Posted on 09/25/2008 9:32:10 PM PDT by dascallie
[This happens one day after the deadline to respond to the Phillip Berg lawsuit claiming Obama is ineligible to run for POTUS because of citizenship ineligibility (http://obamacrimes.com/)--Obama has not produced an authentic US birth certificate( we know the one posted is fraudulent with his name photoshopped over his indonesian half sister's name....the plot thickens. Read below...the post just published tonight, draw your own conclusions]
Obama Admits Dual Citizenship September 25, 2008 by texasdarlin Dual Citizenship Makes Obama Ineligible Under Article II By Judah Benjamin, Guest Author So, at long last, Senator Obama admits that he was born with Dual Citizenship:
From “Fight the Smears”
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Now nice Anti-Pumas, please admit that the Senator has been selling snake oil and you have been buying it. I said he was probably born with Dual Citizenship under the 1948 Act at the outset, and I wasn’t wrong. Likewise, I wasn’t wrong about the Kenyan Constitution and his Kenyan Citizenship. Don’t take any bets that I’m wrong about Indonesia. Or the US Constitution and what it means.
Please note that I, once again, state that I, personally, believe Obama was born in Hawaii and that it doesn’t affect my opinion on his Eligibility for the Office of POTUS at all. In my understanding Article II Requires that one be a “Natural Born Citizen”, and in terms of the Law as understood by the Framers, anyone with Dual Citizenship could not be “Natural Born”. It does not matter that they no longer hold that Citizenship, they fall into the same bracket as a “Naturalized Citizen” because they have/had Divided Allegiance. That is my view and I haven’t moved an inch on it.
However, the Kenyan Citizenship Issue may not be the main point here, WAS HE, OR WAS HE NOT, an INDONESIAN CITIZEN? The Senator isn’t saying, isn’t mentioning it, is trying to avoid producing any Paperwork at all. Why? If he is/was an Indonesian Citizen, too, the Senator’s entire narrative is a fiction and he should be ashamed of himself.
He’s lied about Kenya, at least by omission, for months/years, so why should I assume he isn’t lying about Indonesia? Note Kenyan Citizenship automatically lapses if it isn’t renewed at age 21, Indonesian Citizenship doesn’t. If he was an Indonesian Citizen he would have to actively repudiate that Citizenship. Did he? Has he? Because if he hasn’t, Senator Obama is Dual National Indonesian at this moment, subject to the Laws of BOTH Countries, equally.
That is true under US Law, Indonesian Law and International Law and until LAST YEAR Indonesia DID NOT Recognize Dual Citizenship and the USA did not Recognize that one could be a Dual US/Indonesian Citizen. It does not matter that the Senator was not Responsible for the change of Citizenship because he was a child when it happened. Governor Schwarzenegger was not Responsible for the fact that he was born in Austria, or that under Austrian Law he is not a US Citizen, or under the US Law and Rules he is not a Citizen of Austria.
Senator Obama needs to produce his Paperwork, all of it, not just a Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii, but all his other Paperwork too.
So, the Senator WAS a Dual National. That is now an admitted fact, admitted by his own Campaign and by Annenberg. The Senator is a Constitutional Lawyer which means that he knows, and has always known, that he is probably Ineligible to Hold the Office of POTUS, or that, at the very least, there is a strong Legal Argument that that is the case. In turn, that means that as he lied about his Kenyan and British Citizenships he is probably lying about his Indonesian Citizenship.
I do not suppose that it was ever his intention to give up his US Citizenship and it does not matter to me one bit. It doesn’t matter to Indonesia either. If Lolo Soetoro adopted him he ceased to be a US Citizen in the mid 1960s, BY INDONESIAN LAW. He also ceased to be a Kenyan Citizen, BY INDONESIAN LAW. By Kenyan and US Law he retained his Original Citizenships, until his 21st Birthday. By Indonesian Law he could have given up Indonesian Citizenship at age 18, but did he? If he didn’t he was, albeit accidentally, displaying a Legal Intention to void his US Citizenship, since he knew he could not Legally hold both Citizenships.
Please don’t tell me that the US doesn’t have to concern itself with the Laws of Indonesia because, in this case, the US does have to do so. By the way, under US Law of another time the Senator would not have been a US Citizen at all, and he knows that.
If a Naturalized Citizen cannot hold the Office of POTUS because they previously held another Citizenship it is egregious, so far as I am concerned, that a Dual Citizen/Former Dual Citizen should claim to have a Legal Right to do so. I refer the reader to my Articles on Dual Citizenship and ask you to read the quotes from Blackstone. [TD NOTE: I will be re-posting all of Judah's work shortly].
This new material at “Fight the Smears” displays arrogance, hubris and bad faith, in my opinion. It is the Senator’s reaction to Phillip Berg’s Law Suit, and, basically, it amounts to an open admission of mens rea. He is flaunting his bad faith and in so doing destroys his own case.
Thanks LucyT and Fred Nerks. This story has legs, obviously, but they’re tiny little short ones. :’)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2090836/posts?page=48#48
And he's the who says that we wear tin hats!
First comes, "Denial," then "Anger," then....
Where’s the pic of that “Not this s**t again” guy?
Lucy, thanks for the link in post 48, Fred did a good job of pulling it all together.
All, unanswered.
What neighbours? What TV Station? When?
Yes. Surprised me too.
Maybe, Judah Benjamin said it? Pissant, yes?
pssst....check this out:
#31 Wanna see a funny?
Factcheck is linking right back here.
http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
scroll down to the image of his birth announcement. That image is hotlinked to this blog - to an article I can’t seem to find now
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-admits-dual-citizenship/#comment-13528
...noticed it yesterday...can’t find it now, but it was there.
Fight The Smears [fightthesmears.com, my.barackobama.com] has changed their webpage on which it has the Obama COLB posted. Here's the new link:
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
Thry still label the image as "Obama's original birth certificate," but at the top, they've added a header with a close-up of the COLB's masthead, and the following text:
Smears claiming Barack Obama doesn’t have a birth certificate aren’t actually about that piece of paper — they’re about manipulating people into thinking Barack is not an American citizen.
So, how about a post that mentions this change, with a title like:
I forgot to mention that they have pulled all the link to their archived web pages. Any search on Google for Obama Birth Certificate will first come up as "Obama -Birth -Certificate" which deletes search words after the minus sign -- that is, unless you change your preferences to nolt let Google suggest search words.
Even if you do, you'll get hundreds of redirects to pages with the same title.
Better read the qualifications again.Not only does he have to be a natural born citizen,his parents have to be citizens of the U.S.
God I will be relieved if and when we just vote the sleeper out of our lives come Nov. 4th. I really can’t take much more of this treachery.
To make matters worse, I keep running into people here and there who don’t even realize his middle name is Hussein, and have no clue whatsoever as to who William Ayers is and his close collaboration with Hussein since Columbia University in the early ‘80’s, etc.
Please let us just defeat him at the ballot box, notwithstanding success/failure of Berg’s lawsuit.
Nonsense. The Constitution prescribes only three qualifications for the office:
Article II, Section 1: No person except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Not a single word about the parents. Obama meets all three.
I think that if anyone counters with, "That's NOT Obama’s official birth certificate," then they can say, "Of course it's not his original birth certificate, because it is an image. Only a paper COLB can be called an Offficial birth certificate."
We'll reply, "then why hasn't Obama showed the real thing to reporters?"
What do you think they'll say?
I’m not so sure.
Fine. What’s your documentation for additional qualifications?
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