Hurricane Ike Live Thread IV

NOAA/NHC ^ | 14 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Hey,Kiddo,,,;0)

We got off Easy here,,,

Sure it a mess down on the coast...

[jeffers]

I think you’re right about the uneasrthed protection strips.

Good sized slick west of High Island proper.

Wonder where that originated?

http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/ike/geo-C25884555.jpg

[texasredtop]

Did you get my earlier message about LaPorte? It’s on the previous page from this one.

[Xenalyte]

Okay, picture that you’re standing on the smoking patio of Nick’s, facing towards the knife fight.

To your left, there used to be two palm trees.

Now, there’s only one. The deceased one is in splinters; the remaining one looks great. Go figure.

But yeah, fortunately, Nick’s is fine!

[Uncle Ike]

Great to see ya, Count!!

Glad the damage was minimal (physical damage, that is — there’s no estimating or compensating the psychic damage of being FR deprived)

Maybe we should start clamoring for a FEMA Program to address this issue.....

[texasredtop]

texasredtop wrote:
***************MESSAGE FOR DREWSMUM*******************

September 15, 2008
Officials: Please do not return to La Porte
We received a recorded phone message from the city of La Porte, asking citizens to not attempt to return to the city. There are no shelters in the city.

If you do come back, City Manager Ron Bottoms said, please check your property and then leave the city. A dusk-to-dawn curfew remains in effect.

Residents who stayed through the hurricane are asked to turn off their main breaker boxes and to conserve water for sanitary purposes.

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From the Chronicle. Also, we have not been back over that way since yesterday. The Walmart is still closed. The Food Town on Center is trying to open today at 2:00 selling only dry goods. That is the first store opening around us that we know of.

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Here it is again in case you missed it. Be careful out there.

[Justa]

af_vet, do you live on Bolivar Pennisula? What's the deal with your skepticism? Have you seen the EPA photo of Gilchrist looking east? There's only one house standing all the way to High Point. I.e., it's wiped out. There's little of value left no way to sustain returning residents -just like the judge's order stated. If people are allowed on to what, go bonkers at their totalled property, they will require outside assistance, particularly if they get injured on debris, and there's lots of debris. And the main road isn't clear, or is covered with sand or is torn up so what if their cars start breaking down before even reaching the, the.... foundation of their house?

Imo they shouldn't let anyone in until the roads have been cleared and electricty restored. It'll take a lot longer for water and sewage to be restored considering all the severed pipes when the lots were levelled. It's not safe, it's not sanitary so it's not responsible. If people still want to return to get their belongings then what about protecting others' belongings from looting, etc.? If they can't support relief workers they can't allow people to stay there.

I dunno maybe some people have to see to let go or they lost loved ones or animals they think might still be there. Who knows, maybe in a few days they'll let them go in supervised during daytime with a Will Not Rescue waiver or something.

[SE Mom]

Good to see you Count:) Sure were some folks concerned about you!

[NautiNurse]

First of all, we weren't discussing 90% of parishes. In your rush to be snarky, you took a dialogue out of context and ignored the specific location discussed.

You are aware of this, right?

Yes, in answer to yo ur unrelated snotty question.

A material number of people made an intelligent assessment of their situation and decided to remain behind.

I presume your ethereal number does not include the 50,000 plucked from rooftops, pulled out of attics, and picked up from tiny land plots amid flood water who did not make intelligent decisions in the face of grave danger.

When you take things out of context to start an argument, your position would carry more water with tighter numbers than "material."

[Sally'sConcerns]

59 doesn’t go to Conroe, it goes to Livingston. 45 goes to Spring and then Conroe.

My son lives in Spring. He has no power but did manage to get out of Spring and get to the Livingston area where his Dad lives.

From reports I’ve gotten from my sister and my son, roads can be iffy. My sister lives in far SW Houston, lost power and is now in an RV park in Brookshire in her RV.

Have them call the TxDot to see what specific road conditions are. (Texas Department of Transportation).

Sorry I don’t have more info for you.

[texgal]

I had the same problem trying to get out yesterday to go to New Orleans. Ended going Hwy 3 to the Beltway, then to 225, then to 610 then I-10. It took about 3 hours to get out of Houston. Help is on the way. I saw hundreds of trucks from other power companies, tree trucks, salvation army trucks, FEMA trucks, ambulances, etc going towards Houston while I was headed out.

I know FReepers are some of the best informed and was wondering if someone can point me in the direction of getting assistance for my elderly uncle and my sister who lives with him. She is an amputee and he has heart problems. While they are in no immediate danger, they are unable to get out and stand in line for water, ice and MRE's. Their water is running out and they cannot cook due to all electric appliances. Is there a service out there that can assist those who are not able to get to the food distribution centers?

[DrewsMum]

Thank you. We have friends there with power we will stay with if we need to. We are heading back today though.

You’re the best!

[SomeCallMeTim]

Life is a gamble and we make the best with the information we have

Indeed... it is a gamble. The problem with this kind of storm is... by the time you KNOW you're screwed, there's very little you can do about it... except, try to survive.

Speaking of which... has anyone heard from jpsb? San Leon would have been a VERY bad place to have gambled. I just hope he ran....

Too bad about your ghost, I had lots more questions! :-)

[SomeCallMeTim]

Now... back home, to NO power.. and, worse yet, NO FR! :-(

[texasredtop]

Just be careful. Lots of debris in the roads. We went and stood in line about 10 minutes before they opened Food Town. Most there in the area said they either had power or just got it back an hour earlier so it’s coming around, slowly but surely.

There was a two mile line to get into the DP Stadium to park, then get out and get in another line to get ice, water, MREs. Two blocks down, they could go in and buy all the ice, water and non-perishable food they wanted. LOL $40,000 vehicles burning hours of gas idling to get free ice and water. What are they thinking?

[texasredtop]

Don’t you need to work some OT? LOL

[af_vet_rr]

What's the deal with your skepticism?

I'm not skeptical anymore - what we have been seeing on Channel 13 this afternoon confirmed quite a bit of what most of us guessed.

Imo they shouldn't let anyone in until the roads have been cleared and electricty restored. It'll take a lot longer for water and sewage to be restored considering all the severed pipes when the lots were levelled.

Some of those areas, it's pretty clear that there won't be any electricity or water or sewage service. They are finished as far as human habitation - the surge took away enough landmass that they are at sea level (if not below).

[Romulus]

Here is the context:

“The evacuation from New Orleans was a nightmare so people didn’t leave for Katrina.”

If EVERY ONE of the 50,000 rescues you mentioned came from New Orleans only, that would still mean that close to 90% of the population in NOLA either did evacuate or else never required assistance. If those rescues were spread across several parishes, it would only push the evacuation/self-rescue percentage for NOLA even higher. This is why I call it a myth that “people didn’t leave for Katrina” — even as I repeat the critical point that leaving is not the gold standard of prudence, as circumstances vary widely.

And kindly spare me the personal insults; I have not been rude to you.

[texasredtop]

texasx - check here:

http://apps.dot.state.tx.us/travel/road_conditions2.htm

I searched flooded and closed for US59 and nothing showed up. I don’t know if that is realiable or not but it’s the best I could find so far.

[texasredtop]

shd read “reliable”