Letter: It's time to seek third way

The News Herald, Panama City, Florida ^ | 2008-10-21 | Edward D. Armbruster

[Impy]

“Bums, parasites, and goofballs may now outnumber normal, traditional American families. “

Doubtful.

[Impy]

Gross

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Aggressive voter education, Republican candidates must take it to the cities hard.

Wendell Wilkie was a rat-turned-RINO-turned-indy liberal but he had the right idea, he went to places to campaign where they threw rotten vegetables at him. Got to start somewhere, ignoring urban voters is what we’ve been doing, Republicans don’t even put up candidates. They need serious prodding. Form a real opposition, that means no liberal rinos. And we must be LOUD and visible.

City council level is a good place to start. We have 1 GOP alderman in Chicago (and 1 rat turned GOP, back to rat). GOP statewide winners in the recent past have carried a few wards. At least 4 ought to be GOP NOW. 2 wards on the lakefront and 2 in the white northwest area.

Even modest gains would make a big difference.

But party leader will continue to focus on the low-hanging “swing voter” fruit while the rats claim to be conservative and fool GOP voters. That’s another thing, educate conservatives voters, your southern rat congressman is not a conservative, he’s for Obama and Pelosi. “Democrat” should mean “poison” in Areas like Mississippi CD-1.

[Impy]

Point of fact, if conservatives can’t retake the GOP they can’t win with a third party, just split the vote and allow the rats to sweep everything.

[Tennessee Nana]

I saw FRed at the Commonwealth Dinner in Richmond, VA in June, 2007, and he was great then...

He still hadnt announced though...

I believe if he had announced at that point, and continued to give as good a speech as he did that night, he might well have been a shoo-in...

I voted for Duncan hunter in the primary, but I was preparing to vote for FRed in Nov...

[Tennessee Nana]

Mitt was done in by the Evangelical and Huck
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No, Romney was done in by his own liberal politics..

[GOPJ]

This is a letter to the editor and should be identified as such. So many letters to the editor are fakes written by dems to demoralize Republicans - and yes, I’ve had friends who wrote those letters for the Democrats.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

fmj, I agree with you about Thompson and the media. Thompson was ignored and given little exposure after he joined the campaign trail. The media immediately went after him and his wife without showing either of them. The Left does not want a strong conservative running and for obvious reasons. A clear choice between liberal and conservative almost always elects the conservative.

However, I disagree with both of you about Rush. Saying he is “just an entertainer” is straight out of the DNC PLaybook.

Swanky, you obviously don’t listen to Rush either. He has repeatedly said and proved the he is a conservative, not a Republican, and he does not even like McCain. He says we have to back McCain simply to keep Obama out.

On Thompson, Rush did him no harm. He just kept waiting for Thompson to give him something to talk about but the media kept Thompson in the dark and offered their own talking points of “He is tired and lazy, no fire, he has a trophy wife, he is just an actor, etc, etc.”

Just as the Left gave us McCain with crossover votes in Iowa and New Hampshire and lots of media support they denied us Thompson or Hunter by ignoring them, giving tehm almost zero exposure.

[SwankyC]

Oooh sooory, I listen to him every day and he does absolutely have conservative stances, but he will typically, "come home to momma". Case in point:

He says we have to back McCain simply to keep Obama out.

Sorry, to me that comes right back to shill.

[ejonesie22]

It will take a complete failure of the system to turn it around. Look at what is going on, the masses were given access to the system in the search for more and more votes by greedy politicos on both sides.

The takers, including those who “produce” through meager efforts just to make enough money to survive have always out numbered the true self disciplined producers and leaders. Sadly in an effort to look “enlightened” or because they are to busy actually producing to take notice, the true producers allow those who seek to live off of them just enough access to the government to install those who support the takers and toss money from the treasury. these “leaders” become more and more corrupt until the system fails.

Lather, rinse, repeat...

We are close to the repeat stage I fear.

Or not...

Tough call to wish for failure in an effort to see a fresh start. I just hope in this accelerated age the change will take less than a century or so.

