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Hurricane Ike Live Thread IV
NOAA/NHC ^ | 14 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 11:29:13 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: rwfromkansas

I have to disagree with your assessment; Ike was the news last night, nothing else had a chance, right up until landfall it meandered along as a Cat 2 with 105mph winds until just before the first surge approached and then shot up to 110mph which suddenly took it from a weak 2 to a strong 2; the wreck got 30-60 seconds, Ike got almost nonstop dire predictions and, as I speak the hype goes on.

Right now they are reporting on T.V. that they have mounted the biggest search-and-rescue mission in history to find survivors among the estimated 20,000 who refused to leave under the evacuation order; are they looking for breathing bodies or cold ones?

Nobody has been reported missing at this time that I have been able to determine.

We’ve got to stop the hype.


1,341 posted on 09/13/2008 4:41:27 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Tell that to the dead


1,342 posted on 09/13/2008 4:42:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: rwfromkansas

All I remember about Katrina were all the stories about how many dead people there were in the Superdome.


1,343 posted on 09/13/2008 4:44:11 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: rwfromkansas

Concerning the 1,200+ 911 calls reported by the AP it seems that during emergency decaration periods a new telephony system has been in place there since 2006 so that any call to a government agency would be automatically routed through and treated as an emergency through the 911 network:

“Hurricane-Prone Galveston County, Texas Uses Avaya IP Call Center Network to Respond to Critical 911 Calls

Emergency Communication District links eight public safety organizations in a seamless, survivable network that can weather extraordinary conditions; Avaya public safety solutions to be featured at two leading industry events

For Immediate Release: 02-Aug-2006

BASKING RIDGE, N.J. – When Hurricane Katrina roared inland last year across the Gulf Coast, officials in Galveston County, Texas feared that government buildings housing local emergency response teams would be unable to survive the storm.

“For the first time we actually had to abandon some of our public safety sites out of a concern for our employees,” said Bobby Wright, executive director, Galveston County Emergency Communications District.

To prepare the county’s emergency response infrastructure to weather such extraordinary conditions in the future, the District is implementing a new survivable IP telephony solution from Avaya (NYSE:AV), a leading global provider of business communications software, systems and services.

A centralized Avaya communications network will replace eight standalone systems and link 911 call centers countywide – including those operated by the Galveston County Sheriff’s Department and the city police departments in Galveston, Texas City, La Marque, Hitchcock, Santa Fe, Dickinson and Kemah. Four centers have been added to the network to date, with the remaining sites expected to be up in early August.”


1,344 posted on 09/13/2008 4:46:58 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: shield

They should have listened to Dr. Frank or at least referenced him along with the NWS. The movement to the east saved Galvestion and Houston from the full storm surge. The lack of the additional 8 - 10’ surge made a huge difference.


1,345 posted on 09/13/2008 4:47:51 PM PDT by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: Amelia

I’m interested in the truth, not B.S.


1,346 posted on 09/13/2008 4:49:06 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: DrewsMum

I lost power at 3AM and power was back on at 4:20PM, in Katy, TX, far west Houston. There are huge crews working to bring infrastructure back up. Hopefully, La Porte is not far behind. I wish you the best...


1,347 posted on 09/13/2008 4:49:18 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: AFPhys

I’ve found the lack of information on deaths from the hurricane itself rather odd. It makes me suspicious.

The big problem is those MIA. Yeah, they can count those bodies that they find, but those who can’t be located? There’s no knowing.


1,348 posted on 09/13/2008 4:50:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rwfromkansas; Amelia

This will most likely still go down as a property loss with hopefully minimal life loss. The difference between this one and Katrina to some extent is that the water will recede in a couple of days and you’ll quickly know what you have. That wasn’t the case in Katrina nor would have been the case in the Port Arthur area had a large storm surge breeched the levee system there. Like NO once the water was in the only way out would be by pumps.

