Posted on 09/12/2008 11:29:13 PM PDT by NautiNurse
The more I look at those berms the more I think they are
old WWII era fire-walls around storage tanks,,,
Oil soaked ground makes sense too,,,
(No mud-pits in those days.)
NN’s post # 3537 :
“The debris field is rather large, and remarkably far inland.”
And what I see on your map at # 3560,make me think some of
those people may be in those lakes east of Smith Point,,,
High Island (vacation 52’ or 53’) :
I asked my Dad why it was called that,,,
“It’s an Island during Hurricanes.”...;0)
I’m so weary of Ike I’ve forgotten where we got the 24K not evacuating figure in the first place.
Does anybody remember who posited this number first?
Same here,,,Hard to keep up,,,
I’ve seen up to 95,000+ total,,,
4,000 to 30,000 on Bolivar alone,,,(shudder),,,
20,000+ on Galveston,,,
Just heard today that friends of friends stayed on the
West end of Galveston !(3),,,(shakin’ head),,,No Word,,,
I guess some folks on these threads don’t know how much
warning the people on Bolivar got and just how fast the
road out was flooded,,,Ferry shut-down,,,TRAPPED!!!...
The numbers of people who did not evacuate Galveston (20,000) and Freeport (2000) are in the summary at the top of the thread. Each appeared in at least two news reports.
Oddly enough, initially we viewed the "after" images, believing those vehicles were search and rescue. Imagine our surprise when those same vehicles were in the "before" shot. The image immediately to the left of the one in the animation has something that looks like a white helicopter and a boat at the shoreline, possibly SAR.
In the immediate aftermath, search and rescue has top priority over recovery of the deceased. As we approach a week since the storm, recovery efforts will begin in earnest. Due to the vast swath of Ike's path, both search and rescue/recovery are painfully long processes.
I know way too many folks who don’t carry flood insurance in my coastal area. I know a few people who don’t carry property insurance. You are correct, most of these folks are retired, on limited incomes with no mortgage. Some used to carry property insurance until it tripled a few years ago. They simply could not afford it anymore.
More first responders have become sick from food-borne or infectious disease caused by the lack of uniform sanitation...Galveston City Council meeting adjourned abruptly without the council extending Thomas' emergency management powers for seven more days. So, Thomas extended them herself.
City Council member Elizabeth Beeton brought up concerns that city workers and first responders were getting access to things like tetanus shots, check cashing privileges and other things no ordinary citizen could get.
Boomtown ~ Greg Brown
Here come the artists with their intense faces, with their need for money and quiet spaces. They leave New York, they leave L.A.. Here they are - who knows how long they'll stay - [chorus:] It's a Boomtown got another Boomtown and it'll boom just as long as boom has room. Here come the tourists with their blank stares, with their fanny packs - they are penny millionaires. Something interesting happened here long time ago. Now where people used to live their lives the restless come and go. [repeat chorus] Nice to meet you, nice to see you in a sheepskin coat made in Korea. Welcome to the new age, the new century. Welcome to a town with no real reason to be. [repeat chorus] The rich build sensitive houses and pass their staff around. For the rest of us, it's trailers on the outskirts of town. We carry them their coffee, wash their shiny cars, hear all about how lucky we are to be living in a ... [repeat chorus] The guy from California moves in and relaxes. The natives have to move - they cannot pay the taxes. Santa Fe has had it. Sedona has, too. Maybe you'll be lucky - maybe your town will be the new... [repeat chorus]
*Snip*
Owen said the Chevron Service Station at Highway 6 and FM 1092 had been boarded up prior to Hurricane Ikes arrival and was still unopened. When asked if he had really commandeered the station, Owen responded, I did. I basically told the owner they could open that station up or I would do it for them.
*Snip*
Sounds like a Captain Dan experience.
As long as your fishin for the right Master, grandson of Adam, may your catch be plentiful.
What price did the ststion owner get for the gas, I wonder?
Do you have the number of missing people reports filed? If we could compare that to the 20000, it might show a more accurate number. I realize that there were probably some loners but most people have family.
You would think that part of a disaster plan would be to provide immunizations to responders before a disaster.
Hi again.
Actually, your kids probably wouldn’t be allowed to work at a shelter anyway. We don’t allow anyone under 17, and all volunteers have to undergo background checks and be issued credentials daily.
Evacuees are of all sizes, colors, and character. Most are just victims, but some have victimized. Police do background checks, but sometimes aliases or a crack in the system lets a bad guy slip through. Rules are in place to keep the shelter a safe place and protect both evacuees and volunteers, but it really is no place for children.
A better option that might also be providing hurricane relief would be a food and clothing bank. I know that Impact church just north of downtown Houston runs one. I have no idea about their need for volunteers.
My own kids worked at our food bank when they were growing up — stocking food, helping load, etc. They learned first-hand that not everyone had life as easy as they did.
Bless you for raising yours right.
I read it’s the highest point on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.
Numbers run from 400 to “several thousand” when I searched
> Missing after Hurricane Ike < ,,,
I keep seeing that same artical “washed out to sea” and
“may never be found”/etc. ,,,
“Searchers baffeled by thousands unaccounted for.”
Bolivar Pen. has been searched twice,,,
Self correction on the lack of wreckage on Bolivar :
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html
(scroll down) Shows wreckage at Crystal Beach(10-15’ deep).
Gilchrist is wiped nearly clean...
I guess that’s where it gets it’s name...
The yellow house on Crystal beach isn’t even missing one shingle. The ridge vent is even 100% intact. It’s amazing the house survived so well. I wonder if that pile of debris that built up around it had anything to do with protecting it
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