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Transcript of Vice Presidential Debate, October 2, 2008
Commission on Presidential Debates ^ | 10/02/2008 | Christian4Bush

Posted on 10/02/2008 10:18:35 PM PDT by Christian4Bush

Hi to all,

I did a search but couldn't find another listing.

The transcript is already up, as is the transcript from the first debate between Senators McCain and Obama.

You can also find transcripts of previous debates going all the way back to Reagan/Carter in 1980.

Enjoy!


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1 posted on 10/02/2008 10:18:36 PM PDT by Christian4Bush
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To: Christian4Bush
I felt Sarah was constrained by her advisors and the campaign to be too much a cheerleader tonight and not allowed to just be herself and take the dems to task. Having said that, she certainly held her own with Biden and, much more importantly, she connected with the American people much much better than Biden.

That will be the key from tonight.

Biden bloviated all over the place and will be shown to have made glaring misrepresentations on McCain's record and his own, which this thread is ample example of...and the people need to hear of it.

How irresponsible, how arrogant to throw this type of stuff out there ina national debate. .

But all of that pales in comparison to Sarah's ability, even when cheerleading for McCain, to connect with the American people in her style, in her wording, and in her demeanor.

Common Americans are naturally drawn to her. She speaks to them...speaks for them. All of the MSM attempts to the contrary, that is what she does and she McCain campaign needs to have her constalntly out in front of the people doing just that.


I'M VOTING FOR SARAH...AND SO ARE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE

2 posted on 10/02/2008 10:22:16 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: doug from upland; bray; SE Mom; kristinn; MinuteGal; Bush gal in LA; roses of sharon

Transcript PING


3 posted on 10/02/2008 10:22:16 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Country First*****McCain/Palin 08*********vs. CountryWIDE First [obama and the donks])
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To: Christian4Bush
Best part of the debate......

IFILL: Governor?

PALIN: Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education and I'm glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right? I say, too, with education, America needs to be putting a lot more focus on that and our schools have got to be really ramped up in terms of the funding that they are deserving. Teachers needed to be paid more. I come from a house full of school teachers. My grandma was, my dad who is in the audience today, he's a schoolteacher, had been for many years. My brother, who I think is the best schoolteacher in the year, and here's a shout-out to all those third graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School, you get extra credit for watching the debate.

Education credit in American has been in some sense in some of our states just accepted to be a little bit lax and we have got to increase the standards. No Child Left Behind was implemented. It's not doing the job though. We need flexibility in No Child Left Behind. We need to put more of an emphasis on the profession of teaching. We need to make sure that education in either one of our agendas, I think, absolute top of the line. My kids as public school participants right now, it's near and dear to my heart. I'm very, very concerned about where we're going with education and we have got to ramp it up and put more attention in that arena.
4 posted on 10/02/2008 10:24:36 PM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: kellynla

Ping


5 posted on 10/02/2008 10:30:58 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Country First*****McCain/Palin 08*********vs. CountryWIDE First [obama and the donks])
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To: Christian4Bush

I was recently at my local gas station and asked a guy named Joey Danco (ph). I said Joey, how much did it cost to fill your tank? You know what his answer was? He said I don’t know, Joe. I never have enough money to do it.

What a lie. If Joey Danco can afford to live in O’Biden’s neighborhood he can fill up without a problem. All the homes in Joey O’Biden’s neighborhood are priced in the millions not the thousand’s like most American neighborhoods.


6 posted on 10/02/2008 10:56:32 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: Christian4Bush

I was recently at my local gas station and asked a guy named Joey Danco (ph). I said Joey, how much did it cost to fill your tank? You know what his answer was? He said I don’t know, Joe. I never have enough money to do it.

What a lie. If Joey Danco can afford to live in O’Biden’s neighborhood he can fill up without a problem. All the homes in Joey O’Biden’s neighborhood are priced in the millions not the thousand’s like most American neighborhoods.