From High Island west to the Ferry at Galveston is a long penisular with a mile or so wide habitable space. Lots of beach cabins, some very expensive up on piers and associated small commercial establishments. To the north of the beach road would be marsh and mostly cattle grazing, etc.

Our local weather man said at High Island the storm surge was 14.25’. Thus the entire penisular westward should have been totally over topped with surge water. Most likely many structures will have been lost.


1,349 posted on 09/13/2008 4:51:53 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: AFPhys
If the dead washed out into the water, which I think is likely, they'll reappear in a macabre way in around 3 - 5 days.
1,350 posted on 09/13/2008 4:52:19 PM PDT by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Well, one of the big differences from Katrina (aside from the fact that it’s Texans that got hit and therefore we’ll be fixing our problems quickly instead of whining for two years that nobody has fixed them for us) is that unlike New Orleans, Houston and Galveston are built above sea level and aren’t bowls. The water is already draining out of the flooded areas.

Centerpoint Energy has deployed *600-700* crews in a frantic rush to get power back on, more are coming from other states - even so, it may take weeks to repower the area.


1,351 posted on 09/13/2008 4:53:02 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Old Professer

The media is always doing the last story and they’ll be doing Katrina for a long time to the exclusion of more serious stories, even though the storm they’re covering will bear no resemblance to that one.


1,352 posted on 09/13/2008 4:53:13 PM PDT by John W (Lord Barry heal the bitter ones)
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To: Justa

Dr. Frank knows his stuff and Thursday he was saying more east. He could easily analyze the data and see that. He even commented about the storm surge and thought NHC were off. I don’t know about NHC these days.


1,353 posted on 09/13/2008 4:53:16 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Old Professer

Ike deserved the dire predictions. It was a bad storm and people needed to get out of its way. If they hadn’t the death toll would certainly be higher than it is so far.

The fact that it didn’t hit as hard as expected is a blessing and due to the huge number of people praying for others safety.


1,354 posted on 09/13/2008 4:54:55 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: All

I would appreciate it if we all could get back to discussing the hurricane and its effects and stop attacking each other.

Thank you for your support.

I know many posts will be made after this one before having seen it, so I forgive that. Everyone has gotten tensed by the situation.

Again, thanks.

(Attacking the govt and agencies is always acceptable)
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1,355 posted on 09/13/2008 4:55:13 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Justa

At least one person is known to have washed away and is missing.

“The search is on for a 19-year-old man swept out to sea Friday while walking on a jetty near Corpus Christi. The U.S. Coast Guard says Michael Moxley was with three other people on North Padre Island when a 6- to 8-foot wave hit the jetty and knocked him off his feet. The wave was part of the storm surge caused by Hurricane Ike...”

Recently rescued people in Texas City have reported that several people that stayed had had to evacuate to the roof of their house when the waters rose; the waters continued to rise and many were washed away.


1,356 posted on 09/13/2008 4:55:47 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: AFPhys

And, the media.


1,357 posted on 09/13/2008 4:56:25 PM PDT by John W (Lord Barry heal the bitter ones)
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To: Justa
If the dead washed out into the water, which I think is likely, they'll reappear in a macabre way in around 3 - 5 days.

If the sharks don't get them first.

1,358 posted on 09/13/2008 4:57:02 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Spktyr
Recently rescued people in Texas City have reported that several people that stayed had had to evacuate to the roof of their house when the waters rose; the waters continued to rise and many were washed away.

I feel sick...

1,359 posted on 09/13/2008 4:58:57 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: shield
I lost power at 3AM and power was back on at 4:20PM, in Katy, TX, far west Houston.

I was watching the coverage on the networks last night, and every time they saw a "blueish flash" they thought mean a transformer had blown.

More likely, it was a power line in contact with a tree, or an adjacent power line.

You can fix that in a by replacing a fuse. A transformer takes a while to replace.

1,360 posted on 09/13/2008 4:59:33 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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