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How can Catholics be voting for Obama? (Mother Teresa speaks on Abortion
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Posted on 10/29/2008 11:29:44 AM PDT by erkyl

"America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has sown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father's role in an increasingly fatherless society. It has portrayed the greatest of gifts -- a child -- as a competitor, an intrusion, and an inconvenience. (a punishment?) It has nominally accorded mothers unfettered dominion over the independent lives of their physically dependent sons and daughters. And, in granting this unconscionable power, it has exposed many women to unjust and selfish demands from their husbands or other sexual partners. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being's entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign." (Mother Theresa -- "Notable and Quotable," Wall Street Journal, 2/25/94, p. A14)

"But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child - a direct killing of the innocent child - murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion? As always, we must persuade her with love, and we remind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts. Jesus gave even his life to love us. So the mother who is thinking of abortion, should be helped to love - that is, to give until it hurts her plans, or her free time, to respect the life of her child. The father of that child, whoever he is, must also give until it hurts. By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And by abortion, the father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. That father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion. "

"Please don't kill the child. I want the child. Please give me the child. I am willing to accept any child who would be aborted, and to give that child to a married couple who will love the child, and be loved by the child. From our children's home in Calcutta alone, we have saved over 3,000 children from abortions. These children have brought such love and joy to their adopting parents, and have grown up so full of love and joy!" February 1997 - National Prayer Breakfast in Washington attended by the President and the First Lady.

"What is taking place in America," she said, "is a war against the child. And if we accept that the mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another."

"Any country that accepts abortion, is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what it wants."

"It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."


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KEYWORDS: abortion; antichrist; catholics; obama; prolife
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1 posted on 10/29/2008 11:29:45 AM PDT by erkyl
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To: erkyl

most catholics take pride in not being fundamentalists (like the baptist) and probably resent voting with them...definitely an elitist air with most of them.. (I’m catholic)


2 posted on 10/29/2008 11:32:07 AM PDT by WesA (RE think that.)
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To: WesA
Sad that their own personal pride could be more important than doing the right thing.

Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Prov. 16:18
3 posted on 10/29/2008 11:36:30 AM PDT by erkyl (Obama has always been a baby-killer)
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To: erkyl

and what better example than hopefully our future first lady Cindy McCain who saved a child


4 posted on 10/29/2008 11:38:12 AM PDT by Ceoman
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To: WesA

A BIG..........BS!


5 posted on 10/29/2008 11:40:32 AM PDT by notaliberal
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To: erkyl

Beliefs only apply on Sundays.


6 posted on 10/29/2008 11:42:49 AM PDT by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: erkyl

As a Roman Catholic in the Peoples Republic of NY, I was disheartened not to hear any preaching in the last month on the evils of abortion. Lots of talk about “not leaving Jesus out of the voting booth,” but nothing on the “constitutional right” that has snuffed out the lives of 47 million children since Roe.

Brought it up with my pastor this past weekend, my disappointment in this lack of preaching, especially with one of the most radical abortion rights advocates running for president in my lifetime. Needless to say, I don’t think it made a huge difference. No one seems to want to address the issue here.

Anyone sensing the same in their churches/synagogues?


7 posted on 10/29/2008 11:44:46 AM PDT by deputac (NYPD & FDNY: The Other Twin Towers of New York)
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To: erkyl
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, how I love Mother Teresa. Thank you for publishing this ...

She wrote my husband and we published the note online. Here's a link if you'd like to read it. Try out her suggested prayer if you like. I've been saying it for years.

(Many Catholics just do not understand their faith ... that is what allows them to vote for B.O.)
8 posted on 10/29/2008 11:46:21 AM PDT by mlizzy
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This Catholic family of five voting age members, all cast votes for McCain. Most Catholics I know, even ones I would describe as liberal are supporting McCain. When Gov. Palin came to town I saw many members of my parish in attendance.


9 posted on 10/29/2008 11:52:02 AM PDT by Rocket1968 (Durbin must resign - NOW!)
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To: erkyl

I’m a Catholic and next Tuesday I will go to the polls and cast my vote for president of the United States. On Tuesday night I will take a good hard look at my hands and see not one trace of the blood of unborn innocent children. I expect to sleep very well on Tuesday night. What about the rest of you?


