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Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes
Israel E-news ^ | 10/12/08 | Tamar Yonah

Posted on 10/12/2008 6:05:35 PM PDT by pissant

Someone is lying. According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg (see video below) who is, surprisingly, a life long democrat himself. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, and he has an impressive background in his activities as a democrat, but his support for the party seemingly stops when it comes to his trust in Barack Hussein Obama.

Many U.S. voters are suspicious of the Democratic candidate's past, and Berg filed a lawsuit to force Barack Hussein Obama to produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he can run for the office of President of the United States. However, he is being fought. The DNC On Sept. 24 filed a motion to dismiss the Berg action. Why? What is there to hide? Why not produce the original birth certificate and be done with all the suspicions against Barack Hussein Obama?

A few months back, a birth certificate WAS posted on the internet which shows that Obama was born in Hawaii. Yet some say this birth certificate is a forgery and again, his grandmother st

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichrist; birthcertificate; certifigate; itstheeconomystupid; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamafamily; truthermadness
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To: CharlotteVRWC

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281 posted on 10/12/2008 11:15:24 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: meyer

Small correction... that was his “white racist grandmother” that Obama threw under the bus. The black Kenyan grandmother is still alive.


282 posted on 10/12/2008 11:17:45 PM PDT by Cincinna (THERE IS STILL TIME!. CHANGE IS COMING! MCCAIN * PALIN '08)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

ZOMG

When is this going to break Nationally?


283 posted on 10/12/2008 11:18:41 PM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: Red Steel

Considering the sister is younger, and wouldn’t have been there, and Obama was an infant, he might not know himself.


284 posted on 10/12/2008 11:21:25 PM PDT by Cincinna (THERE IS STILL TIME!. CHANGE IS COMING! MCCAIN * PALIN '08)
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To: Brown Deer

Its not filled out.


285 posted on 10/12/2008 11:33:07 PM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: Danae
Its not filled out.

Fill it out for him. ;)
286 posted on 10/12/2008 11:35:59 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: keats5

Not so sure about that. Are you and your spouse’s names on their birth certificates? Judge’s usually amend birth certificates by putting in the adoptive parents names.

Regardless of whether your kids went through naturalization (the immigration code now automatically bestow citizenship upon US adoption), the courts strictly construe adoptive children to be legally identical to biological kids.

If a biological child of yours could qualify, then I am absolutely certain that the federal courts would rule that an adoptive kid is, in fact, a natural born citizen because his parents are both US citizens.


287 posted on 10/12/2008 11:42:29 PM PDT by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: Sybeck1

Actually, even if he was born in Kenya, he’s still a US citizen. The red herring is, everyone is looking at the law which states that the mother must have been a citizen for at least 5 years after her 16th birthday (impossible since she was only 18)— but that is for American WIVES of foreign husbands. Barack Obama Sr. was already married in Kenya when he met Barry’s mom. Since he was neither widowed nor divorce and because bigamy is illegal in the United States, any marriage ceremony between the senator’s parents was invalid.

The law at that time was the child of an UNMARRIED American mother was automatically a natural born citizen if mom was a US citizen who’d lived on American soil for at least one year. So regardless of where Senator Obama was born, since he’s certainly a bastard, he’s certainly eligible for the presidency.

8 USC 1409 (c) Notwithstanding the provision of subsection (a) of this section, a person born, after December 23, 1952, outside the United States and out of wedlock shall be held to have acquired at birth the nationality status of his mother, if the mother had the nationality of the United States at the time of such person’s birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.


288 posted on 10/12/2008 11:49:58 PM PDT by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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289 posted on 10/12/2008 11:57:01 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Maximum Leader

That does not make it legal to forge a Hawai’i COLB. I don’t think it will be possible for Obama to run for President while being incarcerated for Forgery.


290 posted on 10/12/2008 11:57:14 PM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: Polarik; pissant; Fred Nerks; LucyT
Through all this brouhaha we've visited airports, hospitals, mud huts and grass shacks and proof positive eludes us.

I was talking to my brother today and the subject came up briefly. While there is a lot of speculation over Obama's birth records and even some that indicates he isn't a natural born citizen of the US, the argument is circular. But what is important is that no credible proof of birth as a US citizen has ever been offered up by Obama himself. It's just a small thing that he's deliberately avoided.

