15th from bottom.
Lic #32957
Search list of all licensed plumbers in Lucas County, Ohio
http://elicense1-roster.com.ohio.gov/default.asp
Posted on 10/16/2008 8:25:32 PM PDT by DaveTesla
[posted by ArrMatey]
By now I hope you read my earlier post below. Link is here. Across the blogosphere, we have news that Joe the Plumber, single father, American working guy, aspiring business owner, is about to be shut down and put out of work, to the great glee of Obama supporters.
I am angry. I know I ought not blog angry. I’m going to count to a hundred, listen to some Men without Hats, and finish writing this in a few….
I’m back. It’s amazing what a few minutes listening to Pop Goes the World can do for you. Here are the links: 1. HotAir reports that “Toledo Moves to Shut Down Joe the Plumber”. 2. NBC affiliate reports that even Joe’s boss is not licensed: “If the boss of a company has valid documentation employees are covered. However, NBC-24 learned neither Joe, nor his boss Al Newell, are authorized to do work in Lucas County.” 3. MSNBC repeats what I’ll shortly show you is incorrect, that boss Newell is not licensed: “And the county Wurzelbacher and Newell live in, Lucas County, requires plumbers to have licenses, but neither is licensed there, said Cheryl Schimming of Lucas County Building Regulations, which handles plumber licenses in parts of the county outside Toledo.”
And so on. Now let me tell you that many news outlets are getting the story right, that Joe’s boss, Mr. Newell (in business since 1974, God bless you sir, I’m sure you could never have imagined all this happening to you in America), is in fact licensed in Lucas County. How do I know? Because the State of Ohio’s computers told me so, and they would tell the media the same if they looked…like I did.
Mr. Newell is licensed. He is licensed in Lucas County. His license number starts with the digits 329 and then has two more digits. I don’t see any need to post more identifying information about innocent people. Search here, plug in the right paramaters, and you can download the list of all licensed plumbers in Lucas County, Ohio. It is not difficult, though you have to provide information about yourself as the requester of the information.
So I got this list of licensees.
Mr. Newell is on that list. And if I read the rules of apprenticeship correctly (I am not an Ohio attorney, and yes I could be reading it wrong), the reported date of November 2003 as the date of filing of Joe’s apprenticeship papers seems to be just fine. According to this,
“The Ohio Construction Industry Licensing Board (O.C.I.L.B.), Department of Commerce, Division of Industrial Compliance, issues state commercial licenses to the following contractors: electrical, HVAC, hydronics, plumbing, and refrigeration. To receive a state license, an applicant must meet the following requirements: 1) be at least 18 years of age; 2) be a United States citizen or a legal alien-must provide proof of being a legal alien; 3) either have been a tradesperson in the type of licensed trade for which the application is filed for not less than five years immediately prior to the date the application is filed, currently be a registered engineer in this state with three years of business experience in the construction industry in the trade for which the engineer is applying to take the examination, or have other experience acceptable to the appropriate section of the board; 4) not have been convicted of or plead guilty to a misdemeanor involving moral turpitude or of any felony; 5) pass the examination in the trade; 6) carry minimum $500,000 contractor liability coverage; 7) pay the applicable fees”
So here’s the point. Many news outlets have gotten it correct, but some have not and that needs to be corrected. Mr. Newell is licensed, and Joe the Plumber is just short of his five years before he can apply for licensure, but as supervised by Newell, he’s o.k.. You can look at screen captures of the entire list of Lucas County licensed plumbers here (part 1) and here (part 2). And as we read the news stories about local officials mobilizing to put Joe out of work, (quote: “A staff person with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection told On Call this afternoon that her division will contact Wurzelbacher to notify him that he can’t work without a license. “We’re trying to track him down,” she said”), consider the following:
Not one of the officers of Local 50 of the union shop of plumbers is on the list of licensees. Disclaimer: I don’t care that none of them are on the list, and I know that not necessarily every one of the union officers are plumbers at all, as they also represent other trades. That said, their spokesman is on record slamming Joe about licensure.
Alan W. Newell's license.
15th from bottom.
Lic #32957
Search list of all licensed plumbers in Lucas County, Ohio
http://elicense1-roster.com.ohio.gov/default.asp
Yeah...but I really feel bad that “Joe” is having to endure this crap. He’s been a real trooper, so far. I hope he can hang in there and not let this get to him.
I feel bad, too. If people cannot be brought to see the implications of this, we are in deep trouble. This cannot be allowed to happen without consequences to the perpetrators. But I fear the people are lulled into complacency, “It can’t happen here.”
He's going to be on Huckabe's show Sat nite FOX - Hopefully, they'll bring out the lies they're telling about Joe and his boss - who, I think, should sue every outlet that lied about him not being licensed. That's not only personal defamation but can hurt his business. These are not public figures. They can't be lied about freely.
I hope they both sue - then Newell can retire and Joe will have the money to buy the business
If you have only one conservative friend who can see what's at stake - he/she is worth a room full of obamites...
and make no mistake: If the worst happens, those are the ones that will pull on the Jack Boots and the Brown Shirts - become Block Wardens and turn you in to be shipped off for 're-education.'
Better to steer clear of them...even if only for your equilibrium.
This is all about the “I” word. Intimidation.
If Joe and his boss handle this right, they will really be rich. They should sue for defamation and they would win. Obama may decide to tax them double for it though...
They should also sue over that stinky rumor that Joe is related to Charles Keating's son-in-law (they share the same last name) if he's not.
I probably will. We have gotten through seven years of many political controversies and even survived John effinkerry without any significant turmoil. But bambi is different, he really is another Mussollini...ugh barf vomit hurl.
The shit flows?
A. Uphill,
B. Downhill
C. Spontaneously
D. Shit is immovable
The location of the Hot knob is?
A. On the Right
B. On the Left
C. There is no standard
D. It depends which hemisphere you're in
Plumbers should?
A. Never wear a belt
B. Wear low rise jeans
C. Bend over frequently
D. All of the above
.
God forbid someone should practice plumbing without governmental oversight!
Do I now have to rip out all of the plumbing I've fixed without a license?
Thank you, Jesus!
But he doesn't come across as repulsive to those who want to believe the lie. He comes across as an educated caring individual. If he was repulsive no one would vote for him.
Of course, the dems are throwing up a lot of chaff to obscure Joe’s words. That is what dems must do when they can’t (1) tell anyone what they really stand for or (2) apply logic to their various positions.
The McCain camp needs to use Joe the Plumber in a waterfall of ads. Joe has brought a moment of clarity to the difference between the Marxist Onada and McCain at precisely the right moment. I hope, despite the negative attention he’s getting from the MSM, Joe stays in the game. And I hope McCain is smart enough to understand the gifts he has been given. They are Gov. Palin and Joe the Plumber.
Many more pics at the second link below!
SARAH PALIN STLL DRAWING HUGE CROWDS EVERYWHERE SHE GOES
Sarah and Joe...one two knockout punches!
That is a talking point now. Howard Wolfson was on FOX saying his name wasn’t really Joe too. It’s just insanity!
AMEN!
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