Ummmm...check this out.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/01/philip-j-berg-nutbar-supreme.html
Government of the people, by the people, for the people, is beginning to perish from the earth.
Judge was afraid of inciting a riot.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE ASKING FOR OUR VOTES, MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS TO RUN. IT’S IS FUNDAMENTAL TO AN HONOST ELECTION, THE RULE OF LAW, AND A JUST DEMOCRACY.
If ANY citizen does not have standing then who does??? What does??? We are governed by the President so we ALL have standing. Basically this judge just said that we must take whatever President we get and shut up. What’s next, no elections?? Dictators? Military Coup d’état to establish who is President? If none of us has standing in our courts then none of us has a say.
Bravo Sierra ping.
I am putting out a plea. Can two constituitanal lawyers please, please post plain, commonsense arguments to both sides of this issue. I would appreciate seeing it as a separate post, and in a format that could be presented to local newspapers. A brief history would also be helpful.
This seems to be a huge issue, but only because Obama refuses to release his birth certificate.
As a matter of course, all parties should submit their birth certificates - including Sarah Palin and Joe Biden... John McCain has already presented his.
I am not super good on a computer, but I would cut an paste both sides of this argument and submit them to my local newspaper.
Perhaps we can eliminate all the messy court cases, congress, etc. and just submit a thoughtful contrast of the facts to every local paper in the country and let the voters decide. Many local papers will post the two sides of a debate - I would love to see this.
Sorry if this has already been suggested or done.
Berg doesn’t need my money. He’s not exactly living hand to mouth.
Anyway...the Judge’s opinion is somewhat different than what the MSM described (Shocking!). The Judge did not say that the allegations were frivolous, he said that the arguments relying on statutory law that supposedly distinguished Berg from Holloman (the McCain case) were frivolous. That’s a big difference.
The lack of standing is expected. The fact of the opinion and the reiteration of the allegations is sufficient to sow further doubts about Obama’s claims to be a natural born citizen.
As for how one would challenge a candidate’s qualifications, I think you can’t do it as a mandamus action or injunction, as Berg did. That does require particular interest (injury in fact) and not just the generalized interest that all Americans would share. I don’t agree with the Court that only congress can create standing here—arguably, this is a self-executing clause in the Constitution. Possibly, a declaratory action on behalf of all citizens (e.g., pater patria) could be brought, but that would probably have to be brought by the AG or Solicitor General. I’d look into it more after the election—it’s certainly too late to do anything about it now.
The bottom line is that even if Obama were openly admitting that he did not have the qualifications, it isn’t clear that anyone has the ability to stop him. Contrary to what you might think, that’s true of quite a lot of constitutional issues.
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
The President today nominated Berle M. Schiller and R. Barclay
Surrick to the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.
Big f’in surprise.
>>>As it were, much of Berg’s basis for injury-in-fact could be considered threatened injury–he felt that the country was at risk for “voter disenfranchisement” and that America was certainly headed for a “constitutional crisis”—and, while threatened injury can certainly be injury enough to satisfy the injury-in-fact element, such satisfaction depends upon the threat being perceived by the judge as being not too creative, speculative or remote. <<<
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2114975/posts
Red Dawn
Berg needs to give us a list of what we can do. We are here to help; but we need guidence.
LAck Standing!How can a citizen of the United States lack standing to prevent a wrong being done against the Constitution of the United States.
Is this Jugdge saying we don’t have to Obey the laws as well?
Surrick was most likely paid big bucks for this decision.
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