10 posted on 10/29/2008 11:55:22 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: erkyl; nickcarraway; Lady In Blue; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; Catholicguy; RobbyS; markomalley; ..

I love this post with 4 foot+ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta giving Americans the truth!


11 posted on 10/29/2008 12:19:09 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: deputac
Perhaps you did not see this. (It is also posted in the Religion Forum.)

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/oct/08102710.html

 

Over 80 Bishops Say Abortion/Life Issues Defining Issues of Election

By Tim Waggoner

WASHINGTON, October 27, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A comprehensive list compiled by InsideCatholic.com reveals that more than 80 U.S. bishops have proclaimed abortion and the life issues to be the defining issues in the upcoming election, including 22 bishops who signed on to a joint statement by the New York bishops, and another 10 bishops who signed on to a Pennsylvania joint statement.

Just three days ago, LifeSiteNews.com reported that popular Catholic writer and blogger Rocco Palmo had calculated that approximately 50 bishops have proclaimed abortion and the life issues to be the defining issues in the election; but according to InsideCatholic the number is significantly greater than that.

Increasingly, and with increasing urgency, the shepherds of the U.S. Church are encouraging their flock to see the gift of life as the most important election issue – even in the midst of a war and a struggling economy.  As the New York bishops write, "The inalienable right to life of every innocent human person outweighs other concerns where Catholics may use prudential judgment, such as how best to meet the needs of the poor or to increase access to health care for all."

Many of the bishops have also observed that abortion is not the only violation against the right to life that voters must consider, but have urged Catholics to consider the candidate's positions on euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research, and other violations against the human embryo.

With one presidential candidate promising to promote a culture of life and the other vowing to put as one of his highest priorities the extreme pro-abortion Freedom of Choice Act, this election has seen an increasing number of bishops courageously defending life.

After listing several offenses against life, the Most Reverend Joseph F. Naumann and the Most Reverend Robert W. Finn, only two of the 80 plus bishops to highlight the life issues as the most urgent issues currently facing America, said in a joint statement, "A properly formed conscience must give such issues priority even over other matters with important moral dimensions."

U.S. Archbishop Raymond L. Burke, prefect of the Vatican's highest court, said the Democratic Party "risks transforming itself definitively into a 'party of death."

The determination of these bishops to reach Catholic voters appears to be paying off.

Investor's Business Daily and the TechnoMetrica Institute of Policy and Politics (IBD/TIPP) has released a tracking poll that shows a dramatic shift in opinion that may be a result of the bishops' guidance to their flocks.

IBD/TIPP reported on Thursday that John McCain has gone from an 11-point deficit to a 9-point lead over Barack Obama among Catholic voters.

According to the Drudge Report, IBD/TIPP was the most accurate pollster for the 2004 election.

See InsideCatholic.com's article here: http://insidecatholic.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_myblog...

InsideCatholic.com's list of bishops proclaiming abortion as the main election issue:

(Note that numbers 58 and 59 encompass 22 and 10 bishops respectively, who are included in joint statements issued by the bishops of New York and Pennsylvania)

