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1 posted on 09/11/2008 4:45:34 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: BibChr
His ego craves the offices, so he'd have something to write about in his next memoir. Her ego craves power, so she'd do it. The only question is whether Biden's ego would allow it.

I disagree with you here.

No way is Hillary going to want to jump in now.

Firstly, too many of her supporters HATE Obama and they'd have to also vote for him, in order to vote for her.

Secondly, if Hillary were VP and they pulled off a win in November, the Dem's would be in such bad shape by 2012, that Hillary would never, ever get a chance to run for President again (she'd be too old by the time the Dem's have another shot, given what a four-year, Obama-lead Presidency would do to this country).

Thirdly (and lastly), Obama would look like a huge pu**y if he changed his running mate right now. The only people who would not switch to McCain/Palin would be the one's who would never switch in the first place. And there's no way he's going to get 50% (or close) that way.

2 posted on 09/11/2008 4:51:40 AM PDT by library user
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I agree that the "Torricelli Option" is always on the table for Dems, but I am beginning to think that Hillary has no interest in being the secondo to a sinking ship. She is better poised to let Obama go down and be the party savior in '12. So who does he pick? Granholm? Pathetic. Plus the McCain ads write themselves.

On the religious front, I am pretty sure that the campaign doesn't want to go there, because of Jeremiah, the bullfrog.

Time will tell, of course, but I agree that this campaign appears to be doing a good job and I am willing to let them go with it (rather than calling me for my brilliant advice!)

3 posted on 09/11/2008 4:52:05 AM PDT by ajwharton
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but substantial [?]

No, not really. But whatever.

4 posted on 09/11/2008 4:54:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("McCain and Palin: The Normal People Revolution" ~ rrrod)
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COLORADO AND NEVADA
COLORADO AND NEVADA
COLORADO AND NEVADA


5 posted on 09/11/2008 4:56:05 AM PDT by tomymind
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To: BibChr
Your analysis is right on.

One question that needs to be asked is why Baraq Hussein Obama is running so hard against the VP candidate? Is it because he just doesn't measure up to McCain?

Expect the dims to get much deeper in the gutter - that's their habitat.

7 posted on 09/11/2008 5:09:53 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Just your average "Whitey" - bitterly clinging to my guns and religion.)
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Hi, Dan - good post. Ralph Peters had a column today that is along these lines - and made a really good connection that I hadn't thought of yet:

WHY OUR ELITES FEAR FAITH

Believers are mocked (if not too publicly at election time). Sen. Barack Obama's behind-closed-doors remark in San Francisco to the effect that worried blue-collar chumps cling to God and guns perfectly captured the left's worldview, equating faith and firearms as equal menaces to an enlightened society.

Then along came Palin to appall the establishment - a moose-hunting Christian with a working-class husband, the precise stereotype Obama had mocked. The media's attacks on her since her nomination have been the most unfair I've ever seen.

11 posted on 09/11/2008 5:29:50 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Somewhere, not sure where, I read where Biden said that Hillary was the better candidate. Wow!
17 posted on 09/11/2008 5:40:53 AM PDT by greeter70
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Second, Team McCain needs to ready further for attacks on Palin's religious faith.

Well hell yeah. Look at all the questions Obama's gotten and the flack he's taken over Wright? You think the Democrats are just going to roll over and leave Palin's church out of it? They're thinking payback.

18 posted on 09/11/2008 5:43:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Obama is going to throw Biden under the bus, and beg Hillary! to save him.

But Biden really isn't the problem. To date, he has only made 2 significant blunders: 1) Suggesting Gov. Palin's nomination will set women back 20 years. and 2) Asking the guy in the wheelchair to stand up and take a bow.

I just don't see Biden as the problem. Obama could have put out the Lipstick firestorm by apologizing profusely. He was to proud to do that, so I expect to see his numbers continue to fall.

