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False Ad Claims John McCain Not Pro-Life on Abortion
LifeNews.com ^
| September 17, 2008
| Steven Ertelt
Posted on 09/17/2008 2:45:44 PM PDT by julieee
Washington, DC -- A so-called Catholic group that supports Barack Obama is running a new television ad in battleground states claiming Sen. John McCain is not pro-life on abortion. The ad doesn't mention any abortion-related votes but claims McCain voted against supporting pregnant women and supports troops in Iraq.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; ad; ads; catholicvote; demlies; electionads; false; johnmccain; mccainpalin; religiousleft
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posted on
09/17/2008 2:45:44 PM PDT
by
julieee
To: julieee
NO REAL Catholic could support Obama......They may THINK they are Catholic, but they are not.
2
posted on
09/17/2008 2:48:40 PM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: julieee
So they claim that McCain isn’t really pro-life? So do they also claim that Obama is??
3
posted on
09/17/2008 2:49:36 PM PDT
by
TommyDale
(I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
To: julieee
Right, and Obama is.
/roll-eyes
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posted on
09/17/2008 2:49:49 PM PDT
by
Westbrook
(Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
To: julieee
Catholics United is about as Catholic as a wet t-shirt contest at a Bar Mitzvahs?
5
posted on
09/17/2008 2:51:19 PM PDT
by
IllumiNaughtyByNature
(OBAMA: He was a flop before he became a flipper.)
To: julieee
What’s his deal on baby stem cells again?
6
posted on
09/17/2008 2:52:02 PM PDT
by
Sybeck1
("Country First"....baffled which one though.......)
To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
If by wet t-shirt contest, you mean pig roast.
(I've heard about some pretty crazy Bar Mitzvahs ;-)
7
posted on
09/17/2008 2:52:39 PM PDT
by
thefrankbaum
(Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
To: thefrankbaum
violation of one of the ten commandments? Bearing false witness
8
posted on
09/17/2008 2:56:40 PM PDT
by
4rcane
To: julieee
9
posted on
09/17/2008 2:57:08 PM PDT
by
justkate
To: 4rcane
Was that directed at me or the original article?
10
posted on
09/17/2008 3:02:50 PM PDT
by
thefrankbaum
(Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
“a wet t-shirt contest at a Bar Mitzvahs”
pre-teen/early teen boys -— probably been done.
11
posted on
09/17/2008 3:07:12 PM PDT
by
MeanWestTexan
(Wish it was Palin/McCain)
To: julieee
John McCain is not pro-life.
Barack Hussein Obama is not pro-life.
A vote for either is a vote for continuation of the abortion holocaust.
12
posted on
09/17/2008 3:28:57 PM PDT
by
SecAmndmt
(Arm yourselves!)
To: julieee
Obama is Pro-Life! 100% voting record!
IF the life is on DEATH ROW.
13
posted on
09/17/2008 3:35:36 PM PDT
by
ApplegateRanch
(The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
To: Ann Archy
I agree with you about 99% of the time, Ann, but now I have to sorrowfully note that there are indeed Catholics who support Obama, AND they are still "real" Catholics.
Mind you, I think they're abysmally wrong in supporting Obama, and I disagree strongly with their arguments. But they don't automatically lose their identity as Catholics.
If I may quote something I wrote on a different thread:
This sounds to me like the "No True Scotsman" Fallacy: "Suppose I assert that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge. You counter this by pointing out that your friend Angus MacPherson of Aberdeen likes sugar with his porridge. I then say "Ah, yes, but no TRUE Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
OK, so no true prolife Catholics would be for Obama. But that does not advance us one inch in explaining the (to me, sorrowful) phenomenon I have in into in the past week: namely, a number of my (fellow Catholic) friends from the prolife movement whom I have known for more than 20 years, completely anti-abortion (and have paid their dues in work and sacrifice for it over the years) but are so anti-McCain that they are either going to sit out the election, or --- "if necessary to stop McCain" --- will vote for Obama?
My hand to God, this is truth, I know these people.
I think they're wrong, wrong, wrong, but here's their arguments:
- They believe McCain is not truly pro-life. He is in favor of embryonic stem cell research, and he's been distancing himself from prolife movement people and religious conservatives for years.
- They believe he picked up on Palin just so he could use her.
- They believe he would not do anything substantive to help pro-life, and could do endless harm with other policies.
- In addition to all that, they think he's a dangerous man because of the volatile world situation and his equally volatile temper: they think he's at risk of doing something erratic and dangerous in time of war.
- They know Obama is a strong supporter of abortion, BUT they think he is more likely to to do provide material support (e.g. healthcare plan, subsidizing adoptions, whatevsr) for young and poor women, thus preventing abortions without having to illegalize them.
- Bottom line, they think Obama will actually reduce the number of abortions, whereas McCain would do nothing on that score, plus McCain being far worse (in their view) than Obama on war/peace issues.
I am not defending this line of argument. Far from it. I am just laying it out so you can see that there are Catholic prolifers --- longtime, active, abortion-hating baby-loving prolifers ---who are for Obama.
For more elaboration, see Douglas Kmiec.
And --- I add this in a friendly manner --- don't bother arguing with me. I'm arguing with them.
14
posted on
09/17/2008 3:37:14 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." Mark Twain, 1866)
To: SecAmndmt
Get real. McCain was the first candidate in the ‘07-’08 cycle to come out for overturning Roe.
15
posted on
09/17/2008 3:52:26 PM PDT
by
Norman Bates
(Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Well....the BISHOPS have said a Catholic should NOT support people that PUSH ABORTION.....and Obama has PUSHED ABORTION by his VOTES.
Doug Kiemic is VERY wrong!
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posted on
09/17/2008 4:07:35 PM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: thefrankbaum
17
posted on
09/17/2008 4:08:11 PM PDT
by
4rcane
To: Mrs. Don-o
McCain has a 100% pro-life record.
18
posted on
09/17/2008 4:09:58 PM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: julieee
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posted on
09/17/2008 4:33:31 PM PDT
by
red irish
(Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
To: Ann Archy
I know. I wonder, seriously, about the mental stability of a pro-life person who supports Obama, who has promised us as his “first priority” the passage of FOCA — the “Freedom of Choice Act” -— the most draconian and coercive abortion legislation ever proposed in the United States.
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posted on
09/17/2008 4:47:43 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." Mark Twain, 1866)
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