[nmh]

No, Romney was done in by his own liberal politics..

LOL!

He was the most conservative of those running at the time.

I haven't drunk the Evangelical Kool-aide. I am thorough on my research too. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat AGAIN. IDeally I would have liked to see him as out nominee - since Fred bailed out earlier ... and Sarah for the gender role. That is the role she is filling.

[rdb3]

Rush helped sandbag our best general election candidate, Fred Thompson.

Nonsense. Thompson, who I liked personally, ran as though he didn't want the nomination.

[Moby Grape]

“Nonsense. Thompson, who I liked personally, ran as though he didn’t want the nomination.”

Amen to that.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

He says we have to back McCain simply to keep Obama out.

Sorry, to me that comes right back to shill.

Only if you support Obama. If you don't support Obama then your thinking is so nuanced as to be meaningless.

[SwankyC]

Go peddle your bullshit somewhere else moron.

[E. Cartman]

It was time to seek a third way twenty years ago when the GOP old boys first foisted Poppy Bush onto the conservative revolution.

[rdb3]

Go peddle your bullshit somewhere else moron.

Touchy I see.

NO profanity, NO personal attacks...

[1035rep]

The real disgust is for the Democrat controlled congress.

Democrat congress at 9% approval rating. Lowest approval rating in history.

[dr_who]

You use those third parties to regain control of your own party. Like the leftists used the Green Party to retake the Democratic Party.

Interesting assertion. How precisely did Democrats who were presumably cooling their heels in the Green Party retake the Democrat party? No one here will argue that the left isn't largely in control of the Democrat party right now, but how does the Green party have more to do with the current situation than reaction to failures like Gore and Kerry and leadership from the likes of ACORN and Dean? Did the Greens keep HRC from getting the nomination? Was the reason Kerry lost because he wasn't far enough to the left? A more reasonable explanation to me is that the Gore/Clinton wing botched it while very leftmost wing of the Democrat party was the best organized and in the right place at the right time. As for Republicans, no offense, but if you think the RINO's or candidates like McCain care in the slightest about votes siphoned away by the Constitution Party and Libertarian Party, I think you're nuts. I wish they did.

I think the three real reasons for conservative successes over the past 20 years are: 1) Ronald Reagan, 2) Rush Limbaugh, and 3) Newt Gingrich. Buckley and some other figures also play prominently, but third parties just don't. If we could change the current system so that they did, it would be for the better. But control of either major party belongs to the people who are left after unfavorable election cycles. Let's hope the RINOs take all the arrows. We won't have any use for Quislings next year.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

We won't have any use for Quislings next year.

One good thing about this election is that the worst sell-outs are outing themselves, whether they are the moderates who gave us McCain in the first place, or the idiots we have often seen on FR, some on this thread, who have displayed a total lack of political judgement.

[Arkinsaw]

No one here will argue that the left isn't largely in control of the Democrat party right now, but how does the Green party have more to do with the current situation than reaction to failures like Gore and Kerry and leadership from the likes of ACORN and Dean?

As you said, the Leftists control the Democratic Party. They forced the Democrats to pay more attention to them by being the difference in the Bush/Gore election. Before long they no longer had to settle for Nader and pushed Clintonites aside for the Deanies. They now control their party completely and have their nominee. They spoiled Gore and made their party listen to them.

I think the three real reasons for conservative successes over the past 20 years are: 1) Ronald Reagan, 2) Rush Limbaugh, and 3) Newt Gingrich. Buckley and some other figures also play prominently, but third parties just don't.

The remnant of the conservative movement left in the US is here because of Reagan. We tried to reassert under Gingrich's leadership but he was demonized and his own party tossed him to the wolves. Since then Republicans have put conservatives into the corner and we have been forced to either pretend someone is a conservative who is not, or settle for "the lesser evil".

Third parties haven't figured in before for Republicans....but a few more "moderate" nominees who fail are likely to change that. I am getting on board early....Republicans can earn my vote back by returning to Reaganism and nominating people not afraid to say his name.