ἡ εἰς ἄτοπον ἀπαγωγή

We are fast approaching a conclusion from a 'Reductio ad absurdum' argument. There is no valid birth certificate.
291 posted on 10/13/2008 12:00:55 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: BIGLOOK

“...There is no valid birth certificate.”

Either that, or his ‘valid’ certificate contains information that would totally ruin his position.


292 posted on 10/13/2008 12:12:17 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: AHerald
Surely you agree that if the Hawaii birth announcement is legit that means that this story about Obama being born in Kenya must be false, yes?

Maybe, maybe not. The way I understood the birth announcement, it announced the birth of a child to Mr. and Mr. Obama, with no mention of where the child was born. So, all it really implied was that a child had been born to parents with ties to Hawaii, which we already knew.

For the record, I don't believe there's any evidence that Obama was born outside the U. S. But it seems fairly clear that there's something about his birth certificate that he'd like to keep secret.
293 posted on 10/13/2008 12:18:51 AM PDT by Mariebl
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To: Maximum Leader
If a biological child of yours could qualify, then I am absolutely certain that the federal courts would rule that an adoptive kid is, in fact, a natural born citizen because his parents are both US citizens.

Interesting. I'm absolutely that it's not true. Adoption takes place after birth. Whether you're natural-born or not, I believe, is decided at birth.
294 posted on 10/13/2008 12:28:07 AM PDT by Mariebl
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To: Brown Deer

They must have used invisible ink, since the form I’m looking at is lacking data.

Why is it recorded in so many places that ‘his sister Maya says he was born in the Honoluolu hospital.’ Maya is born 9 years later in Jakarta and that renders her testimony useless. So why bother to print further nonsense in an attempt to substantiate a falsehood.


295 posted on 10/13/2008 12:28:43 AM PDT by Gemsbok (Pledge to fight voter FRAUD (Acorn)(Obama) be a poll worker, watcher, observer:Get in their face!!!)
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To: Maximum Leader
Barack Obama Sr. was already married in Kenya when he met Barry’s mom

To further confuse the issue, so to speak, some people have claimed that he might not have been legally married in Kenya, which would make his marriage to Stanley Dunham legal. (Assuming that they actually were married, of course.)

The theory is that the first marriage in Kenya may have been a 'jump over the broom' type of thing, rather than a certified British marriage with marriage license.
296 posted on 10/13/2008 12:30:53 AM PDT by Mariebl
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To: calex59
when you only have one parent who is a US citizen then that parent must meet a time criteria, living in the US for so many years after a certain age, I believe it is 14 or 16 years of age, if they do not meet that criteria and the child is born outside of the US they are not natural born US citizens,or any type of US citizen, period. Obama's mother didn't meet that criteria

What are you talking about? I thought Obama's mother was born in the U.S. and lived here until he was born. No?

297 posted on 10/13/2008 12:44:04 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Mariebl
The way I understood the birth announcement, it announced the birth of a child to Mr. and Mr. Obama, with no mention of where the child was born. So, all it really implied was that a child had been born to parents with ties to Hawaii, which we already knew.

You're right, of course. In subsequent posts I noted the same possibility. So my use of the word "must" overstates the case for concluding the birth notice alone proves Obama had to have been born in Hawaii. It is conceivable that a notice for a child born in another country could have been placed. Still, a contemporaneous birth notice combined with a commonsense understanding of public birth notices offers a pretty compelling bit of evidence.

For the record, I don't believe there's any evidence that Obama was born outside the U. S. But it seems fairly clear that there's something about his birth certificate that he'd like to keep secret.

Same here. Commonsense would seem to say release the darn original and avoid any hassle.

298 posted on 10/13/2008 1:01:47 AM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: dusttoyou

I searched everywhere I could think of and I could find no such requirement.


299 posted on 10/13/2008 4:16:00 AM PDT by nobama08
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To: penowa

.....I wouldn’t credit his ignorance as you have.....You missed my point. If the case goes to court, Obama can’t testify as to the location of his birth. Although he was present, he doesn’t know where it happened. His knowledge is totally hearsay


300 posted on 10/13/2008 4:18:57 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Off With her head.....)
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