7 posted on 10/02/2008 10:57:28 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: Christian4Bush

A couple of good points she made (among others) was how Biden misrepresented (lied) about what General McClellan said about a surge in Afghanistan. In fact he did Not say that no surge was needed. My guess is that being as good a general as he is, General McClellan will see that a surge in Afghanistan can be just as successful as the Iraqi surge has been and bring victory to Afghanistan just as it has brought us victory in Iraq.

Also, how she kept pointing out that there is NO connection between the McCain-Palin ticket and the Bush Administration or the Republican Congress. She won’t let the Dims hang those albatrosses around their necks.


8 posted on 10/02/2008 11:12:36 PM PDT by FFranco
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IFILL: Governor, you said in July that someone would have to explain to you exactly what it is the vice president does every day. You, senator, said, you would not be vice president under any circumstances. Now maybe this was just what was going on at the time. But tell us now, looking forward, what it is you think the vice presidency is worth now.

PALIN: In my comment there, it was a lame attempt at a joke and yours was a lame attempt at a joke, too, I guess, because nobody got it. Of course we know what a vice president does.


9 posted on 10/02/2008 11:52:32 PM PDT by unspun (Tell the truth about Obama to all you know.)
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To: Jeff Head

Good to see you around, Jeff!


10 posted on 10/03/2008 1:06:05 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA YES: Prop 4 - Family notification. NO (Bonds): 1A, 3, 12. Vote McCain/Palin.)
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To: An American!

Apparently Biden talks about going to Home Depot. To borrow from a local Republican on tonight’s news, “Joe Biden’s at Home Depot as much as I’m in the Senate chamber.”

Personally, I’ve only been to the House.


11 posted on 10/03/2008 1:12:59 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA YES: Prop 4 - Family notification. NO (Bonds): 1A, 3, 12. Vote McCain/Palin.)
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To: All

Here are some choice quotes, takes, and Biden rimshots.

[My remarks in brackets]

Palin: “Now, John McCain thankfully has been one representing reform. Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell.”

[Palin held back her punches about who to blame while Biden is character assassin. A Bob Dole moment.]

BIDEN: Well, Gwen, two years ago Barack Obama warned about the sub prime mortgage crisis. John McCain said shortly after that in December he was surprised there was a sub prime mortgage problem. John McCain, while Barack Obama was warning about what we had to do, was literally giving an interview to The Wall Street Journal saying that I’m always for cutting regulations. We let Wall Street run wild. John McCain, and he’s a good man, but John McCain thought the answer is that tried and true Republican response, deregulate, deregulate.

So what you had is you had overwhelming “deregulation.” You had actually the belief that Wall Street could self-regulate itself. And while Barack Obama was talking about reinstating those regulations, John on 20 different occasions in the previous year and a half called for more deregulation. As a matter of fact, John recently wrote an article in a major magazine saying that he wants to do for the health care industry deregulate it and let the free market move like he did for the banking industry.

So deregulation was the promise. And guess what? Those people who say don’t go into debt, they can barely pay to fill up their gas tank. I was recently at my local gas station and asked a guy named Joey Danco (ph). I said Joey, how much did it cost to fill your tank? You know what his answer was? He said I don’t know, Joe. I never have enough money to do it. The middle class needs relief, tax relief. They need it now. They need help now. The focus will change with Barack Obama.

IFILL: Governor, please if you want to respond to what he said about Sen. McCain’s comments about health care?

[She’s being loose with Biden and trying to funnel Palin to the defensive. That question was motivated by hostile, partizan intent. I’m glad Palin didn’t dance to her tune and smacked the BO / B ticket with their hunger for tax increases.]
[Notice Ifill’s followup question to Biden:]

IFILL: Senator? [A complete freebee]

BIDEN: The charge is absolutely not true. Barack Obama did not vote to raise taxes.
he vote she’s referring to, John McCain voted the exact same way. It was a budget procedural vote. John McCain voted the same way. It did not raise taxes. Number two, using the standard that the governor uses, John McCain voted 477 times to raise taxes.

