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Hurricane Ike Live Thread IV
NOAA/NHC ^ | 14 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 11:29:13 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: jeffers

This is Crystal Beach...

It makes you wonder if there are any bodies in this mess.

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/ike_09_15/ike13.jpg

it is from this series of pictures
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html


2,841 posted on 09/15/2008 5:58:03 PM PDT by stlnative (HurraMcCain Palin will continue to build strength as it travels across the USA over the next 60 days)
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To: stlnative

“... hump in the highway like this?”

It’s a bridge. I think that’s Surfside. If I’m right, you go west off Galveston, pay the toll at San Luis, go way down to SS, turn right at 332 and there is that shot. (Usually it has less water on the road.)


2,842 posted on 09/15/2008 6:11:59 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: onemiddleamerican

I didn’t post the photo credited to me.

The photo Nauti posted IS NOT a hoax.

Those damage levels are CONFIRMED by numerous other aerial grid photos.

Manmade structures on the eastern reaches of Bolivar Peninsula, for the most part, no longer exist.

If you look at that house, you can see why it survived when others didn’t. Most were up on stilts. The stilts offer little resistance to surge and fare well. But when the surge reaches the main structure, it either floats off the stilts and then gets beat to death, or else get smashed off the stilts, end of story.

Another prime method of failure, is when the sand around and under the stilts gets washed away, with predictable results for the house resting on them.

That house has a full concrete slab at grade level around and over the stilts, no washing, no scouring, stilts remain structurally viable much longer than stilts without a slab to protect them.

I’ll bet $500 that they took one other critical step in the construction of that house too, because the slab costs big bucks, and this costs very little in comparison.

Most people depend mostly on gravity to hold structures down.

A very few go the extra step and bolt it down. Bolted structures resist upthrusts orders of magnitude better than gravity held structures.

Bolts are cheap. Forces strong enough to lift a house against gravity suck. Failure to bolt is a mystery to me.


2,843 posted on 09/15/2008 6:12:25 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: stlnative

Streaming Houston channel 13, reporter around Gilchrist says ‘nobody wants to talk about fatalities’.


2,844 posted on 09/15/2008 6:15:03 PM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: Xenalyte; humblegunner; Allegra; RikaStrom; Squantos; thackney

Our power went out Saturday morning at about 4:00am and just came back on at 8:00pm a few minutes ago!

Lots of work to catch up on.

Hopefully this ain’t a false alarm just to tease us!


2,845 posted on 09/15/2008 6:15:36 PM PDT by Eaker (Dutch expression "You can give a monkey a gold ring, but it stays an ugly thing." - EscapedDutch)
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To: stlnative

Yes, there are bodies in debris piles like that. Those are probably the only bodies that will be found, everything else was swept into the bay and predators will make short ork of them.

That said, there may be one body, thousands of bodies, or somewhere in between.

We don’t know yet, but I can promise you this. In a day or two, search dogs will have zero problems finding the dead.


2,846 posted on 09/15/2008 6:16:31 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Eaker

Welcome back! Thanks for checking in. A good number of FReepers got their power turned on today. Hooray!


2,847 posted on 09/15/2008 6:21:39 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: Eaker

Whoo Hoo ! The zombie looters didn;t get Eeeek ! Good Deal !

Glad ya got life back almost to normal !

NOW FIX THAT FENCE !

I am off for the nite !

Stay safe Buddy !


2,848 posted on 09/15/2008 6:24:11 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: af_vet_rr; All

Shouldn’t FEMA have coordinated with the other search and rescue entities befor the hurricane hit, and laid out zones of activity in advance? Granted that a disaster is like war, the plan does not stay the same once the battle begins, but it does help to have a plan. Is this administration totally unable to learn from its mistakes? If anyone knows that there was, in fact, a SAR plan I would be happy to hear about it.


2,849 posted on 09/15/2008 6:25:37 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: txflake
NOAA satellite photos, worth posting again. Bolivar is flattened, hard to say how they could estimate casualties there unless they knew how many were there before rising water cut them off well before Ike struck.
2,850 posted on 09/15/2008 6:28:26 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: stlnative

It’s probably a bridge that allows boats from the lake to get into the bay (Kemah/Seabrook area) or if it’s on Bolivar Penninsula then it allows boats to get from the bay to the gulf.


2,851 posted on 09/15/2008 6:31:37 PM PDT by texasredtop
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To: NautiNurse

I was just looking for your most recent post to thank you for all you have done though this ordeal and lo and behold here it is!

Thank you so much and we really missed this joint after we lost power. AC and water are cool but FR and all of our FRiends and friends here were more sorely missed.

Note, dogs define a “liberating experience” as having all of your fences blown down.

Now, where the heck is FEMA with my money!


2,852 posted on 09/15/2008 6:31:49 PM PDT by Eaker (Dutch expression "You can give a monkey a gold ring, but it stays an ugly thing." - EscapedDutch)
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To: gleeaikin

WHICH administration?

The RAT mayor of Galveston?


2,853 posted on 09/15/2008 6:32:30 PM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: stlnative

Looking closer, I think it’s the Kemah bridge. The blue bldg on the right is a Japanese restaurant.


2,854 posted on 09/15/2008 6:33:37 PM PDT by texasredtop
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To: LA Woman3

I suspect they wouldn’t be sending a mobile morgue now unless they saw a need for one, but hopefully I’m wearing my tinfoil too tight.


2,855 posted on 09/15/2008 6:34:31 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Squantos

Brother I was ready for the looters but the jerks didn’t show!

Now I have to prowl the yard and locate the claymores. Those bastards are harder to find than Easter eggs and can be surprising come spring planting!

Take care ole Buddy!


2,856 posted on 09/15/2008 6:39:10 PM PDT by Eaker (Dutch expression "You can give a monkey a gold ring, but it stays an ugly thing." - EscapedDutch)
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To: txflake

is it possible that the people who stayed on east side (Crystal Beach, Bolivar, etc) were washed over to the northwest side of Galveston Island?


2,857 posted on 09/15/2008 6:39:28 PM PDT by stlnative (HurraMcCain Palin will continue to build strength as it travels across the USA over the next 60 days)
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To: Eaker
Ha! Don't you ever tell anyone...but we missed you too!

Another FReeper had a more agonizing story. After getting electric restored, discovered his cable was out. After getting cable restored, found out FR was experiencing a blackout. Talk about trials and tribulations!

Great to have you back. {{{hugs}}}

2,858 posted on 09/15/2008 6:39:46 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: Enosh

You’re right, it’s Surfside, I read it in the caption in the other set of photos. Yes, it’s west of Galveston maybe 30 miles?


2,859 posted on 09/15/2008 6:43:14 PM PDT by texasredtop
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To: af_vet_rr

I’ve been gone all today. I’ve not read the thread, or much else. The following may be totally useless:

Yesterday, the Guard was very confident that they were doing a very solid “grid” search. They seemed to be working with FEMA, for sure. No idea of the others. It seems possible to me that though the game wardens interviewed were out of the loop, that they were unusual in being left out. So, this may have been a slip up, but not necessarily a big one.


2,860 posted on 09/15/2008 6:43:33 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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