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Conservatives Viewed Bailout Plan as Last Straw
new york times ^ | 9/27/08 | CARL HULSE

Posted on 09/27/2008 8:42:05 AM PDT by mathprof

The seeds of the House Republican revolt over the financial industry bailout were sown in an e-mail message circulated Monday night as internal animosity built quickly over the Bush administration’s request for $700 billion to prevent an economic collapse.

In a message to members of the conservative Republican Study Committee, leaders of the bloc of more than 100 lawmakers solicited ideas, calling for a “free-market alternative to the Treasury Department’s proposal so that, regardless of how individual R.S.C. members vote on final passage, House conservatives have something to be for.”

As the week progressed, it became abundantly clear that one thing conservative Republicans were most certainly not for was the Treasury plan, prompting them to begin searching for an alternative to avoid the perception of strictly being naysayers.

By the end of Friday, at least a portion of their alternative seemed likely to be included in the broader proposal as a sweetener for Republicans, although closed-door negotiations continued into the evening on Friday, and the contours of the final package remained in limbo.

After years of acceding to the White House on a variety of initiatives despite deep misgivings, House Republicans found the administration’s latest proposal to be too much to swallow.

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They also complain that Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. has been too quick to bargain mainly with Democrats, led by the House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi of California, and Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, not only on this plan but on the stimulus proposal earlier this year, a subsequent housing bill and other economic measures.

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For example, in advance of the president’s speech Wednesday, Representative Thaddeus McCotter of Michigan, a member of the Republican leadership, sent out this statement expressing his pique: “Who’s giving the Republican response?”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; bush; congress; conservatives; govwatch; mccotter; paulson
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To: goldstategop
"The House Republicans under tremendous pressure to cave on conservatism just to get an agreement. All we can pray is they stand fast and look out for us!"

Last night McCain could have won the election, and possibly won the congress back for Republicans if he would have denounced the bailout, offered conservative solutions to the problem, and hung the 700 billion bailout around 0bama's, the democrat's, and Bush's neck. It would have been a stroke of brilliance, and would have been a rallying point for the voters and conservatives. It was a missed opportunity.

21 posted on 09/27/2008 8:55:26 AM PDT by KoRn (Barack Obama Must Be Stopped!!!)
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To: screaminsunshine
One alternative is —DON'T PAY INCOME TAXES—admitidly it a risky way of protesting however if enough folks do it the jails cannot hold us all. When the government agrees to allow citizen appointed accountants to monitor the budget and appropriation process then the tax dollars will start flowing again.

I can take criticism and this is just brainstorming. I am sure there are faults with this plan and I would be glad to hear them.

22 posted on 09/27/2008 8:56:18 AM PDT by ScareyFast63
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To: Moonman62
The GOP leadership forgot about conservatism and believed if they spent lots and lots of money, they would be rewarded for it. Well that turned out to be wrong. If its only going to be about power, you lose. This is the time the GOP needs to stand up for principle, not just with an eye to winning an election.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

23 posted on 09/27/2008 8:56:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: KoRn
McCain is not a movement conservative and no one expected him to be Ronald Reagan. He was never big on ideology. But its also clear he isn't the believer in Big Government that Bush has been.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

24 posted on 09/27/2008 8:58:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Bush may be in on the McCain stands strong on this...ultimate Rope-A-Dope!


25 posted on 09/27/2008 8:59:28 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: screaminsunshine

Barry Goldwater Jr called Pelosi, Franks and Dodd...Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest...LOL


26 posted on 09/27/2008 9:01:33 AM PDT by jilliane
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To: mathprof
A nice article in the nyt. I hope the House Republicans kill this thing.

I'm not sure that the House Republicans can kill it. The blackmailers in the White House and the Treasury have everyone convinced there will be blood in the streets if this plan isn't accepted. The best the GOP can do is take most of the horrendous things ($$$ for Acorn and La Raza) out of the final bill. That would be a pyrhic victory though. The Socialist have taken control of America.

27 posted on 09/27/2008 9:01:56 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: mad_as_he$$
I heard this morning that the Treasury and Fed have been working on this “plan” for over a year.

From where? This should get much more play while calling attention to Wall street contributions to Democrats - the party of the little guy.

28 posted on 09/27/2008 9:02:04 AM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: 4rcane
certainly the last straw. Enough is enough. No to bailout! Any Republicans who vote for it should be voted out. Search for capitalist ideas to solve the problem

Why are you blaming Republicans. They have no control of what is presented by the Democrats or have you forgot that the House and Senate is a RAT pack. The best the Republicans can do is attempt to get some sanity in the bill. If you want to vote out start with Frank and Dodd with jail time. Then go after the RATS. Not the Republicans.

29 posted on 09/27/2008 9:02:22 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: mathprof

The bailout is doomed to failure. It depends on housing prices coming back, which isn’t going to happen with the huge oversupply of homes on the market.


30 posted on 09/27/2008 9:05:12 AM PDT by umgud (In a crisis, dump gold, buy lead)
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To: frithguild
It was on Fox and it was from a guy I did not recognize. Sorry coffee deficiency at the time.
31 posted on 09/27/2008 9:05:51 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never mess with an old man, he will just kill you.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Lots of ways:
Go to your payroll department immediately and change your withholding deductions to 9—at 10 the emnployer is required by law to send a copy of your w-4 to the IRS-—and be very careful to take the additional money you get in your paycheck and set that money aside for when you actually file your taxes the next year. You might pay a small penalty for not paying enough withholding into the system, but you will make an immediate impact to the funds the Feds receive every week in withholding passed on from your employer to the IRS.
If every single worker shorted this money immediately, even at $20 or 30 or 50 dollars, this will hurt them and get someone’s attention.
The biggest problem you might have is to decide which bank it would be safe to put the money into, especially if you are a higher taxed person.


32 posted on 09/27/2008 9:06:38 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: umgud
The bailout is doomed to failure. It depends on housing prices coming back, which isn’t going to happen with the huge oversupply of homes on the market.

You make an excellent point!!! What happens if this package simply isn't enough to turn things around? Do they ask for more money? If so, where would that come from? You simply can't get blood out of a rock.

33 posted on 09/27/2008 9:07:17 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: Trust but Verify

I am extremely proud that Paul Ryan is my Congressman. He is one of the brightest spots in the Republican Party and in times like this, would have been a BRILLIANT pick for McCain’s VP.””
Maybe Ryan would make a good Sec Treasury??


34 posted on 09/27/2008 9:08:18 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Comparative Advantage

I agree that no taxpayer funds should be used. The free market should be allowed to work. If the Government gets involved at all, it’s role should be as the auctioneer of these bamkrupt companies and all the paper.

The Media is not telling the people how Obama is involved with the the bad mortgages. See below: Add Clinton and pals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0&eurl=http://newsbusters.org/


35 posted on 09/27/2008 9:09:46 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: mathprof

One should never trust a dog with your food nor Congress with your money.


36 posted on 09/27/2008 9:13:38 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: mathprof
Conservatives Viewed Bailout Plan as Last Straw incentive to finally grow a pair.
37 posted on 09/27/2008 9:14:57 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
One should never trust a Republican Administration about to leave office.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

38 posted on 09/27/2008 9:15:27 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ridesthemiles

Where can i get a form?


39 posted on 09/27/2008 9:15:55 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: ScareyFast63

I won’t if you won’t. But they take it out of my check.


40 posted on 09/27/2008 9:17:41 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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