[Look at the double standard in this question]

IFILL: OK, our time is up here. We’ve got to move to the next question. Sen. Biden, we want to talk about taxes, let’s talk about taxes. You proposed raising taxes on people who earn over $250,000 a year. The question for you is, why is that not class warfare and the same question for you, Gov. Palin, is you have proposed a tax employer health benefits which some studies say would actually throw five million more people onto the roles of the uninsured. I want to know why that isn’t taking things out on the poor, starting with you, Sen. Biden.

Biden snippet: No one making less than $250,000 under Barack Obama’s plan will see one single penny of their tax raised whether it’s their capital gains tax, their income tax, investment tax, any tax. And 95 percent of the people in the United States of America making less than $150,000 will get a tax break.

[Palin didn’t even address the partizan question. Here’s a snippet of her response]

Now you said recently that higher taxes or asking for higher taxes or paying higher taxes is patriotic. In the middle class of America which is where Todd and I have been all of our lives, that’s not patriotic. Patriotic is saying, government, you know, you’re not always the solution. In fact, too often you’re the problem so, government, lessen the tax burden and on our families and get out of the way and let the private sector and our families grow and thrive and prosper. An increased tax formula that Barack Obama is proposing in addition to nearly a trillion dollars in new spending that he’s proposing is the backwards way of trying to grow our economy.

Biden snippet: So you’re going to have to place, replace, a $12,000 plan with a $5,000 check you just give to the insurance company. I call that the “Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere.”

[Then Ifill meanders to let that punch line sink in.]

IFILL: Thank you, Senator.

Now, I want to get, to try to get you both to answer a question that neither of your principals quite answered when my colleague, Jim Lehrer, asked it last week, starting with you, Sen. Biden.

What promises, given the events of the week, the bailout plan, all of this, what promises have you and your campaigns made to the American people that you’re not going to be able to keep? [passes to Biden BTW]

BIDEN: Well, the one thing we might have to slow down is a commitment we made to double foreign assistance. We’ll probably have to slow that down.

[Smacked his own candidate. Then turns back to class warfare.]

Biden’s close on this moment:
“ ... but one of which is the $100 billion tax dodge that, in fact, allows people to take their post office box off-shore, avoid taxes. I call that unpatriotic. I call that unpatriotic.”

Biden snippet: But here’s the deal. Barack Obama pointed out two years ago that there was a subprime mortgage crisis and wrote to the secretary of Treasury. And he said, “You’d better get on the stick here. You’d better look at it.”

Palin snippet:

We’re circulating about $700 billion a year into foreign countries, some who do not like America — they certainly don’t have our best interests at heart — instead of those dollars circulating here, creating tens of thousands of jobs and allowing domestic supplies of energy to be tapped into and start flowing into these very, very hungry markets.

Energy independence is the key to this nation’s future, to our economic future, and to our national security. So when we talk about energy plans, it’s not just about who got a tax break and who didn’t.

[Biden jumps the shark]

If you don’t understand what the cause is, it’s virtually impossible to come up with a solution. We know what the cause is. The cause is manmade. That’s the cause. That’s why the polar icecap is melting. [rimshot]

[Even Ifill can’t take Biden at this point]

IFILL: Let me clear something up, Sen. McCain has said he supports caps on carbon emissions. Sen. Obama has said he supports clean coal technology, which I don’t believe you’ve always supported.

BIDEN: I have always supported it. That’s a fact. [rimshot]

Palin snippets: Barack Obama and Sen. Biden, you’ve said no to everything in trying to find a domestic solution to the energy crisis that we’re in. You even called drilling — safe, environmentally-friendly drilling offshore as raping the outer continental shelf. /
I was surprised to hear you mention that because you had said that there isn’t anything — such a thing as clean coal. And I think you said it in a rope line, too, at one of your rallies.

[Biden profundity snippet] Well, why did John vote 20 times? Maybe he’s for everything as long as it’s not helped forward by the government. Maybe he’s for everything if the free market takes care of it. I don’t know. But he voted 20 times against funding alternative energy sources.