25 posted on 09/11/2008 5:54:44 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Hi Sweetie!!!!! Are you Bitter???)
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To hear a Hillary supporter talking yesterday at the rally, Obama laughed at them when they suggested putting Hillary on the ticket as VP. Hillary has been treated with disrespect throughout this entire campaign by the Obama people and the news media. Even if they came back to beg Hillary to run it really wouldn't be in her interest. For one she would be VP and wouldn't have an active role in an Obama administration-no matter what was promised. If you were Hillary would you trust him? I believe she has her sights set on 2012. After all, she suppose to be campaigning for Obama but does anyone really knows where she's at or what she's saying?

Second Hillary supporters are not that dumb to see they were being used. As much as they love Hillary, Hillary would look diminished to go to Obama after such rejection. Everything the feminists stand for will be lost as Hillary will be seen by the nation playing second fiddle to a man-a man who public humiliated her. McCain will look that much more honorable. Those Hillary supporters who have switched for Palin will stay with Palin.

Finally, the country would see this as an indecisive ploy; one that would question the very decision making capabilities of Obama. If he can't pick the right running mate, how can he run the country? No matter how they try to spin this (Biden needs to drop out for his health???) it will launch a 1,000 TV commercials.

Just a king and pawns are left on the Obama's chessboard and McCain's queen is picking them off and closing in for the checkmate.

27 posted on 09/11/2008 5:59:17 AM PDT by HarleyD
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Actually I am really getting tired of hearing Sarah say the same thing over and over.

If McCain and Palin don’t start laying out the details for the Economy, energy and tax reform they will become the Empty suit candidates.

I am starved to hear more from them. She has the personality, the charm and gives a great speech give her something new to say. What are their views on education, tax reform, energy issues and the economy?


28 posted on 09/11/2008 5:59:56 AM PDT by ODDITHER
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Palin’ll be getting more and more of the anti-Christian attacks, that’s happening now and will only get worse. The idea that Obama dumps Biden for Hillary is, to be blunt, absurd.

Many, many on the left (and some on the right regrettably) have this notion that the Clintons are infallible, never-losing demonic entities. They just can’t come to terms with the fact that she LOST, and isn’t going to make an 11th our spectacular comeback this year.


30 posted on 09/11/2008 6:04:11 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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I have to say: I think FR is the only place where so many people are so sure that this can't happen.

All these people aren't so sure.

These people aren't so sure.

These people aren't so sure.

These people aren't so sure.

In-trade isn't so sure.

The Hillary Clinton Forum isn't so sure.

Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) isn't so sure.

I'm not so sure.

33 posted on 09/11/2008 6:50:14 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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so he'd have something to write about in his next memoir.

Yes. The Hussein memoir is like a Dickens serial.

Except for the quality of the writing.

34 posted on 09/11/2008 6:56:44 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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ping, fwiw


36 posted on 09/11/2008 7:10:05 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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Christian response team ping...


37 posted on 09/11/2008 7:32:40 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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Hillary will say no if asked to be VP.

Ever see that asinine commercial "It's my money and I want it now"? Substitute Presidency for money and that's how Hillary feels. If she takes VP to help Obama then she thinks its 2016 until she gets another shot instead of 2012 if she just lets Obama lose.

42 posted on 09/11/2008 7:59:29 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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Her ego craves power, so she’d do it.


No doubt she craves power.

But, I don’t think she’d do it at this stage as she’d like the top spot and to save Obama in the top spot pretty much eliminates her from it for at least 8 more years. I think she’d prefer to stay on the sidelines giving apparent support and hoping he loses. Thus in 4 years it could be her chance to gain the nomination. jmo


44 posted on 09/11/2008 8:07:44 AM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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For your interest.


52 posted on 09/11/2008 10:11:24 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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..... if Biden is off the ticket for any reason, ....

Biden's health is bad enough to provide a minimally plausible reason for him to "withdraw." BP (Before Palin), I would have considered this an outlandish thought. Now, I ain't so sure.

Also, how is that The Anointed One was not astute enough to realize that Joe Biden, a high-functioning alcoholic if there ever was one, is not taken seriously anywhere except Delaware, and there only by those who cannot read and write and have no TV? (Perhaps a DE majority?)

55 posted on 09/11/2008 12:24:50 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Drill. Double Refining Capacity. Make METHANOL from Coal, NG, Nuclear ..let's roll.)
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