Posted on 10/24/2008 9:26:51 PM PDT by Jim W N
A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers.
The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States. It demands that Obama’s lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen.
Berg's suit and allegations have set off a wave of Internet buzz and rumors, though Obama could easily have put the matter to rest by providing the federal court with the basic documentation proving he is eligible to take the oath of a president. But Obama has apparently decided to deny the court and the public that documentation.
The Constitution provides that any U.S. citizen is eligible to become president if the person is 35 years of age or older and is a natural-born citizen; that is, born in the territorial United States.
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How can she say this is a states' issue? The Feds have unconstitutionally usurped states' and individual rights on a lot of things, but this isn't one of them. This is clearly a U.S. Constitutional issue and should be pursued in federal/Supreme Court until the matter is settled. If Obama is found to not be a natural-born American citizen, then by Constitutional Law, he is disqualified to be President of the United States.
What’s the “Standing” issue?
It must be asked; Will President McCain pardon Obama if he has actually committed this fraud?
What can we do to counter this strategy?
Pinging to the article.
Bonus links:
Hussein, Hussein, Hussein:
http://obamaisagiantasshelmet.blogspot.com/2008/10/hussein-hussein-hussein-obama-hussein.html
Thanks to Brown Deer for this one; someone tried it with 0bama and his parents:
Keep doing what we're doing and have faith that 50.00001% of those motivated to vote are also motivated to think. Hell, if he's forced to go 'checkers', it'd all be over. "The notion that a citizen of Papua New Guinea can't be president..." To see that would be the crowning moment of my life. No matter how obtuse an electorate is, no spin ever devised would make them buy that. I don't think.
Do they keep paper birth records in HELL??
The thing I don’t understand...if none of this is true..just produce the freakin’ documents.
How in the heck is this happening??????
That is the sterategy I would use. If Obama is not eligible and 'wins' the election, McCain becomes President.
“Maybe this all started as a nuisance lawsuit by a disgruntled Democrat Hillary supporter. But, if all he has to do to make it go away is release his birth certificate, what is Obama’s problem? Is there not a birth cert. or does it say his middle name is Mohammed and Hussein both, or some other embarassing information?”
I’m glad I’m not the only one puzzled here. McCain produced his birth certificate - why doesn’t Obama just do the same?
Although I guess I’m showing my ignorance here - I thought birth certificates were publicly available documents.
WHERE?????
Half-brother: George Hussein Onyango Obama
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/george-hussein.html
Maybe it’s Barack Hussein Onyango Obama?
Waitasec; I’ll look for it.
No matter how obtuse an electorate is, no spin ever devised would make them buy that. I don’t think.
***I think you’re about to learn a lesson in how obtuse the electorate can be. There’s a famous expression: No one ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American population.
Maybe his name was originally Barry Dunham. Maybe someone other than Barack Hussein Obama is listed as the father. Maybe no father is listed at all.
Here ya go.
Begin at #102 and scroll through the pix all the way to #108.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2104286/posts?page=102#102
I'm sorry, but what you're saying to me (as a non-lawyer-type) is that the Constitution is irrelevant here.
That it doesn't matter what the Constitution says as per requirements to be President, that it's somehow up to the States to enforce the Constitutional provisions.
And what's with this "federally mandated" thing about providing a BC? The Constitution doesn't say you need a BC. Did a court rule that B.O. has to provide it? What are the procedures? If the Constitution says you must be a natural born citizen, how do candidates prove it? How did all the previous Presidents handle it?
If O is proven not eligible BEFORE 11/4, could the DNC replace him with Hillary on the ballot? If this could be the case, could this be why McCain camp and/or the RNC is not pressing this issue?
I think this is the summary.
Before election:
•DNC decides, method not specified
•RNC fills vacancy, reconvene convention or RNC state representitves vote, simple majority wins
Just before the election:
•Congress may pass special legislation to move back election day to give more time for the party to select a new candidate and regroup
11/4 Election
After election, but before Electoral College
•No federal law. Electors open to vote for VP, third party, or convention runner up. State laws may affect elector's abilities to select.
12/15 Electoral College
After Electoral College, before Congress counts the votes
•Congress counts Electoral College votes and declares winner. Winner's VP gets it
1/6 Congressional Vote Count
After Congressional count but before inauguration;
•Per 20th Amendment, VP gets it, but only applies after candidate becomes 'President-Elect" That is certainly after Congressional count.
1/20 Inauguration
•VP gets it
The matter is filed, the request for admissions were served timely and as i understand it, no motion to dismiss or for summary judgment by Defendants has been filed raising the standing issue. Therefore, discovery rules still apply and the request for admissions must be deemed admitted if not responded to within the requisite 30 days. As for the standing issue, i would think that any U.S. citizen would or could be deemed to have been harmed by the election of a fraud who would gladly throw us into a constitutional crisis not to mention the chasm of chaos.
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