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If McCain loses, what next for conservatives?
Reuters ^ | Oct 26, 2008 | Ed Stoddard

Posted on 10/26/2008 7:57:44 AM PDT by TheNewPundit

DALLAS (Reuters) - If Republican John McCain loses the November 4 election as most polls predict, his party may be in for a rough period of soul searching.

Analysts and some party activists say losing the White House will highlight the pitfalls of relying too heavily on a narrow foundation of conservative Christians whose support has nonetheless become crucial to Republican electoral success.

But some social conservatives say a victory for Democrat Barack Obama, whom they regard as an "ultra-liberal," will energize them for the 2010 congressional "mid-term" races and the 2012 White House battle.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2010; conservative; mccain; nomorerinos; obama; sarahpalin2012
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To: longtermmemmory

2012 Sara/Joe Ticket!!


81 posted on 10/26/2008 8:39:24 AM PDT by conservative_cyclist (doodan)
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To: sonic109

Win or lose, we start on November 5th.

We start by identifying the Vichy Republicans, and then move to Intellectuals who are supposedly Conservatives or Republicans, and then we make a “acceptable/unacceptable” list of them backed up by evidence of their skulduggery.

I honestly believe McCain/Palin has a excellent shot of winning this election in spite of the massive MSM bias, I also truly believe our so called opinion leaders have stabbed us in the back, and we should never, never, never forget them or what they have done.

For example, look at Drudge’s columnist links, half of the so called Conservative ones are outright Obama supporters, or at least a soild handful are.


82 posted on 10/26/2008 8:39:33 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Jim Noble

Doesn’t mean that a new Political Party can’t work.
What do you suggest???????


83 posted on 10/26/2008 8:40:15 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: bushinohio

You keep believing that lie you’re telling yourself.


84 posted on 10/26/2008 8:40:58 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Jim Noble
If 30% is a small number to you I'm sorry. How come the Democrats work like hell to keep the black vote, which is roughly 10%. 30% is a huge block and there is no way that 70% of the electorate is rebelling against socons. Abortion is about a 50/50 issue and gay marriage is about 60-70% against, so don't be putting to much blame on the socons.
85 posted on 10/26/2008 8:41:09 AM PDT by bushinohio
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To: RedMonqey
The problem is that serious damage will be done that will take much political agony to reverse. We think of RR’s presidency as an era of triumph, but his first years in the White House were spent undoing the economic damage that Carter inflicted on the US.
One issue above all must be contested: national health insurance. If this goes through, the chance of getting rid of it is all but nil. This plan will bankrupt this country, no matter what anyone says.
86 posted on 10/26/2008 8:44:45 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: TheNewPundit

Let’s pick a state and buy it. Then enforce home rule and reject all mandates.


87 posted on 10/26/2008 8:46:46 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: marajade

I’m telling myself a lie, huh? So John McCain doesn’t bear any responsibility? As many have said, this is only close because of Sarah Palin.


88 posted on 10/26/2008 8:48:30 AM PDT by bushinohio
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To: bushinohio

Part of the problem, to be blunt, is Conservatism has gotten soft and flabby under GWB, people may throw rotten tomatoes at President Bush at the moment, but on pretty much every core social issue, President Bush has done a fine job.

Banning partial birth abortions, no firearms bans, lower taxes, more trade (cough..cough...cough..on that one) and no onerous mandates imposed on small businesses, no environmental over reaches.

We’ve forgotten what it is like to be under the boot of Government, this bickering plays right into the Dhimmicrats hands with an election 8 days away.


89 posted on 10/26/2008 8:49:14 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: bushinohio; Jim Noble

“Abortion is about a 50/50 issue ...”

Maybe when querying only the male species. I’d venture to say that a majority of Republican women want the right to choose. And more women then men vote.

And only the moral absolutists like yourself vote only one issue candidates.

Maybe if you all had gotten behind McCain early on like the rest of did instead of trashing him he might have won.


90 posted on 10/26/2008 8:49:28 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: bushinohio

You are. You’re right this is only close because of Sarah Palin. Because she’s a woman and only that.

You all were busy being critical of her because she was.