[Letting homosexuals rape healthy lifestyle insurance rates]
IFILL: The next round of — pardon me, the next round of questions starts with you, Sen. Biden. Do you support, as they do in Alaska, granting same-sex benefits to couples?

BIDEN: Absolutely. Do I support granting same-sex benefits? Absolutely positively.

[Here Biden fails to know what the meaning of ‘marraige’ was when the Constitution was drafted]

Biden snippet: The fact of the matter is that under the Constitution we should be granted — same-sex couples should be able to have visitation rights in the hospitals, joint ownership of property, life insurance policies, et cetera. That’s only fair.

[’I don’t believe it’ snippet]

IFILL: Let’s try to avoid nuance, Senator. Do you support gay marriage?

BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage.

[Regarding Iraq]

PALIN: I am very thankful that we do have a good plan and the surge and the counterinsurgency strategy in Iraq that has proven to work, I am thankful that that is part of the plan implemented under a great American hero, Gen. Petraeus, and pushed hard by another great American, Sen. John McCain.

I know that the other ticket opposed this surge, in fact, even opposed funding for our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Barack Obama voted against funding troops there after promising that he would not do so.

And Sen. Biden, I respected you when you called him out on that. You said that his vote was political and you said it would cost lives. And Barack Obama at first said he would not do that. He turned around under political pressure and he voted against funding the troops. [snip]

Biden snippet: Number two, with regard to Barack Obama not quote funding the troops, John McCain voted the exact same way. John McCain voted against funding the troops because of an amendment he voted against had a timeline in it to draw down American troops.

PALIN: Your plan is a white flag of surrender in Iraq and that is not what our troops need to hear today, that’s for sure. And it’s not what our nation needs to be able to count on. You guys opposed the surge. The surge worked. Barack Obama still can’t admit the surge works.
[snip]

[Another Palin snippet] Now, you said regarding Sen. McCain’s military policies there, Sen. Biden, that you supported a lot of these things. In fact, you said in fact that you wanted to run, you’d be honored to run with him on the ticket. That’s an indication I think of some of the support that you had at least until you became the VP pick here. You also said that Barack Obama was not ready to be commander in chief. And I know again that you opposed the move he made to try to cut off funding for the troops and I respect you for that. I don’t know how you can defend that position now but I know that you know especially with your son in the National Guard and I have great respect for your family also and the honor that you show our military. Barack Obama though, another story there. Anyone I think who can cut off funding for the troops after promising not to is another story.

Biden snippet: John McCain was saying the Sunnis and Shias got along with each other without reading the history of the last 700 years. John McCain said there would be enough oil to pay for this. John McCain has been dead wrong.

PALIN: Both are extremely dangerous, of course. And as for who coined that central war on terror being in Iraq, it was the Gen. Petraeus and al Qaeda, both leaders there and it’s probably the only thing that they’re ever going to agree on, but that it was a central war on terror is in Iraq. You don’t have to believe me or John McCain on that. I would believe Petraeus and the leader of al Qaeda.
[snip]

BIDEN: Can I clarify this? This is simply not true about Barack Obama. He did not say sit down with Ahmadinejad. [rimshot]

Another Biden snippet: The last point I’ll make, John McCain said as recently as a couple of weeks ago he wouldn’t even sit down with the government of Spain, a NATO ally that has troops in Afghanistan with us now. I find that incredible.

[Suspicion of Biden snippet] Here’s what the president said when we said no. He insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, “Big mistake. Hamas will win. You’ll legitimize them.” What happened? Hamas won. When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, “Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”

[rimshot Biden snippet] And speaking of freedom being on the march, the only thing on the march is Iran. It’s closer to a bomb. Its proxies now have a major stake in Lebanon, as well as in the Gaza Strip with Hamas. [Obama: “Iran is a tiny country.”]
Palin snippet: Now, Barack Obama had said that all we’re doing in Afghanistan is air-raiding villages and killing civilians. And such a reckless, reckless comment and untrue comment, again, hurts our cause.

