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1 posted on 09/20/2008 2:29:14 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Hagel is an ass as usual.


2 posted on 09/20/2008 2:31:18 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Looking at the history and the positions taken by the man...I have little doubt that Obama would suggest something like this.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

3 posted on 09/20/2008 2:31:47 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Hagel is a Republican??? Who knew.


4 posted on 09/20/2008 2:32:55 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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And yet, the 0bama campaign’s initial denial essentially confirmed the allegation made by Iraq’s foreign minister. Go figure.


5 posted on 09/20/2008 2:33:08 PM PDT by KingSnorky
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ABC News quoting “Two (unnamed) officials of the Bush administration” is about as trustworthy as Chuck Gibson.

Let’s see which shoe drops next.


6 posted on 09/20/2008 2:35:15 PM PDT by Canedawg (Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains. - Winston Churchill)
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ABC works to undermine the McCain campaign. ABC knows Hagel is not a spokesman for Republicans.


9 posted on 09/20/2008 2:36:16 PM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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WHY DOESNT SOMEONE MAKE THE CONNECTION: Obama’s spokesHole has said that HE DID make the comment. Now this comes out. THERE IS A DEEPER mystery here and it’s getting no play.


10 posted on 09/20/2008 2:36:53 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I Love The Smell Of Schmidt Storm in the Morning...and Afternoon....and at Night!!!!!)
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GOP’s Hagel says Palin isn’t qualified - Sep 18, 2008

Chuck Hagel Takes On McCain, Repeatedly Praises Obama

Chuck Hagel: Obama-Biden good pair

Hagel Flirts with Obama Veepstakes

Obama is hoping to appoint cross-party figures to his cabinet such as Chuck Hagel

Republican Chuck Hagel Defends Obama on Foreign Policy

Obama considering Chuck Hagel as Defense Secretary, possible VP

Chuck Hagel (R): Tough words for McCain

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NO THANKS, I don’t believe a word Hagel says, period!


12 posted on 09/20/2008 2:37:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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ABC - Doing Rarama’s bidding. Having Hagel involved and backing Barama is quite a surprise. /s


13 posted on 09/20/2008 2:38:01 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; Jeff Head
I posted this on a thread from yesterday:

20 September 2008 21:36:18 GMT+02:00 · 58 of 58

I was away yesterday so I missed this article. Read it today on HotAir with comments by AllahPundit.

As I understand it there were two issues discussed: the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) which concerns military matters and is a no, no for a first period Senator, and the Strategic Framework Agreement (SFA), which may be within the remit of the Congress.

Taheri claimed that Obama had been discussing issues definitely within the framework of the SOFA. Obama's campaign dismissed that and claimed he had been discussing the SFA. Some of his advisors even have gone so far as to suggest that Taheri or Zebari (Iraqi FM) must have mixed up the SOFA and SFA.

But let's go to the interview with Obama posted on the same link:

This is what he says at ca 1:12- 1:45 in the video.

"I also insisted that now it is important for us to begin....eh....the process of withdrawing US troops...eh..making clear that we have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq; that...eh...any negotiations for a Status of Forces Agreement or Strategic Framework Agreement..eh...should be done..eeeeeh....in the open..eh..and with Congress's authorization."

Let me repeat: "...any negotiations for a STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT or STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT......"

NOW WHO IS IT THAT MIXED UP THOSE TWO AGREEMENTS?

Is it not possible that the totally inexperienced Sen Obama, devoid of his dear teleprompter, did mix up SOFA and SFA when talking to the Iraqis?

At least that is what he tells the journalists? Time for a McCain ad, and s...w the State Dept and the unnamned Bush officials.

PS: I noted the "ehhs" in the transcription not to make fun of Obama, but to show that he was actually trying to weigh every word he said. That makes it an even more surprising mistake.

15 posted on 09/20/2008 2:41:46 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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So Hagel (who supports Obama for president) and two unnamed official make it so?


16 posted on 09/20/2008 2:43:38 PM PDT by ilgipper
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I wouldn’t believe ABC News if they told me today is Saturday.


17 posted on 09/20/2008 2:44:08 PM PDT by webschooner (McWhatshisname/Palin 2008 !!)
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“If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas,” Scheunemann continued.

1. Looks like everybody missed Scheunemann's "if".
2. The Strategic Framework Agreement and Status of Forces Agreement are joined at the hip.
3.Obama's people are already on record, via their explanation, that he said it.
18 posted on 09/20/2008 2:44:35 PM PDT by stylin19a
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Hagel? LOL!!! He's a liar and a traitor. I'll believe them when they can quote U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker. So far, they haven't.

The original story holds. Obama tried to sell out the U.S Armed Forces for his own political gain.

19 posted on 09/20/2008 2:52:08 PM PDT by avacado
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They need to drag both Upchuck Hagel and 0bama before a grand jury and see if they both perjure themselves. There are enough people out there who heard exactly what they said especially since 0bama’s own people have agreed that what Zebari said was true.


22 posted on 09/20/2008 2:54:17 PM PDT by Waryone
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Bullshit. Hagel is just giving his hero a blowjob on this one.


24 posted on 09/20/2008 2:58:00 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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According to one person present at the meeting, Obama told al-Maliki that the American people wouldn’t understand why the Iraqi parliament would get to have a say on the Strategic Framework Agreement, but the U.S. Congress would not, especially since Bush is only months from leaving the White House, regardless of whether Obama or McCain succeeds him.

“...especially since Bush is only months from leaving...”

there is the proverbial nugget of truth in this BS story....AND the exact premise upon which o’mamba the snake hoped he could succeed with his act of subversion


25 posted on 09/20/2008 3:00:01 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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So now ABC is reporting we can’t trust the “reporting” done by the WaPo in addition to the WaPo saying McCain’s first mistake is trusting the reporting by the WaPo. So, I get the picture now. We can’t trust what the WaPo says... but it does get logically tricky when the WaPo says you can’t trust the WaPo. Are they lying now or lying then... or both.


26 posted on 09/20/2008 3:00:22 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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Hagel is the new Lincoln Chaffee. Time to start looking for a primary opponent.


27 posted on 09/20/2008 3:03:49 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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Jeez, Gibson’s interview and the criticism following it must have shaken the ABC in-the-tank-for-Obama establishment more than we thought. This and their Troopergate “exclusive” makes two stories where ABC is distorting and/or making conclusions from partial/incorrect information. Makes for good headlines, though.


28 posted on 09/20/2008 3:09:12 PM PDT by CedarDave (Gloom and doom Democrats cheer for financial despair, losing wars and hurricanes. That's leadership!)
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