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Did Romney’s remarks hint at a Romney-Palin showdown in 2012?
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Posted on 10/07/2008 6:14:40 PM PDT by mathwhizz

Mitt Romney's remarks last week that John McCain's presidential campaign should have provided more media access to vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin sent waves through the political world because it was one of the first times the former governor had criticized the GOP nominee's strategy.

"Holding Sarah Palin to just three interviews and microscopically focusing on each interview I think has been a mistake," Romney said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." "I think they'd be a lot wiser to let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin. Let her talk to the media, let her talk to people."

While Romney may have been reflecting the mainstream conventional wisdom going into last week's vice presidential debate, some say Romney's remarks are a glimpse ahead to a possible 2012 match-up between Romney and Palin, if McCain loses this year's race for the White House.

"The more interviews for Sara Palin, the less likely she will be the heir apparent to the Republican Presidential nomination next time," said Mike Shea, a veteran Boston Democratic strategist. "Whatever happens, McCain probably will not be the Republican nominee next time, and Romney will begin campaigning for that post the day after the election."

Scott Ferson, another Boston Democratic strategist, said Romney's remarks indicated a break from McCain, who appears to be slipping in recent polls.

"More significantly, [the remarks are] a show of independence that he has been cautious not to display when it looked like McCain's chances were strong," Ferson said. "It appears to be another set up for the party faithful, should McCain lose, to say they would have been better off with Romney."

The Romney camp fully dismissed any notion that the former governor was being overly critical of McCain or looking ahead to 2012.

"For the record, that's absolutely ridiculous," Eric Fehrnstrom, a spokesman for Romney, said, "a conspiracy theory that would make Oliver Stone blush."


"Gov. Romney has been working hard across the country to elect John McCain and Sarah Palin because he believes our nation will be better off with them in the White House," Fehrnstrom added.

Others suggested that Romney was simply reflecting the mainstream conventional wisdom in Republican circles last week.

"I think Romney is expressing his true sentiments, not trying to gain some advantage down the line by advising additional media exposure for Palin that could backfire," Rob Gray, a Boston GOP strategist, said. "Romney's view is in line with most Republican operatives I've spoken to, thus pretty mainstream."

Still, the local political punditry couldn't help but think of how a race between Romney and Palin would play out.

"It would be a battle," said Peter Blute, the former Republican congressman from Worcester. "Palin certainly has the conservative base, and she probably would maintain that."

That conservative branch of the party, Blute noted, gave Romney trouble this year because many evangelicals were unwilling to accept Romney's Mormonism. Nevertheless, Blute said Romney set himself up well.

"I think he's still a viable presidential candidate," he said. "He did a very good job in his first go around nationally."

And, Blute said, he isn't sure Palin is looking to run for president.

"I don't think she is necessarily as ambitious as Romney is," he said. "So she may not adhere herself to national politics...that may not be her thing."

At least one person said that Romney may be well-positioned because Palin's inexperience and lack of policy understanding has already taken hold.

"Palin's weakness in dealing with a range of issues is fundamental," said Paul Watanabe, a political scientist at the University of Massachusetts at Boston. "No tactical adjustments - relatively less or more exposure - can hide her lack of experience and critical knowledge."

That sentiment, plus Romney's significant political experience as a candidate and surrogate, led other to believe the former governor remarks indicate his own strategy looking ahead.

"Any strategy Mitt Romney suggests is for the benefit of Mitt Romney," Doug Hattaway, a Boston Democratic strategist and Al Gore's spokesman during his 2000 presidential campaign, said. "That's the safest bet you can make in politics."

State Rep. Brad Jones, the minority leader of the state House of Representatives, said Romney's political future is, ultimately, tied to the outcome of this election and how well Palin performs. If McCain wins this year and decides not to run for re-election in 2012, Palin will be in place as the frontrunner for the nomination.

"If Sen. McCain wins the presidency and decides not to run for re-election for whatever reason," Jones, a North Reading Republican, said, "the sitting vice president is going to have the resources of incumbency and if things have gone well, she's going to have that much more experience."

But, Jones went on, Romney could fill a vacuum as the frontrunner for 2012 if McCain loses and Palin is viewed as a drag on the ticket.

