cover up the drop of democrats not voting dem and are ignoring the undecideds that are too high this close to the election. Those undecided voters being in larger percentages in blue states than in red say it all.

Pollsters know exactly what is going on and are refusing to let the public know Obama is in huge trouble.

146 posted on 10/31/2008 7:12:37 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Numbers Guy
Obama doesn't have PA sewn up. I am not arguing in any way that Obama has this election sewn up. I am arguing that the polling results cited in the original post are ridiculous garbage. We shouldn't put our hopes in random anonymous phone calls to radio stations. We all would love for Obama to be 20 points behind right now, but he's not. McCain is trailing narrowly and hopefully the undecideds break his way so he can pull it out. But he's not running way ahead in Pennsylvania and all these other states. If he was, he wouldn't be hanging out there either. Palin's time is a scarce resource (just as all the candidates' time is at this point). If she's being sent to Indiana it's because they are concerned about that state. That doesn't mean they're behind there, but that belies the notion that McCain is way ahead in a bunch of key states.

I agree that the post was not based on anything tangible.

But, the fact is that some polls have shown some NE States in play.

I think Obama is going to have a lot of problems with Hillary voters as well as other minority voters, who don't, frankly, like Blacks at all.

As for Palin, it could be that she is needed to help for some other candidates raise funds and rally support.

147 posted on 10/31/2008 7:12:49 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: MichiganCheese; All
“It’s that 98% voter fraud registration in Detoilet that concerns me.”

OK, everyone needs to stop and think about this ...

Detroit's population has shrank. The RAT voter fraud in Wayne co has been there every election.

If Detroit, with its 90+% black population, could control the state vote, how did the affirmative action ban pass by a wide margin??

If MI is a blue state with mostly RAT control why did so many RATS want to get rid of affirmative action?

Does anyone think that perhaps the majority of the RATS in Mi were screwed over by affirmative action in the past?

What does affirmative action, which the majority of MI voters hate, and the RAT POTUS candidate have in common?

Take your time thinking it over, this test isn't timed or graded.

148 posted on 10/31/2008 7:15:41 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: MichiganCheese
It’s that 98% voter fraud registration in Detoilet that concerns me.

How many more than 105% can they bring in before the feds are called? Somehow with Acorn stuff this year wacky numbers are going to be scrutinized.

149 posted on 10/31/2008 7:16:14 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron

I hope your right M-C.

There may be riots thanks to the shock.
The media would be responsible. IMO


150 posted on 10/31/2008 7:16:20 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: The G Man

I called into MN yesterday and frankly it wouldn’t surprise me. I was supposed to call WI but when the person I work with remembered that Norman, OK, and Adrian Perterson of the Vikings were closely connected, I was switched ot MN.

About 90% of the phone calls mentioned Adrian Peterson being from Norman and the University of Oklahoma. The wanted to talk football and then would end with we are voting for McCain the Palins — they love Todd Palin up there.

Have made calls for years and this is the first time I can say I have enjoyed a lot of the people I have talked with. This campaign is different this time — even with some Dems I have talked with, they don’t like Obama. In fact, quite a few I talked to from across the board would never vote for someone out of the ‘crooked’ Daley machine of Chicago.

One guy told me last night if the Bears coach is for Obama, I am for McCain and at the time didn’t know Smith had said anything about Obama so he proceeded to read me what Smith had to say and then he blasted the Bears as he was a Vikings fan. It was hilarious. Then I come on here and discover the thread and cannot quit laughing. I didn’t laugh a lot in 2000 or 2004 and wanted to crawl in a hole in 2006 but this time it is different on phone calls.

NJ doesn’t surprise me after the primary. People have told me it was going to McCain but then I am always hearing that about NJ. There is one difference, McCain/Palin was able to mobilize those groups for Rudy that were all over NJ according to several women I used to work with.

The PA numbers seem high but with the number of disenfranchised Dems in the state of PA anything could happen. Two different groups of Dems for McCain are headed into PA this weekend. One group from NY and the other going to McCain/Arnold in Columbus and driving into PA tonight to he the Western side tomorrow so they will be on both sides of the State of PA.

Would like to be close in CA because the overall numbers of voters would be way down for Obama after the Heartland gets done with him from the Dakotas to Texas!


151 posted on 10/31/2008 7:23:29 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Lady Heron

see 148


152 posted on 10/31/2008 7:24:36 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: mquinn

Frisky.


153 posted on 10/31/2008 7:25:11 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Tribune7

My Democrat in-laws in Upstate NY are all voting McCain — I had to be picked up off the floor for that one. Ditto most of their town of 35,000. That NEVER happens.

When I was with the Rudy campaign, the NJ Women for Rudy was the most active and organized that I have ever seen out of a group of women. MN was pretty close but NJ was the best. Those women transferred their support to McCaina and Palin when asked just like the rest of us did and gone full speed ahead since those days. NJ could be the sleeper of the night!


154 posted on 10/31/2008 7:26:33 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: The G Man
He says undecideds are breaking 4:1 for McCain.

This is as I expected. The unprecedentedly high number of "undecideds" was because people were reluctant to lie to pollsters. But they didn't want to appear racist, so they said they had not yet decided. I wouldn't be surprised if almost all of the undecideds vote for McCain.

155 posted on 10/31/2008 7:26:42 AM PDT by giotto
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To: Numbers Guy
Palin's time is a scarce resource (just as all the candidates' time is at this point). If she's being sent to Indiana it's because they are concerned about that state. That doesn't mean they're behind there, but that belies the notion that McCain is way ahead in a bunch of key states.

Palin was in Indiana a couple days ago and it got coverage in Ohio and Kentucky. That's a way to kill 3 birds with one stone.

Ohio is iffy, IN shouldn't be, and KY should be home free, but they need to also worry about turnout. Sometimes, that's what rallies are for as well.

156 posted on 10/31/2008 7:26:50 AM PDT by Saab-driving Yuppie (The McCain operation is not a "campaign." It is a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Thanks for the update and your excellent service.


157 posted on 10/31/2008 7:28:03 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Mr. Brightside

There has been a group for McCain sitting in MI and the PUMAs have been out campaigning for McCain. There are ads on the TV from several groups. Obama pulled out shortly after McCain in MI which allowed the 527 to go pulling into MI and run ads, campaign across the state, and Obama never did answer in MI.

Resources were not there to try and pull MI red nor WI or MN but they could all go red before this is over or be very close. They have relied on people on the ground and the 527’s. In MN, it would be Sen Coleman who has been everywhere that pulls McCain across in MN.


158 posted on 10/31/2008 7:30:27 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

I have no idea who is running Obama’s strategy but putting ads into Cincy will bring out every last Republican in that part of the Country and there are a lot. There is a horrible black area of Cincy that had the riots several years ago and I refuse to drive it ever again when I back there.

People remember! This is throwing away money IMHO!


159 posted on 10/31/2008 7:33:24 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Aquinasfan

Same here. In Western MA and Northern CT, I generally see more McCain signs than Obama signs. The one exception being the wealthy suburb of Longmeadow. Apparently people in that town want to be forced to move somewhere more affordable.


160 posted on 10/31/2008 7:35:00 AM PDT by liberte
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