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Stop Trading!: Financial Terrorism?
CNBC ^ | Tom Brennan - CNBC

Posted on 09/18/2008 8:20:51 PM PDT by balls

The damage being done to stocks through short selling, where Wall Street’s most legendary institutions are losing value at alarming rates, could be the work of financial terrorism.

Cramer’s been talking to the short sellers he knows, and that’s the theory they’ve been putting forward. His sources said that it’s doubtful that the market’s traditional short sellers are behind the negative action we’ve seen lately. So there is the possibility that someone else has been trying to wreak havoc in the markets rather than just profit from the problems of Goldman Sachs [GS 108.00 -6.50 (-5.68%) ], Morgan Stanley [MS 22.55 0.80 (+3.68%) ] and others.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banks; economy; govwatch; housingbubble; sabotage; shortselling; wallstreet; wot
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I've been thinking for a while that terrorism is behind the current market crisis.
1 posted on 09/18/2008 8:20:52 PM PDT by balls
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To: balls

Is this the kind of thing Soros could do?


2 posted on 09/18/2008 8:22:56 PM PDT by Humble Servant (SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!)
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To: balls

Obama backer Soros?


3 posted on 09/18/2008 8:23:10 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (No longer holding my nose to vote - McCain/Palin 2008!)
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To: balls

I think it could be terrorism.

Or - at least opportunistic terrorism, i.e., they already saw a problem, but decided to accentuate it.


4 posted on 09/18/2008 8:23:12 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama who?)
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To: balls

I think it could be terrorism.

Or - at least opportunistic terrorism, i.e., they already saw a problem, but decided to accentuate it.


5 posted on 09/18/2008 8:23:13 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama who?)
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To: balls

I was thinking the same (but more related to the election) and posted a thread on this yesterday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2084505/posts


6 posted on 09/18/2008 8:26:26 PM PDT by koraz
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To: balls
“Just bring back the old rules,” Cramer said. “They worked for a long time.”

Well, if true and they're not in it for profit, the old rules won't work either.

Ban short selling by foreigners?

7 posted on 09/18/2008 8:26:46 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: balls

Instead of dumping, move to under priced investments. Do people realize how cheap MSFT and other stocks are right now? Microsoft, for example, has more raw cash on hand than outstanding share value.. Remember the Jack Welch philosophy- when people panic, buy. When people are greedy, sell..


8 posted on 09/18/2008 8:29:04 PM PDT by mnehring (Maverick/Barracuda 2008)
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To: RockinRight

I sell short. I don’t like it but with volatility the way it is, my investors depend on it. We are up this month and this week as a result. We maintain a 50/50 long short position and use SPYDERS to fill in the void. We don’t speculate by driving down shorts on news. We short poorly performing stocks that are temporarily over valued. Greenspan said Sunday that short sellers are necessary in normal conditions to maintain a realistically priced market. The problem we have now, and why there are so many bubbles are that hedge fund managers are so desperate for a quick score so they can make their hurdles and get huge payouts that they are running from new idea to new idea and piling on. The guys driving down the financial stocks are the same ones who brought you $147 oil two months ago. It’s a need for performance and a lack of proprietary ideas.


9 posted on 09/18/2008 8:29:45 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: balls

The problem is not shorting, but ineffective enforcement of existing rules against naked shorting.

We should resist calls to put bandaids on the problem. The uptick rule qualifies as a bandaid.


10 posted on 09/18/2008 8:30:20 PM PDT by Tax Government (Elect Obama's Teleprompter)
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To: balls
It crossed my mind that Russia might have a hand in this since they closed their stock market down a couple of days ago...

...to protect themselves from a meltdown they knew was coming?

11 posted on 09/18/2008 8:30:40 PM PDT by what's up
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I would bet its the work of GEORGE SOROS.

It would not be the first time he has minipulted a country’s money system. He is cancer.


12 posted on 09/18/2008 8:31:16 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama --- "Jihad is the only true Muslim way")
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To: LibWhacker

How can foreigners be prevented from trading? Punishment after the fact won’t work for many reasons.


13 posted on 09/18/2008 8:32:25 PM PDT by balls (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate)
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Gee, I certainly hope the trail doesn’t lead back to our pals the Saudis.


14 posted on 09/18/2008 8:32:29 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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When fundamental financial principle's are no longer followed, but, rather, considered quaint and old fashioned. then we become vulnerable to exactly what is happening now.
15 posted on 09/18/2008 8:33:04 PM PDT by MCCRon58 (Freedom does not mean you are free from the consequences of your own freely made decisions.)
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To: balls

McCain is right that Chris Cox should go.

He seemed like a decent guy, but as head of the SEC he has been an incompetent.

He abolished the downtick rule for short trading at the worst possible time, and he has failed to punish those who are behind massive “naked shorting,” which is illegal.

Now he has apparently agreed to “temporarily” end all shorting. That will be a disaster.

As I said, I don’t have any idea WHY he has done all this, but he really needs to be replaced for his stupid handling of this crisis.


16 posted on 09/18/2008 8:33:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I would bet its the work of GEORGE SOROS.

It would not be the first time he has minipulted a country’s money system. He is cancer.


17 posted on 09/18/2008 8:34:57 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama --- "Jihad is the only true Muslim way")
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To: balls

Soros


18 posted on 09/18/2008 8:36:46 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: balls

Gee, I certainly hope the trail doesn’t lead back to our pals the Saudis.


19 posted on 09/18/2008 8:37:34 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: ncfool

The alarming thing of this is that even if is not the work of Soros, or anyone else who would like to take us out, it could have been! We need to look at this from a national securtity standpoint.


20 posted on 09/18/2008 8:38:09 PM PDT by balls (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate)
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