1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver
2. Bishop James Conley, auxiliary of Denver
3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.
4. Justin Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities
5. Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine
6. Edward Cardinal Egan of New York
7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo
8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh
9. Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs
10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio
11. Bishop Oscar Cantu, auxiliary of San Antonio
12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville
13. Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa
14. Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas
15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin
16. Sean Cardinal O'Malley of Boston
17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando
18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis
19. Francis Cardinal George of Chicago, President of the USCCB
20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker
21. Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse
22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland
23. Bishop Ralph Nickless of Sioux City
24. Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco
25. Bishop Glen Provost of Lake Charles, LA
26. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn
27. Bishop Joseph F. Martino of Scranton
28. Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura
30. Bishop Peter J. Jugis of Charlotte
31. Bishop Michael F. Burbidge of Raleigh
32. Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, KS
33. Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO
34. Bishop Robert C. Morlino of Madison, WS
35. Bishop Ronald Gilmore of Dodge City, KS
36. Bishop Paul Coakley of Salina, KS
37. Bishop Michael Jackels of Wichita
38. Bishop Gerald M. Barbarito of Palm Beach
39. Bishop Kevin W. Vann of Fort Worth
40. Bishop Rene H. Gracida, retired, of Corpus Christi
41. Daniel Cardinal DiNardo of Houston
42. Bishop Paul S. Loverde of Arlington
43. Bishop Francis X. DiLorenzo of Richmond
44. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Center
45. Bishop Robert McManus of Worcester
46. Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Patterson
47. Bishop Robert Herrmann of St. Louis
48. Archbishop Edwin O'Brien of Baltimore
49. Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted of Phoenix
50. Bishop Thomas D. Doran of Rockford
51. Bishop Joseph A. Galante of Camden
52. Bishop Robert J. Baker of Birmingham
53. Archbishop Alexander J. Brunett of Seattle
54. Bishop J. Peter Sartain of Joliet
55. Bishop John M. Smith of Trenton
56. Bishop Earl Boyea of Lansing
57. Bishop Leonard R. Blair of Toledo
58. Joint Statement by the bishops of New York State (22 bishops)
59. Joint Statement by the bishops of Pennsylvania (10 bishops)


12 posted on 10/29/2008 12:21:15 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: erkyl
How can Catholics be voting for Obama? (Mother Teresa speaks on Abortion
They can't.
Those that do aren't Catholics and have lost their soul.

(just my opinion)

13 posted on 10/29/2008 12:29:25 PM PDT by Condor51 (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is the body count!)
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To: veritas2002
I’m a Catholic and next Tuesday I will go to the polls and cast my vote for president of the United States. On Tuesday night I will take a good hard look at my hands and see not one trace of the blood of unborn innocent children. I expect to sleep very well on Tuesday night. What about the rest of you?

I voted a week ago today. Been sleeping well each night since.

14 posted on 10/29/2008 12:29:55 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: erkyl

A lot of it has to do with bishops not using discipline to teach what the Church says on the subject of baby butchery. I think that this is going to be a much bigger scandal than the homosexualist priest scandal.

Freegards


15 posted on 10/29/2008 12:32:25 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: al_c

Voted today and I’m praying for a just outcome on Tuesday.


16 posted on 10/29/2008 12:38:22 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: WesA
most catholics take pride in not being fundamentalists (like the baptist) and probably resent voting with them...definitely an elitist air with most of them.. (I’m catholic)

Thank you for saying that!

That's also probably one reason for the Catholic affinity for evolution and higher criticism. It's so important not to be one of "those people" that Catholics have crawled into bed with atheist German Protestant theologians.

There may be illiterate Catholic peasants in other countries but in America it's a religion for urban immigrants with a chip on their shoulder. And just why rural Americans are so much less desirable than illiterate rural Guatemalans or Sicilians or Irish is absolutely infuriating!

17 posted on 10/29/2008 12:39:39 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shofekh dam ha'adam, ba'adam damo yishafekh; ki betzelem 'Eloqim `asah 'et-ha'adam.)
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There may be illiterate Catholic peasants in other countries but in America it's a religion for urban immigrants with a chip on their shoulder.

Traditionally, yes. It also should be said that such an image leads many upwardly mobile folks who were raised Catholic to jettison religion entirely, considering themselves to having "evolved" from their peasant/prole origins.

If white Catholics voted like white Mormons or white Baptists, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania would be Republican states.

18 posted on 10/29/2008 12:43:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: erkyl

Amen.


19 posted on 10/29/2008 12:44:24 PM PDT by wordsofearnest ("The fundamental solution (w/b) that there is no longer any need to immigrate")
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To: erkyl

Catholics who might vote for BO are not Catholic - they only imagine themselves to be. These would generally fall into the same catagory that like to pick and choose their theology and think the Church should change to accomodate their current personal understanding of the world.


20 posted on 10/29/2008 12:46:04 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth ($750 billion is nothing - surrender your children, wealth and gold fillings now to avoid the rush.)
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