Biden snippet: The fact is that our commanding general in Afghanistan said today that a surge — the surge principles used in Iraq will not — well, let me say this again now — our commanding general in Afghanistan said the surge principle in Iraq will not work in Afghanistan, not Joe Biden, our commanding general in Afghanistan. He said we need more troops. [Uh, Joe, isn’t that a surge principle? Rimshot.]

PALIN: Oh, yeah, it’s so obvious I’m a Washington outsider. And someone just not used to the way you guys operate. Because here you voted for the war and now you oppose the war. You’re one who says, as so many politicians do, I was for it before I was against it or vice- versa. Americans are craving that straight talk and just want to know, hey, if you voted for it, tell us why you voted for it and it was a war resolution.

Biden snippet: The truth of the matter is, though, let’s go back to John McCain’s strategy. I never supported John McCain’s strategy on the war. [Rimshot]

Palin snippet: As we discuss ANWR there, at least we can agree to disagree on that one. I will keep pushing him on ANWR.


12 posted on 10/03/2008 7:08:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fannie + Freddie = Democrat Cronies [Dodd and Obama -- the LegisLOOTers])
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To: null and void; ovrtaxt; TigersEye; MeekOneGOP; floriduh voter; Sue Perkick; metmom; tpanther; ...

Choice quotes along with a few of my remarks [and Biden rimshots]. Warning, it’s not a short summary of the debate:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2096402/posts?page=12#12


13 posted on 10/03/2008 7:12:46 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fannie + Freddie = Democrat Cronies [Dodd and Obama -- the LegisLOOTers])
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To: All

Biden’s 14 Lies

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2096603/posts


14 posted on 10/03/2008 7:17:59 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fannie + Freddie = Democrat Cronies [Dodd and Obama -- the LegisLOOTers])
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To: Christian4Bush
This is great! I'm listening to my recording of the debate right now.

Biden is BORING.

He is only able to keep within the time frame by talking twice as fast as usual.

15 posted on 10/03/2008 7:25:32 AM PDT by syriacus (At the intersection of Congress and Fannie Mae .... you will find the DEMron Scandal.)
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To: Christian4Bush
Biden: “Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.”

First, Article one is the LEGISLATIVE branch not the executive. Everybody should understand that. Furthermore the role of the Vice President is mentioned in BOTH Article I (the Legislative) and Article II (Executive).

So much for Biden the Constitutional scholar.

What a tool.

16 posted on 10/03/2008 7:29:17 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: Christian4Bush
Look, the people in my neighborhood, they get it. They get it. They know they've been getting the short end of the stick.

Have you seen this guys "neighborhood". Geesh...25-50 acre lots with multiple homes for family members...give me a break!

Of course he caught himself in the next sentence and said "So walk with me in my neighborhood, go back to my old neighborhood in Claymont, an old steel town or go up to Scranton with me."

17 posted on 10/03/2008 8:43:24 AM PDT by Shadraq
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

About the gas station comments...that guy Joey can’t fill up his tank because idiots like Biden and Clinton said over ten years ago drilling in ANWR would not provide relief for ten years.

If Joey voted for Biden, and hypocrats in general, Joey has NO ONE to blame but his stupid self!


18 posted on 10/03/2008 9:27:48 AM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Christian4Bush
In the transcript Biden says:
But let's get straight who has been right and wrong.... I was saying...- this war would take a decade and not a day, not a week and not six months, we would not be out of there quickly.
But...

On a YouTube video of Charlie Rose's show: January 27, 2003 at 24:00,

  1. Biden said that he thought the war would be relatively short and
  2. Biden said that the biggest problem might be dealing with all the deserting Iraqi soldiers

19 posted on 10/03/2008 10:27:31 AM PDT by syriacus (At the intersection of Congress and Fannie Mae .... you will find the DEMron Scandal.)
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To: tpanther

Yep. Biden and BO are offering a thousand dollars of Exxon money, which will only raise the price that much more and give foreign gas stations an unfair edge. Drill, baby Drill! ANWR too!


20 posted on 10/03/2008 2:22:02 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fannie + Freddie = Democrat Cronies [Dodd and Obama -- the LegisLOOTers])
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