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Texas High School Student Told Rosary Is 'Gang Symbol'
FOX News.com ^ | September 16, 2008

Posted on 09/16/2008 7:36:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

A Texas teen claims she is forbidden from wearing a rosary around her neck in school because the prayer beads are a gang symbol, MyFOXDFW.com reported.

Tabitha Ruiz was stopped by security guards at Seagoville High School in Dallas last week and told to take off the silver and ruby beaded rosary, a gift from her mother. On Monday, the same thing happened when she again came to the school wearing the beads.

"I went to school, walked through the metal detectors and they told me to take it off," the teen told MyFOXDFW.com. "I asked them why and they said because it's gang-related."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: catholic; education; gangs; moralabsolutes; publiceducation; publicschools
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To: Kaslin


If you look closely you can see taht this band of outlaws is wearing the identifying symbol around the waist.
21 posted on 09/16/2008 8:04:09 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("[Gov. Sarah Palin] is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger." -- Gloria Steinem)
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To: al_c

From what I understand, there are some Hispanic Catholics who do wear this, not meant as jewelry but per St Louis deMontfort. “true devotion to Mary.” In one of the apparitions, the Virgin Mary said to “pray the rosary often and even wearing it around our necks.”

It may have everything to do with this young lady’s intentions.


22 posted on 09/16/2008 8:10:01 AM PDT by mnehring (Maverick/Barracuda 2008)
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To: All
A rosary can absolutely be worn - Eastern and Southern European Catholics, as well as Latin American Catholics, wear them all the time. It was only in cultures where Catholics were a persecuted minority (UK, Ireland) that the wearing of the Rosary became taboo. Just because the Irish Catholic norms transferred to the US does not make them correct. If a rosary is worn reverently, then there is no issue.
23 posted on 09/16/2008 8:11:48 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: al_c

Ping to my post above. And also, what is your take on St. Christopher medals? Are they okay to hang in your car?


24 posted on 09/16/2008 8:16:12 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: MrChips

The only place a rosary should be on a body is around your hand when you are saying the rosary, otherwise it should be in box, or wherever you keep it


25 posted on 09/16/2008 8:18:06 AM PDT by Kaslin (Vote Democrat if you like high gas prices at the pump)
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To: Kaslin
Sorry, but a rosary should never be worn as a jewelry item

I can't read this thread (or think of some likely responses) without thinking of The Secret of the Rosary, which encourages the practice and gives accounts of miracles that occurred after someone placed a rosary around someone else's neck. (I am not "guaranteeing a miracle" in this post ;) or saying that miracles happen mechanically.)

At the same time, I agree that it shouldn't be worn as a "jewelry item"--any more than a cross or crucifix should be worn as a mere "jewelry item."

By the phrase "jewelry item," I mean that the wearer is devoted to the self rather than to God, wears the item simply to be fashionable, would wear a suspicious-looking pentagram the next day if it became fashionable, and would throw away the item because of persecution (or, horrors, uncoolness!).

Of course, I'm not saying that a cross or crucifix and a rosary will have equal meanings to all people at all times, so be careful. (In other words, while "what if some authorities banned crosses on the grounds that they're a gang sign?" is a good question, it's not simply the same rosary question in Cross Form.)

26 posted on 09/16/2008 8:23:27 AM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Borges
Monks and nuns wear rosaries as belts, not necklaces.

A rosary is meant as a devotional item, not a fashion accessory.

Wearing it to trick out your outfit is sacrilegious.

27 posted on 09/16/2008 8:27:26 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Kaslin

Gang members wear clothes, eat food, and breath air.
Are we suppose to go naked, starve, and hold our breath?


28 posted on 09/16/2008 8:34:04 AM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: Kaslin

(IS FR crashing again? I had to try like 4 times to get the comment window.)

I just emailed my Dominican friends, telling them they’d been busted. (For those who came in late, a rosary hanging from the belt is part of the Dominican habit.)


29 posted on 09/16/2008 8:34:33 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Kaslin

Yah! Dat be duh ting fo Jesus and His Gang of Twelve! And he momma! And he daddy. And he birdie.


30 posted on 09/16/2008 8:36:35 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: mnehrling

Mmmm. Communion wine.


31 posted on 09/16/2008 8:36:47 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: thefrankbaum
Ping to my post above. And also, what is your take on St. Christopher medals? Are they okay to hang in your car?

Interesting information. I was just going by what I have been taught over the years ... that a sacramental should be treated with respect and that wearing a rosary was not following those guidelines.

The St. Christopher medal? Not a sacramental ... merely a medal.

32 posted on 09/16/2008 8:36:48 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: wideawake
Monks and nuns wear rosaries as belts, not necklaces. A rosary is meant as a devotional item, not a fashion accessory.

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This is my understanding as well. Aren't they worn by the religious to keep them "at hand"?

33 posted on 09/16/2008 8:38:31 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kaslin

(IS FR crashing again? I had to try like 4 times to get the comment window.)

I just emailed my Dominican friends, telling them they’d been busted. (For those who came in late, a rosary hanging from the belt is part of the Dominican habit.)


34 posted on 09/16/2008 8:41:12 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Mmmm. Communion wine.

Funny story, completely off topic.. My wife was raised a good Baptist girl and had a commitment to never touch alcohol until she turned 21. While we where dating, a month before she turned 21, I took her to my church (Anglican) and God made her break her promise at communion. :->

At least she never believed the old Baptist mantra that wine in Jesus time was just grape juice.

35 posted on 09/16/2008 8:42:16 AM PDT by mnehring (Maverick/Barracuda 2008)
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To: Kaslin

That’s not the point. The point is, she would not be allowed to have a rosary with her at all, even if kept in a box most of the day. Prayer? Oh my God, not prayer!


36 posted on 09/16/2008 8:42:26 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Kaslin

That’s not the point. The point is, she would not be allowed to have a rosary with her at all, even if kept in a box most of the day. Prayer? Oh my God, not prayer!


37 posted on 09/16/2008 8:42:49 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: mnehrling

Does anyone know what kind of wine the Catholic church uses?


38 posted on 09/16/2008 8:51:19 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: al_c
I completely agree that sacramentals should be treated with respect; however, wearing one around your next is not, by itself, disrespectful. It depends on the internal disposition of the wearer. Gotta love the internet!

Regarding St. Christopher medals - I had always been taught that sacramentals are objects or actions set apart to bring us closer to God. I believe St. Christopher medals meet that criteria. I could very well be mistaken, although I was curious so I did a little digging - this and this seem to agree with me. Thoughts?

39 posted on 09/16/2008 8:55:14 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Red wine


40 posted on 09/16/2008 8:55:22 AM PDT by Kaslin (Vote Democrat if you like high gas prices at the pump)
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