"If McCain loses and Palin isn't well-received," he said, "it partially elevates Romney because another viable contender is not there. It's going to be pretty hard for Palin to say, ‘I did poorly, we lost, Obama is on the presidency and now I perceive myself as the likely contender four years from now. And my pulpit is basically two more years as the governor of Alaska.' I don't see that."


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To: mathwhizz

Mitt should shut his trap and go away. If he’s bashing the ticket, he’s helping Obama. It’s that simple.


61 posted on 10/08/2008 6:29:44 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ignore the polls. They're meant to shape public opinion, not measure it.)
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To: mathwhizz

Palin is an unstoppable political force going into 2012. And there are other good candidates (feisty) that would make a good running mate.


62 posted on 10/08/2008 6:31:41 AM PDT by Globalist Goon ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: ansel12

1. New posters’ posts are held in abeyance, for whatever reason, probably probation.
2. Nobody is obliged to respond to everybody who posts to him/her. I don’t respond if I find the index of jackassery of a post to be quite high.
3. It is premature to classify mathwizz a troll based on that criterion. He might well be, but it’s too soon to tell.


63 posted on 10/08/2008 6:31:54 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: 9YearLurker; Maneesh

And many residents of MA besides yourself can vouch for the antithesis. It doesn’t have any impact on what I said that that is the case.


64 posted on 10/08/2008 6:41:13 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: mathwhizz

No Mitt. No Rudy. No Huck.

No way.


65 posted on 10/08/2008 6:44:04 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Government that is powerful enough to protect you is only one election away from attacking you.)
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To: mathwhizz
Huh?

I don't see anything in Romney's remarks that hint at such a thing.

Heck, most FReepers have been saying exactly the same as Mitt! Let Sarah be Sarah. Let her talk to the people.

Are we all secretly anlgling for a Romney / Palin "showdown"? How absurd.

66 posted on 10/08/2008 6:47:19 AM PDT by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Maybe I should sue Hattaway for plagarism. Then, of course, anybody with an ounce of sense knows that fact about Slick Willard. The rest just have their heads up, well, I think you know. :-)


67 posted on 10/08/2008 6:57:20 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: TChris
"Are we all secretly angling for a Romney / Palin "showdown"?"

Why not ? The Dems are in a habit of putting up phony liberal lightweight con men, so Slick Willard would be a perfect nominee for their party in 2012. Palin will blow him away.

68 posted on 10/08/2008 6:59:48 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

“3. It is premature to classify mathwizz a troll based on that criterion. He might well be, but it’s too soon to tell.”


That is what I said.


69 posted on 10/08/2008 8:01:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (The old Sarah smile. She is some girl, Sarah Barracuda. Hell, she's a natural-born world-shaker.)
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To: NutCrackerBoy; JohnnyZ

“Romney has played differently to different audiences in different decades. “


No he hasn’t, he didn’t start mimicking the right until he started on this national campaign for President.

Even for this campaign he tried to smear his mother as a pre-Roe vs Wade, pro abortion champion in her 1970 Senate run, and Ronald Reagan as “adamantly pro-choice”.


70 posted on 10/08/2008 8:09:24 AM PDT by ansel12 (The old Sarah smile. She is some girl, Sarah Barracuda. Hell, she's a natural-born world-shaker.)
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To: TAdams8591

“The left is doing to Governer Palin what a small percentage of idiots on the rigt did to Governor Romney,”

That is ridiculous Palin is a conservative and always has been, do you really want to start with the videos, and the record, and the photos, and the signed letters, voter registration, anti-Reagan, left of Ted Kennedy mess etc, etc, before 2006 that was the liberal life of Mitt Romney.

Palin has received a rectal examine unlike anything that we have ever seen and it keeps coming up RIGHT WING, RIGHT WING, RIGHT WING. and also being the most popular Governor in America, she has an earned future as a leader of the conservative movement based on her achievements as a (gasp) life long, grab them by the balls, CONSERVATIVE.


71 posted on 10/08/2008 8:25:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (The old Sarah smile. She is some girl, Sarah Barracuda. Hell, she's a natural-born world-shaker.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

LOL. You are from New Mexico.


72 posted on 10/08/2008 8:30:13 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Gee, I thought I could sneak on here and make a view comments at what was once, the end of the thread, without a reaction from the spoilers, /sigh.... : )


73 posted on 10/08/2008 11:06:42 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Governor Palin won the debate hands down!!! Just beautiful! : ))
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