91 posted on 10/26/2008 8:51:06 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

This is the sort of drivel which has driven the McCain campaign. We must fear/ignore the conservative base, for the crass racism and homophobia at its core will drive away the all important “moderate” swing voter. The left has preached this nonsense for years, hoping against hope that mindless republicans will be taken in. Well, in McCain the Reuters crowd found an all too willing sucker. Rather than run a campaign based upon supporting the strongly held beliefs of the vast majority of the American public—a conservative public, in spite of the contentions of the MSM—McCain ignores and even betrays that public in the name of chasing down the votes of those who either can’t make up their minds, or have no real minds to make up. Had he refused to support the trillion dollar, pork-laden bailout of Wall Street and exposed those truly responsible for the finacial fiasco, the election would be over. McCain would, by being a champion of the wishes of the American people, have a 10+ point lead. Washington had been utterly inundated with mail, e-mail, wires, calls, faxes and the like from angry voters, begging politicians to vote against the theft and distribution of even more tax dollars to the thugs behind the scandal. Rather than stand with the public, McCain fell right in line with his friends and contributors. This neatly timed October surprise was designed to tip the election to Obama. The polls had favored McCain, prior to this Washington contrivance. And our bipartisan nominee reached across the aisle in order to hand the election to an America despising Marxist.


92 posted on 10/26/2008 8:51:28 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: TheNewPundit
If McCain loses, what next for conservatives?

With any luck, a renewed and resolute affirmation, en masse, to never, EVER allow party "moderates" and RINOS to dictate either campaign strategy or candidate ever again.

"They [moderates] have proven they haven't a clue how to win an election. They have proven that they have not a clue that they understand the American electorate. They have proven they have not a clue what it is that inspires people to support their party and go to the poll and support them."

-- Rush Limbaugh, 10/24/2008

93 posted on 10/26/2008 8:52:01 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: TheNewPundit

What if McCain wins? What’s next for conservatives?


94 posted on 10/26/2008 8:52:12 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (two roads diverged and I chose the one less travelled by)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Yep...people like Rudy Guiliani, Bloomberg, Rick Perry, etc., etc. should never be allowed to be in the party. If they act like ‘rats...kick their asses out.


95 posted on 10/26/2008 8:53:56 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: quadrant

“sooner or later, they’ll go too far and make a mistake.”

Clinton went “too far” time and again, and no one would rein him in. When the Republicans in the House tried to bring him to justice, the entire Senate “joined hands pretty much across the aisle” and did the country club colleage good ol’ boy thing and did not do the right thing and remove him from office, because of liberal polls that indicated how “popular” Clinton was. As a result, we cannot be shed of the corrupt Clintons and won’t be until they both are deceased. (You think HE wouldn’t have gotten by with the same things Nixon didn’t? Ya think?) Clinton could have been taped shooting someone and the liberal polls would have spun it to excuse him.

It is missed by the casual observer the REAL danger the corrupt Clinton posed. If he had come under blackmail from a corrupt foreign regime, the results could have been unthinkable - and, who knows? Maybe he did, and we just don’t know it. This communist media would think it was a good thing. - They sure did a good job of almost allowing the ladie’s man, John Edwards, to become VP headed for the Presidency. Does anyone think the media didn’t know what Edwards was?


96 posted on 10/26/2008 8:54:19 AM PDT by Twinkie (Democratic Party = Communist Party)
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To: TheNewPundit
Why, IT'S OFF TO AN EARLY "SUMMER CAMP!"

I have a feeling there will be lots of folks we know in this shot come 1/20/09.

Heck, WE’LL probably be some of them!

Dibs on the bottom bunk (for at least the first -- and probably the ONLY --night I'll spend there)!!

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97 posted on 10/26/2008 8:54:51 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Rush is out of touch.


98 posted on 10/26/2008 8:55:28 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: bushinohio

Once again the left wing media paints this picture exactly wrong. They WANT the ones in office to be “afraid” of real conservatives so they’ll be voted out in two years. And if the republicans in office fall for it they deserve to lose to liberals.


99 posted on 10/26/2008 8:56:00 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: fortunate sun
"The most obvious result regardless of who wins will be a centrist party composed of PUMA Democrats and RINOs"

Yup, something like an American version of the current Conservative party in the UK... (a conserative) friend there recently noted that Obama (in so far as his likely politics are known) would be comfortable fit there as a “moderate” Tory.

100 posted on 10/26/2008 8:57:55 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (True, the ship is sinking... but the music is being played with such feeling!)
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